Obama Will Seek Broad Expansion of Overtime Pay
Source: NY Times
WASHINGTON President Obama this week will seek to force American businesses to pay more overtime to millions of workers, the latest move by his administration to confront corporations that have had soaring profits even as wages have stagnated.
On Thursday, the president will direct the Labor Department to revamp its regulations to require overtime pay for several million additional fast-food managers, loan officers, computer technicians and others whom many businesses currently classify as executive or professional employees to avoid paying them overtime, according to White House officials briefed on the announcement.
Mr. Obamas decision to use his executive authority to change the nations overtime rules is likely to be seen as a challenge to Republicans in Congress, who have already blocked most of the presidents economic agenda and have said they intend to fight his proposal to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10 per hour from $7.25.
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Since the mid-1980s, corporate profits have soared, reaching a post-World War II record as a share of economic output. The profits of the companies in the Standard & Poors 500 have doubled since the recession ended in June 2009, but wages have stagnated for a vast majority of workers in the same period. Recently, workers wages fell close to an all-time low as a share of the economy.
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There's so much good information in this article, I wish I could post more than 4 paragraphs. Definitely worth a read.
AllyCat
(16,178 posts)If they push through something to make a certain class of workers more expensive, something will happen to adjust.
Really, we have been adjusted for the past 8 years, if not the last 30. We've been paid nothing extra and yet prices still soar. The American people need to say, "try me".
4dsc
(5,787 posts)The list of exempt employees is staggering for sure. I applaud this effort.
Always thought it was pretty ridiculous who was considered exempt and who wasn't.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Time +(1/2) rate for time spent working in excess of 8 hours in a day.
Time +(1/2) rate for hours spent working in excess of 40 hrs in a week.
2X rate of pay for hours spent working on the Seventh (and greater) consecutive day(s).
3X rate of pay for hours spent working on Federally recognized holidays.
This should be the standard for all persons not operating with a clearly defined, negotiated, and contracted salary. Exemptions will have to be made for public employees (Emergency and law enforcement workers), as we can best work out.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)Unless the clearly defined salary is above some standard, say $60,000 per year. I know all too well how employers take every possible advantage of workers, and I applaud President Obama's effort to fix these loopholes. I'm sure the right wing will fight this kicking and screaming, claiming it will cost jobs etc. etc.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Say above $100,000.00 (one hundred thousand dollars base pay).
I never was management so, I can only speculate. I did serve on several round table meetings (formal and informal) on the subject of union pay proposals (UFCW and UAW).
I am basing the above figure on years of factory work/informal conversations with salaried employees/evaluations of upper managements stratagems and techniques/the old threshold of the bottom of the middle class pay; otherwise known as pulled otta my butt.
LittleGirl
(8,282 posts)As an IT administrator managing a network with 17 thousand end users, I had to migrate email boxes to another server over the course of weekends and holidays. Because I was considered 'professional' status, I was exempt from overtime pay. My employer was owned abroad and international and they followed the law to the T. Which means that working on weekends and holidays was 'free' to them, the employers, but I ask you, what is the cost of giving up family time every week or over the winter break? I see this as a significant help for IT administrators that do this over and over until they burn out. It's wrong and it needs to stop and I hope that President Obama is remembered for his continuous display of empathy for us little guys.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)I hear that all the time when I mention that certain groups of workers ought to get paid more or treated better. "Well if they don't like where they're at they should find a different job". That's total bullshit, EVERY worker should be treated fairly.
LittleGirl
(8,282 posts)They totally suck too. Until it happens to them and then they cross over and agree with you. That's when I want to slap 'em.
durablend
(7,460 posts)Who insist that this is one other thing that will DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM us come November.
7962
(11,841 posts)I've never worked a place where OT wasnt as listed above anyway; but i know there are abuses out there.
Excellent news.
bkanderson76
(266 posts)This America sitting idly by in some cowering position, laying away in some dark corner, cautious in their ways as not to bring attention to themselves from the evil corporate monster. I believe it's a sorry state of affairs that this 'new age' American worker has let loose the customary grip held with his neighbors in their effort to stand united in the centuries-old cause to pursue the American Dream of economic independence.
As this president chooses to act in this matter, I applaud his concern.
But I must insist that its a damn shame to see the those of society clamoring over each other in the race for the BigMac....With some self-centered pursuit as they scramble to the nearest mall to buy useless fucking stuff that they don't fucking need with money they don't fucking have.
