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brooklynite

(94,511 posts)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:18 PM Mar 2014

Venezuela cuts ties with Panama, calling country a 'lackey' for the United States

Source: CNN

Venezuela's President severed diplomatic relations with Panama Wednesday, accusing the Central American nation of being a "lackey" for the United States in a conspiracy plot against his government.

"There are maneuvers by the U.S. government plotting with a lackey government that has a right-wing president who is leaving in the next few months, who is not worthy of his people, who has been working actively against Venezuela," President Nicolas Maduro said in televised remarks.

He accused Panama of pushing for regional organizations to intervene in Venezuela. As a result, Maduro said he was cutting off diplomatic and political ties and freezing trade relations with Panama's current government "in defense of the homeland's sovereignty."

Panamanian President Ricardo Martinelli said in a Twitter post that he was surprised by Venezuela's decision.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/05/world/americas/venezuela-panama-diplomatic-ties-suspended/



I've always preferred Flunkies myself; they're as useful at Lackeys, but they have fancier uniforms...
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Venezuela cuts ties with Panama, calling country a 'lackey' for the United States (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2014 OP
Panama is a lackey of the U.S. It's been bought and is owned. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #1
????? smokey775 Mar 2014 #7
Yeah well, its history is very interesting. U.S. property. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #15
What property do we own there now? smokey775 Mar 2014 #16
What I said was that it has a history of being wholly owned by the U.S. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #17
But that's not the case now, is it? smokey775 Mar 2014 #20
That's much like the right wing attitude toward blacks as a nation... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #22
It's been more 14 years since the revolution and things have only gotten worse, smokey775 Mar 2014 #23
If it had, and if it had elected a democratically-elected govt UNFRIENDLY to having the U.S. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #28
IOW, all you have is "it's the fault of the US"? smokey775 Mar 2014 #29
"Cria fama y echate a dormir" Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #30
+1 laurent Apr 2014 #37
Our noble and blameless country would never work with RW Governments in Latin America! Zorra Mar 2014 #18
Never! The U.S. would never dedicate millions and train dictators to crush Latin America! Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #19
Because every thing that goes wrong in latin america is the US's fault. smokey775 Mar 2014 #21
Well, it's not really our fault; we were just doing our job, workin' for da man. Zorra Mar 2014 #31
Fault? Huh? Its all going right ... Mika Mar 2014 #32
. jakeXT Mar 2014 #2
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Mar 2014 #3
Hee. Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #4
childish move. Mad Maduro is putting any country that offends his delicate sensibilities geek tragedy Mar 2014 #5
You might find this thread interesting: Laelth Mar 2014 #8
I did find it interesting. Venezuela is definitely a more complex situation geek tragedy Mar 2014 #11
Nice post. Laelth Mar 2014 #13
I guess it's Panama's turn to take the blame for the royal fuck ups of Maduro. smokey775 Mar 2014 #6
You might find this thread interesting: Laelth Mar 2014 #9
I commend the Govt. for arresting those that shot the protesters, smokey775 Mar 2014 #10
As long as we, in the United States, are willing to accept our share of the responsibility ... Laelth Mar 2014 #12
In the words of Captain Barbosa..... smokey775 Mar 2014 #14
I'm sure that will stop the 10's of thousands of students protesting in the streets snooper2 Mar 2014 #24
Maybe they'll schedule a referendum on joining Russia..... brooklynite Mar 2014 #25
It looks like it's petered out. You're 10s of thousands is now "scores." Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #34
Good for him. n/t bitchkitty Mar 2014 #26
Maduro doesn't seem like he is ready for prime time. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #27
Maduro is an ass. Pterodactyl Apr 2014 #33
At least Venz. will still have it great friends: Syria, Iran, Cuba, China & Zimbabwe EX500rider Apr 2014 #35
Give Panama back to Colombia, freaking rough riders! RedCloud Apr 2014 #36
 

smokey775

(228 posts)
16. What property do we own there now?
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:18 PM
Mar 2014

Certainly not the Canal or the military base the used to border the Canal.
Last I heard, the Chinese were moving in and making deals with the Panamanian govt.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
17. What I said was that it has a history of being wholly owned by the U.S.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:40 PM
Mar 2014

Tiny Panama, controlled by Americans, and with the Americans training (via the U.S.' School of the Americas) even Manuel Noriega, a dictator (isn't that the sort of leader the U.S. always does regime change in Latin countries with?), is still a tiny country, which has been pretty stomped by the U.S.

 

smokey775

(228 posts)
20. But that's not the case now, is it?
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:45 PM
Mar 2014

So for Maduro to say Panama is a lackey of the US is an out and out lie, right?
It would seem that Maduro is blaming everyone else for the poor conditions in Venezuela rather than himself and his corrupt govt.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
22. That's much like the right wing attitude toward blacks as a nation...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:49 PM
Mar 2014

You crush something till it has no self-will, then assume it's powerful and strong and can do anything within nanoseconds after you "liberate" it. mmhmm

 

smokey775

(228 posts)
23. It's been more 14 years since the revolution and things have only gotten worse,
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:58 PM
Mar 2014

how is that nanoseconds?

