US to stand by Ukraine on Crimea annexation
Source: Al Jazeera
US says it will not recognise referendum on future of Ukraine region as it is in violation of international law.
President Barack Obama has said the US will stand by Ukraine in an effort to help it maintain territorial integrity and sovereignty.
After meeting with Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Ukraine's prime minister, at the White House on Wednesday, Obama said the west will be forced to apply a "cost" to Moscow if it does not change its course in Crimea.
Yatsenyuk said his country "will never surrender" to Russia and maintained his stance that Ukraine is ready for talks with Moscow. He added that Ukraine "is and will be part of the Western world".
Read more: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/03/us-stand-ukraine-crimea-annexation-201431219464218943.html
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William769
(55,144 posts)another_liberal
(8,821 posts)We also hand-picked its leadership. So now, as its creator, the very least we can do is to "stand by" the damn thing!
Igel
(35,274 posts)That was a whole cabinet meeting, just picking out the wallpaper and making sure it matched the color scheme on the new chairs.
Jeesh.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)That kind of thing, with the "wallpaper" and all, trumps the results of a democratic election every time!
Everyone knows that, right?
go west young man
(4,856 posts)you should fix it.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Maybe he can tell us why he doesn't seem so concerned about the territorial integrity of Serbia and is continuing the US recognition of Kosovo after what amounted to a UN sponsored theft of territory?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Also, ask the families who lost loved ones in these massacres:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_massacres
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Codeine
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He's very concerned about "territorial integrity"? Hmmmmm. . . .
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Crazy-town. People of Kosovo were threatened with genocide and wanted independence so they would not be genocided. UN-sponsored theft?
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arewenotdemo
(2,364 posts)Who would choose that apparently anonymous option instead of actually debating the point?
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)"If Russia is allowed to do this, which is to say move into a sovereign country under the guise of protecting ethnic Russians in Ukraine, it exposes Eastern Europe to some significant risk because there are ethnic enclaves all over Eastern Europe and the Balkans," General Martin Dempsey said in an interview to PBS television.
There are currently 400,000 Romanians living in Ukraine, Dempsey said, citing the example of Romania, which has been a member of NATO since 2004.
"We do have treaty obligations with our NATO allies. And I have assured them that, if that treaty obligation is triggered, we would respond," he said in the interview on Friday night.
In particular, the obligation Dempsey cited is Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, which states “that an armed attack against one or more [NATO members] shall be considered an attack against them all.” In such a case the alliance is entitled to mobilize in collective self defense. Although, Article 5 has only been invoked once in NATO’s history — in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/us-will-respond-if-russian-actions-trigger-nato-obligations-general-says/495876.html
Dem4ever27
(49 posts)He is pressuring the Russians without risking World War III.
AngryDem001
(684 posts)Why can't the US just stay out of the Ukraine/Russia clusterfuck?
We have more than enough problems right here at home.
Igel
(35,274 posts)During WWII, you may recall, we had a bit of a Great Depression going on. Nasty, that. Should have stayed home. Perhaps Russia could have knocked Hitler back even after Invasion of Britain. Perhaps not, and Russia would know be known as the Union of Soviet Siberian Republics, composed principally of territory east of the Urals.
Or perhaps so, and we'd have the Eurasian Union of Soviet States, stretching from Greenland to Kamchatka. If that had collapsed, who'd have rescued them? Rather like Eastern Europe after the collapse of communism with no bailout. I mean, you'd have Transdnistria writ large.
I'm sure there was some problem of some urgency to somebody during WWI. Perhaps the franchise for women? If not, certainly civil rights. Workers rights. And yet off we went.
By the same token the various supporters we had during the Revolutionary War and War of 1812 had better things to do than help the US. Not their problem, they had other fish to fry. Without their help, perhaps we'd be Commonwealth now, having gotten our independence as a result of WWII. Then again, perhaps we'd have been attacked much more aggressively and earlier in WWiI, since there was no need to wait until after Pearl Harbor. As part of the Empire, we'd have been up with with any other part of the Empire.