All the while happier than hell they broke 'The Union' because, well, them boys made too much fucking money anyway....Sorry Neighbor
So I say Thanks Mr. President....appreciate the gesture...but Screw 'Em....lemming
riqster
(13,986 posts)"If the changes to the overtime regulations are made, it will fall to the Labor Departments wage and hour administrator to put them into effect. That position has been vacant since Mr. Obama took office. David Weil, a professor at the Boston University School of Management, is the latest nominee for the post. He is awaiting confirmation."
Moosepoop
(1,920 posts)The Repubs will certainly stall or block his confirmation just to throw a wrench into the executive order. That's assuming that they wouldn't have anyway -- and given their track record, they probably were going to do so even before this, just to be the obstructionist dickheads that they are.
Dem4ever27
(49 posts)Those nasty repukes will try to scuttle it.
Kingofalldems
(38,451 posts)LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)He works in IT, as a database administrator. When we were raising kids I was virtually a single parent because of the amount of OT he had to put in, and still does.
jsr
(7,712 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)... and then they just bring in no bennie part timers on off-shifts to make up the slack.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)Let's see.... would I rather work weekends for free, or be home with my family while someone else gets paid to work weekends?
Myrina
(12,296 posts)... there goes your raise/bonus whatever because - of course - in the boss' mind, you and you alone are to blame for the company not meeting financial goals. Several years ago a company I was working at did 'employee analysis' for every position and role and ranked everyone in that position against each other ... those who never worked OT or didn't have massive output numbers were ranked the lowest and ... buh bye.
Personally I would LOVE it if the US switched to a 32-hour workweek = fulltime because I feel like we work ourselves to death in service of no one but the CEO, but my opinion is neither here nor there in the grand scheme of policy planning.
kcass1954
(1,819 posts)I try to skate in at just under 40. I have to work hard, and work fast to do that, and I'm always afraid I'll make a mistake. I'm exhausted when I get home every night.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)relieve your boss of the responsibility for paying you overtime. That is especially true if you are earning only slightly more than the likely minimum-wage employees that you supervise.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Companies have been getting away with that shit for too long. I know a few people in such situations. Some people they manage can make more than them per year while working less hours per year. It is a path to higher positions that pay a better salary, but it can take years to get there and then they are still stuck working well over 40 hours for crap compensation beyond their salary.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Such exhaustion of workers also leads to less participation in society, as the workers are not able do anything off the job. Even voting is affected. If you scarely know when you are coming or going, it's the bottom of your list unless you are thoroughly informed on who is screwing you. The way people live, they don't have enough time to think about it
The other thing is just ending the bullshitting about titles that make some workers think they are better from others. This is a way of unifying society. It respects the individual and their time, which when all is said and done, is all that our lives are, a succession of hours and days and so on. What we can achieve with decent conditions will bring us back to a more sane society
Unions used to perform this function, now Obama is doing it for the non-union workforce as well. I was in a union where we negotiated a contract that went even further on overtime than the federal laws covered. They'd been working people for several days in a row, night and day, because the work was an essential service.
The company didn't want to hire anyone, because the law had come down on them and said they had to hire a more diverse work group. Women, gays, latinos and blacks were to be added to jobs previously all held by white males. The company had a quota, and tried to hire over half the new workers they needed from the white male pool.
As they year went, down the societal totem pole they went: latino males, black males, white women and finally minority women. The old 'last hired and first fired' routine.
Gays were added per race and gender. Rules were posted barring any discrimination or harrassment against any group and forbidding a hostile work environment for anyone. It was a great place to work for a long time.
(((And please, from what I saw of how those quotas were fulfilled, still protecting the dominant group. Cry me a river if you don't like quotas. I heard so much of that at that time and it created Reagan Democrats. No one was allowed to stay in the job if they couldn't carry their load, Period.)))
But despite the shenanigans, they were forced to hire more people end the way they were abusing overtime. We didn't have a load of titles that meant a person worked off the clock and was supposed to be the boss's pet. It was all on the clock, no matter what job it was, clerical, accounting, computer work, drafting, construction, transportation, whatever. No fooling around.
Obama is standing up for workers against corporations, but we knew that, just as 22 million union members knew:
We know the Koch brothers will be bankrolling the GOP to combat this. The battle is on.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Congress ain't helping with creation of jobs
Corruption Inc
(1,568 posts)So if a person wants more and more poverty this $10.10 propaganda is good news to them.
penultimate
(1,110 posts)In much of the country you can get by on $10.10, but in others it is impossible. I did alright making $10/hr for a bit when I lived in Austin, TX (this was back in 2008 though) I don't think I would have been able to do that in Los Angeles or NYC area (I lived on Long Island too, so I know how expensive that whole area is)