A country that sits on the worlds largest oil reserves should have by now, pulled itself up and have a thriving, robust economy, instead, there's 56% inflation, crime rate out of control, govt suppression of legitimate protests, which, by the way, are being joined by the poor, the poor that are supposed to be represented by the socialist govt in Venezuela.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
28. If it had, and if it had elected a democratically-elected govt UNFRIENDLY to having the U.S.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:04 PM
Mar 2014

manipulate it, we'd be seeing the same regime-change sh*t. Fact is, since The Monroe Doctrine, the U.S. has not extricated its control from Latin America, and it does so by making sure to keep its oligarchy in its back pocket. Not that oligarchy requires a hell of a lot convincing. If you're the 1% and are there by exploiting the rest (how else?), and the U.S. comes along and says, "We like what you're doing, let's be pals," it will not require much. In fact, the oligarchy in these countries often seek out the U.S. and collaborate with them in subverting any democratically-elected government which doesn't kow tow to the oligarchy, and doesn't bow to corporate control.

 

smokey775

(228 posts)
29. IOW, all you have is "it's the fault of the US"?
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:07 PM
Mar 2014

None of this is the fault of the Venezuelan Govt? It's all the fault of the US.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
30. "Cria fama y echate a dormir"
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:22 PM
Mar 2014

That's a saying in my country. It means: "Get yourself a nasty-ass reputation, and you may as well go to bed, because you're going to have a hell of a time changing it."

That's the U.S. They've spent so much money, so much time, so much effort doing regime-change of democratically-elected leaders, causing coups of leaders that are not pro-U.S. or not pro-corporate, financing dictators friendly to the U.S. and corporate entities, and LYING ABOUT IT, and playing poor innocent victim, that now, automatically, people go on red alert when a democratically-elected leader is ousted.

However, in this case, it's finally coming out that the protestors were nicely organized and financed by the U.S. and E.U.

So, cria fama y acuestate a dormir.

Until the U.S. stops its criminal activity, it will not be believed or trusted, and as seen by Ukraine, it shouldn't be believed or trusted.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
18. Our noble and blameless country would never work with RW Governments in Latin America!
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:41 PM
Mar 2014


But I could be wrong about this.

The right-wing governments in Mexico, Panama, Chile, and Colombia have closer relations with the U.S....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_America%E2%80%93United_States_relations


Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
19. Never! The U.S. would never dedicate millions and train dictators to crush Latin America!
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:43 PM
Mar 2014

How dare anyone even suggest that!

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
32. Fault? Huh? Its all going right ...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 06:55 PM
Mar 2014

... according to OTI, CIA, NED, IRI, USAID, etc, etc, dept of state plans.




 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. childish move. Mad Maduro is putting any country that offends his delicate sensibilities
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:32 PM
Mar 2014

on the "ignore list."

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. I did find it interesting. Venezuela is definitely a more complex situation
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:51 PM
Mar 2014

than one finds in either the US or Venezuelan media.

There's always a delicate line between advancing social justice vigorously against oligarchic interests and turning to authoritarianism wherein the resentments of the less privileged are exploited to keep the ruling party in power.

I think Chavez stayed on the good side of that line, and I think Maduro jumped over it with both feet.

The Chavistas have banked a good deal of support amongst the poor over the past decade. But, at some point, a government has to be judged on its ability to lift people out of poverty. if the middle class get declared the enemy of the poor, there's really no hope for progress

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
13. Nice post.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:55 PM
Mar 2014

So long as we remain open to new and different evidence and are willing to change our minds if our pre-conceived notions are proven to be false by said new information, then I think we're being good liberals and good people.

Kudos.

-Laelth

 

smokey775

(228 posts)
6. I guess it's Panama's turn to take the blame for the royal fuck ups of Maduro.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:37 PM
Mar 2014

I just wonder who'll be next, the Virgin Islands? No? Benghazi? Ukraine?
It's getting to where I can't keep up with this guy on who's to blame for the effed up conditions in his country.

 

smokey775

(228 posts)
10. I commend the Govt. for arresting those that shot the protesters,
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:50 PM
Mar 2014

but that still doesn't excuse Maduro govt. from the heavy handed tactics to try to suppress these legitimate protests about the conditions inside Venezuela and Maduro constantly blaming other countries for what he is responsible for.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
12. As long as we, in the United States, are willing to accept our share of the responsibility ...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:52 PM
Mar 2014

... then I don't disagree with you.

And the link I provided shows that we're partially responsible for, once again, fomenting a revolution in a sovereign state.

-Laelth

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
24. I'm sure that will stop the 10's of thousands of students protesting in the streets
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:13 PM
Mar 2014

Ol' Maduro is running out of boogie-men to blame...


Next he'll blame posters on DU

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
34. It looks like it's petered out. You're 10s of thousands is now "scores."
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 10:40 PM
Apr 2014
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2014/04/27/venezuela-unrest-continues-as-scores-march-against-government-ruling-limiting/

Venezuela Unrest Continues As Scores March Against Government Ruling Limiting Protests
Published April 27, 2014Fox News Latino

CARACAS, VENEZUELA (AP) – Scores of opponents of President Nicolas Maduro marched in Caracas on Saturday, vowing to remain on the streets in defiance of a high court ruling limiting protests.

Student organizers at the last minute decided against marching downtown to avoid a confrontation with security forces in the government-controlled district. Instead they concentrated in the wealthier, eastern neighborhoods that have been the hotbed of unrest since February.

Demonstrators carried signs on Saturday blasting a Supreme Court ruling this week that gives police the right to disperse protests that don't have a permit. Opponents say the ruling is the latest attempt by the socialist government to muzzle dissent amid widespread discontent with 57 percent inflation and record shortages.

Protests that the government blames for more than 40 deaths have lost some of their momentum in recent weeks in the face of a government crackdown and an attempt at dialogue by some members of the opposition.

<snip>

EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
35. At least Venz. will still have it great friends: Syria, Iran, Cuba, China & Zimbabwe
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:13 PM
Apr 2014

Awesome company there. I guess North Korea will be the next buddy.

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