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Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:30 PM

Retrial set for Fla. man in loud music killing

Source: Associated Press

Retrial set for Fla. man in loud music killing

| March 14, 2014 | Updated: March 14, 2014 3:16pm

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) A Florida man convicted of attempted murder in a confrontation over loud music won't be sentenced until after his retrial on a murder charge.

A Duval County judge made that decision Friday and also scheduled Michael Dunn's new trial for May 5.

Dunn had been scheduled this month to be sentenced for attempted murder and firing into a vehicle, but his attorney was concerned that statements Dunn makes at a sentencing hearing could be used against him in his second trial.

Jurors deadlocked last month on the murder charge against Dunn in the shooting of 17-year-old Jordan Davis outside a Jacksonville convenience store. Prosecutors said they would retry him.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Retrial-set-for-Fla-man-in-loud-music-killing-5318413.php

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Reply Retrial set for Fla. man in loud music killing (Original post)
Judi Lynn Mar 2014 OP
CVN-68 Mar 2014 #1
The Magistrate Mar 2014 #2
Skittles Mar 2014 #16
Little Star Mar 2014 #3
Lost_Count Mar 2014 #19
Little Star Mar 2014 #21
Lost_Count Mar 2014 #23
Little Star Mar 2014 #24
Lurks Often Mar 2014 #25
Little Star Mar 2014 #27
Lurks Often Mar 2014 #29
Paladin Mar 2014 #30
Lurks Often Mar 2014 #31
Paladin Mar 2014 #32
Lurks Often Mar 2014 #33
Paladin Mar 2014 #34
CincyDem Mar 2014 #26
Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #28
rocktivity Mar 2014 #4
Feral Child Mar 2014 #8
CVN-68 Mar 2014 #13
Feral Child Mar 2014 #20
sheshe2 Mar 2014 #5
JudyM Mar 2014 #6
sheshe2 Mar 2014 #7
africanadian Mar 2014 #9
rocktivity Mar 2014 #14
JudyM Mar 2014 #15
whopis01 Mar 2014 #17
onehandle Mar 2014 #10
gopiscrap Mar 2014 #12
Lost_Count Mar 2014 #22
geek tragedy Mar 2014 #11
olegramps Mar 2014 #18

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:34 PM

1. Hopefully this time he'll be convicted and he'll never see the light of freedom again.

 

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:34 PM

2. They Had Damned Well Better Get It Right This Time, Ma'am

It is important to have a guilty verdict on a murder charge here pour encourager les autres.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:04 PM

16. I wouldn't count on it

all it takes is some gun humping paranoid cowards on the jury and Florida is full of them

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:54 PM

3. I hope that SOB gets what he's got coming this time.

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Response to Little Star (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:18 AM

19. What more is there to get?

 

The guy is gonna die in prison. Short of the DP, what else is there?

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Response to Lost_Count (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:20 AM

21. Murder conviction.

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Response to Little Star (Reply #21)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:20 AM

23. To what end...?

 

Warm feelings? End result is exactly the same...

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Response to Lost_Count (Reply #23)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:22 AM

24. Ask the parents of dead child if you don't get it.

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Response to Little Star (Reply #24)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:41 AM

25. I both agree and disagree with you

 

I agree in that at the emotional level, the parents deserve the closure and satisfaction (if any) of a murder conviction.

Viewing it dispassionately, since the idiot was almost certainly going to spend the next 60 years behind bars, essentially a life sentence at his age, I don't wonder if the money the State of Florida is going to spend re-trying him couldn't be better spent elsewhere.

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #25)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:50 AM

27. There has been no justice for him or his family....

and they are due that no matter the cost, imho.

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Response to Little Star (Reply #27)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:06 AM

29. If there had been no justice for the family, the idiot would have been found not guilty,

 

What they got was incomplete justice, a jail sentence that essentially equals a life sentence, but not the murder conviction that they deserved.

Keep in mind the money used to re-try the idiot could have been used for soup kitchens or other things that could help the disadvantaged.

I am not objecting to him being re-tried, but he should have been found guilty the first time.

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #25)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:08 AM

30. "Viewing it dispassionately...."


