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brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:43 PM Mar 2014

REPORT: China Has Satellite Images Of What May Be The Missing Plane

Source: Business INsider

Chinese officials may have satellite images of debris that could be from the Malaysia Airlines 777 jet that's been missing for five days.

From CNN Senior Producer Vaughn Sterling:

CNN BREAKING: China satellite images show 3 suspected floating objects sized 13x18, 14x19 and 24 x22 (units are meters)

— Vaughn Sterling (@vplus) March 12, 2014
These are the images CNN is showing, apparently of the three objects:




Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/reported-chinese-satellite-images-2014-3



Images are from the Chinese Space Agency: (website: www.sastind.gov.cn) their weblink is currently down.
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REPORT: China Has Satellite Images Of What May Be The Missing Plane (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2014 OP
Link? JimDandy Mar 2014 #1
CNN is saying that China wouldn't risk the embarrassment... countryjake Mar 2014 #2
Well, clearly two of the images are wrong. ;-) eggplant Mar 2014 #3
Even if the debris is not from flight 370 Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #4
They said that more than a half hour ago... countryjake Mar 2014 #9
+1 jsr Mar 2014 #5
Yeah, those Berlin Expat Mar 2014 #6
The story says they are in the S. China Sea, not too far off the flight path. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2014 #7
where are our satellites? hibbing Mar 2014 #8
To show our images would do two things. First it would confirm we have satellites over China, alfredo Mar 2014 #10
They can always photoshop the images and make them blurry cosmicone Mar 2014 #11
Google "International Charter on Space and Major Disasters" countryjake Mar 2014 #14
The third option is that the Chinese found it first. alfredo Mar 2014 #17
...^ that 840high Mar 2014 #18
China had already stated that they were "redeploying" their own... countryjake Mar 2014 #12
Those satellites are busy spying on us nt LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #13
DUzy alert. awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #21
Close to where the oil rig worker sighting of something burning and going down? csziggy Mar 2014 #15
What if there were survivors? ... Helen Borg Mar 2014 #16
I think the chance of survivors is pretty slim by now. olddad56 Mar 2014 #19
It's satellite data...analyzing images from satellites would be time-consuming... countryjake Mar 2014 #22
I wonder if that's some old house or boat. The pieces seem awfully large for a plane, and planes, jtuck004 Mar 2014 #20
some guy on CNN just said its not likely the plane since large parts like that would have sunk. DCBob Mar 2014 #23
At this point, I'm almost hoping it's not the plane... countryjake Mar 2014 #24
There are also life rafts and evacuation slides jakeXT Mar 2014 #25
Those items dont look big enough to be the size of the objects spotted. DCBob Mar 2014 #26
Depending on its shape, metal floats just fine Recursion Mar 2014 #28
I hope they find the plane soon to give closure to the families davidpdx Mar 2014 #27
Now Malaysia says no debris or missing jet found at that location. countryjake Mar 2014 #29
China lost plane images 'a mistake' muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #30

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
2. CNN is saying that China wouldn't risk the embarrassment...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:54 PM
Mar 2014

of releasing faulty or questionable information.

The three large objects are "immense", floating. Comparable to the size of Flight 370.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
4. Even if the debris is not from flight 370
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:02 PM
Mar 2014

Why should they be embarrassed?

They saw debris and it could be from that plane...if it's not then it's not.

No harm in checking it out.

CNN is stupid.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
9. They said that more than a half hour ago...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:19 PM
Mar 2014

and they were all sitting there debating whether or not this breaking news should be taken seriously. I think that it was Richard Quest who mentioned the frustration that China had publicly expressed yesterday, about the Malaysian government's mishandling of the search, so they would be especially careful not to further confuse things by releasing faulty info.

Berlin Expat

(949 posts)
6. Yeah, those
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:03 PM
Mar 2014

sizes (13x18, 14x19 and 24 x22 meters) are pretty big objects, whatever they happen to be. That's 43x59, 46x62 and 79x72 feet, respectively.

Certainly worth investigating pronto.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
8. where are our satellites?
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:10 PM
Mar 2014

I find this story so strange. Where are all of our brazillon dollar spy satellites to find this plane? Or do we not want to reveal all the stuff we can see with them?

Peace

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
10. To show our images would do two things. First it would confirm we have satellites over China,
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:20 PM
Mar 2014

and next it would show how good they are. It's OK for others to suspect, but it isn't OK to confirm their suspicions. That's how they think.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
11. They can always photoshop the images and make them blurry
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:40 PM
Mar 2014

To not help when you can in searching the plane is criminal in my book.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
14. Google "International Charter on Space and Major Disasters"
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:58 PM
Mar 2014

There has to be an international consensus that everyone's satellite data needs to be made available.

The Chinese Meteorological org. requested that the charter be activated earlier this week.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
12. China had already stated that they were "redeploying" their own...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 05:40 PM
Mar 2014

weather satellites in order to aid in the search; I think I read that article on Sunday in the South China Morning Post.

There would need to be some sort of "treaty release" for us to stick into Malaysia's business of conducting this search for the missing Flight 370. During the previous hour on CNN, the guys who broke this news of the Chinese satellite images actually said that someone was probably negotiating that "treaty release" between China and Malaysia, as they spoke.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
22. It's satellite data...analyzing images from satellites would be time-consuming...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:19 PM
Mar 2014

to put it mildly, and if it was done manually, it's actually surprising that they've done it so quickly. The pics were recorded by a satellite on Sunday morning, they were not discovered by a human being on Sunday morning.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
20. I wonder if that's some old house or boat. The pieces seem awfully large for a plane, and planes,
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 06:36 PM
Mar 2014

generally speaking, don't float for a week. Or a day.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
23. some guy on CNN just said its not likely the plane since large parts like that would have sunk.
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:25 PM
Mar 2014

That seems to be a sensible comment... why would a large chunk of plane which is mostly metal float?

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
24. At this point, I'm almost hoping it's not the plane...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:35 PM
Mar 2014

I keep imagining that the pilot was able to pull a "Scully" landing, and there possibly were survivors out there, but it's been so many days now, not much chance that they'd still be alive. A "titanic" disaster.

I feel so badly for the families of this missing jet, mixing minuscule hopes with grief is agonizing.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
27. I hope they find the plane soon to give closure to the families
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:08 AM
Mar 2014

It is sad that they have had to wait for so long to find out where the plane went down.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
29. Now Malaysia says no debris or missing jet found at that location.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:37 AM
Mar 2014
Malaysia: No debris at spot shown on China images

http://www.komonews.com/news/national/Report-Chinese-site-may-show-777-plane-debris-images-249951611.html

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) - Malaysia's civil aviation chief says no signs of the missing Malaysian jetliner have been found at a location where Chinese satellite images have shown what might be plane debris.

Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman says planes searched the location Thursday. "There is nothing. We went there, there is nothing," he told reporters in Kuala Lumpur.

Vietnamese officials previously said the area had already been "searched thoroughly" in recent days.

The hunt for the Boeing 777 has been punctuated by false leads since it disappeared with 239 people aboard just hours after leaving Kuala Lumpur for Beijing early Saturday.

The plane was heading east over the South China Sea when it disappeared, but authorities believe it may have turned back and headed into the upper reaches of the Malacca Strait or beyond.



They appear to be going with the other theory that it continued flying, turning back toward Malaysia. This is turning into a war of questionable leads. The loved ones of the passengers from Flight 370 must be worse than heartbroken by now, this is wrenching and cruel.



muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
30. China lost plane images 'a mistake'
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:33 AM
Mar 2014
Chinese satellite images that were said to show debris from a missing Malaysian airliner were released by mistake, Malaysia's transport minister says.

Hishammuddin Hussein also denied a US report that the plane might have flown for hours after contact was lost with the Boeing 777.
...
Mr Hussein told reporters at Kuala Lumpur International Airport that the Chinese embassy in Kuala Lumpur had said Beijing's satellite images were released by mistake and "did not show any debris from MH370".
...
Mr Hussein also denied a report in the Wall Street Journal that the plane had sent engine data to the ground for more than four hours after it lost contact with air traffic control.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26559627
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