You Gun Control/RKBA folks aren't fooling anybody. What you're after is avoidance of yet another trial which focuses world-wide attention on insane gun usage. I can understand your feeling that way; a little honesty would be refreshing.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #30)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:53 PM

31. And your bias is showing

 

The idiot belongs in jail and if the sentences he was already found guilty for are served consecutively, he's going to die in jail.

The question is spending $100,000 or more to get a murder conviction* a wise choice of taxpayer's money when the defendant is already going to spending the rest of his life in jail?


http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/oct/31/dotson-trial-cost-nearing-450k/
http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2012/07/25/news/19local_07-25-12.txt
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20130929/NEWS02/309290054/-1-1-million-David-Camm-trial-strapping-Floyd-County-budget?nclick_check=1
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-defense-murder-trial-cost-taxpayers-14/story?id=18837604

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #31)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:00 PM

32. I stand by my prior comments. (nt)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #32)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:08 PM

33. At least your honest about being close minded n/t

 

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #33)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:26 PM

34. Yeah, honesty has always been a big thing with me. (nt)

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Response to Lost_Count (Reply #23)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:46 AM

26. End results are different. Sends a message

Today, the common wisdom in Florida is that hunting season on black teens starts around April 7 early morning and ends the following year around April 6 late at night.

Find this guy guilty of murder and maybe, just maybe there will be one guy in Florida during the next hunting season who says to himself - "maybe I won't get off for this one". A guilty verdict won't stop this epidemic...but if it stops just one kid from getting blasted for breathing while black...it's a good investment for the state.

Just one. It's a good value. Ten...it's a great value. A hundred...that's wishful thinking without a continuing trend of guilty verdicts. But we can keep hoping.

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #26)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:52 AM

28. what you said

 

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:03 PM

4. They should go for first- or second-degree felony murder

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since he's already been convicted of the felony of firing into the car.

Felony Murder Rule Florida
If a person committing a predicate felony...(such as the) unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb...directly contributed to the death of the victim then the person will be charged with murder in the first degree - felony murder...The only two sentences available for that statute are life in prison and the death penalty...

The statute also punishes as second degree murder the killing of another human being during the commission of a felony that is imminently dangerous to human life...

Keep it simple, stupid.


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:35 PM

8. At least as

the lesser-included offense. That way jurors reluctant to convict on 1st Degree have a reasonable option. As you said, it's almost a sure conviction since the primary element, commission of a felony has already been decided.

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Response to Feral Child (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:30 PM

13. He already is going to prison for a very long time on the charges he's been convicted of.

 

The icing on the cake will be the conviction for the murder of the young man.

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Response to CVN-68 (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:18 AM

20. We agree.

The asshole wakes up each morning (if he sleeps at all) in fear and despair. I like that.

He'll spend the remainder of his miserable existence caged and alone.

I would like to see the murder conviction because it will be a public condemnation of his ludicrous "self-defense" plea. We need that, as a nation, so it will be recognized that we are a civilized folk that will not allow racial "hunting".


I fear the original "hung" jury was reluctant to condemn a man for hunting black kids, a wimpy jury-nullification at best.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:03 PM

5. I do hope he goes to jail for a very long time. nt

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:13 PM

6. ... with the guy in the next cell blasting music. nt

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Response to JudyM (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:26 PM

7. Bingo! nt

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Response to JudyM (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:42 PM

9. Specifically, rap

 

At bone-loosening volume.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:39 PM

14. DUzy!!!


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:42 PM

15. ...



that'd be my 1st

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:21 AM

17. That's going to happen regardless of the new trial. n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:02 PM

10. Just your average gun owner. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:28 PM

12. agreed

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Response to onehandle (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:20 AM

22. If that were true there would be 10s of millions of these cases...

 

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:06 PM

11. screen out the stupid ass racists this time nt

 

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:14 AM

18. I have wondered if the prosecutor is purposely overcharging.

Perhaps she knows that a first degree murder charge is difficult to prosecute in these cases, Zimmerman and Dunn, and they will get off. Every commentator that I have listened to have said that they were overcharged and should have been charged with second degree murder. It is understanding that even though they could not make prove the first degree she is going to go again with first degree. Perhaps I am being unfair, but her actions seem questionable.

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