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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:30 PM Mar 2014

Retrial set for Fla. man in loud music killing

Source: Associated Press

Retrial set for Fla. man in loud music killing

| March 14, 2014 | Updated: March 14, 2014 3:16pm

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) — A Florida man convicted of attempted murder in a confrontation over loud music won't be sentenced until after his retrial on a murder charge.

A Duval County judge made that decision Friday and also scheduled Michael Dunn's new trial for May 5.

Dunn had been scheduled this month to be sentenced for attempted murder and firing into a vehicle, but his attorney was concerned that statements Dunn makes at a sentencing hearing could be used against him in his second trial.

Jurors deadlocked last month on the murder charge against Dunn in the shooting of 17-year-old Jordan Davis outside a Jacksonville convenience store. Prosecutors said they would retry him.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Retrial-set-for-Fla-man-in-loud-music-killing-5318413.php

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Retrial set for Fla. man in loud music killing (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2014 OP
Hopefully this time he'll be convicted and he'll never see the light of freedom again. CVN-68 Mar 2014 #1
They Had Damned Well Better Get It Right This Time, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2014 #2
I wouldn't count on it Skittles Mar 2014 #16
I hope that SOB gets what he's got coming this time. Little Star Mar 2014 #3
What more is there to get? Lost_Count Mar 2014 #19
Murder conviction. Little Star Mar 2014 #21
To what end...? Lost_Count Mar 2014 #23
Ask the parents of dead child if you don't get it. Little Star Mar 2014 #24
I both agree and disagree with you Lurks Often Mar 2014 #25
There has been no justice for him or his family.... Little Star Mar 2014 #27
If there had been no justice for the family, the idiot would have been found not guilty, Lurks Often Mar 2014 #29
"Viewing it dispassionately...." Paladin Mar 2014 #30
And your bias is showing Lurks Often Mar 2014 #31
I stand by my prior comments. (nt) Paladin Mar 2014 #32
At least your honest about being close minded n/t Lurks Often Mar 2014 #33
Yeah, honesty has always been a big thing with me. (nt) Paladin Mar 2014 #34
End results are different. Sends a message CincyDem Mar 2014 #26
what you said Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #28
They should go for first- or second-degree felony murder rocktivity Mar 2014 #4
At least as Feral Child Mar 2014 #8
He already is going to prison for a very long time on the charges he's been convicted of. CVN-68 Mar 2014 #13
We agree. Feral Child Mar 2014 #20
I do hope he goes to jail for a very long time. nt sheshe2 Mar 2014 #5
... with the guy in the next cell blasting music. nt JudyM Mar 2014 #6
Bingo! nt sheshe2 Mar 2014 #7
Specifically, rap africanadian Mar 2014 #9
DUzy!!! rocktivity Mar 2014 #14
... JudyM Mar 2014 #15
That's going to happen regardless of the new trial. n/t whopis01 Mar 2014 #17
Just your average gun owner. nt onehandle Mar 2014 #10
agreed gopiscrap Mar 2014 #12
If that were true there would be 10s of millions of these cases... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #22
screen out the stupid ass racists this time nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #11
I have wondered if the prosecutor is purposely overcharging. olegramps Mar 2014 #18

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
2. They Had Damned Well Better Get It Right This Time, Ma'am
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:34 PM
Mar 2014

It is important to have a guilty verdict on a murder charge here pour encourager les autres.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
16. I wouldn't count on it
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:04 PM
Mar 2014

all it takes is some gun humping paranoid cowards on the jury and Florida is full of them

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
25. I both agree and disagree with you
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:41 AM
Mar 2014

I agree in that at the emotional level, the parents deserve the closure and satisfaction (if any) of a murder conviction.

Viewing it dispassionately, since the idiot was almost certainly going to spend the next 60 years behind bars, essentially a life sentence at his age, I don't wonder if the money the State of Florida is going to spend re-trying him couldn't be better spent elsewhere.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
29. If there had been no justice for the family, the idiot would have been found not guilty,
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:06 AM
Mar 2014

What they got was incomplete justice, a jail sentence that essentially equals a life sentence, but not the murder conviction that they deserved.

Keep in mind the money used to re-try the idiot could have been used for soup kitchens or other things that could help the disadvantaged.

I am not objecting to him being re-tried, but he should have been found guilty the first time.

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
30. "Viewing it dispassionately...."
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:08 AM
Mar 2014

You Gun Control/RKBA folks aren't fooling anybody. What you're after is avoidance of yet another trial which focuses world-wide attention on insane gun usage. I can understand your feeling that way; a little honesty would be refreshing.

CincyDem

(6,346 posts)
26. End results are different. Sends a message
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:46 AM
Mar 2014

Today, the common wisdom in Florida is that hunting season on black teens starts around April 7 early morning and ends the following year around April 6 late at night.

Find this guy guilty of murder and maybe, just maybe there will be one guy in Florida during the next hunting season who says to himself - "maybe I won't get off for this one". A guilty verdict won't stop this epidemic...but if it stops just one kid from getting blasted for breathing while black...it's a good investment for the state.

Just one. It's a good value. Ten...it's a great value. A hundred...that's wishful thinking without a continuing trend of guilty verdicts. But we can keep hoping.

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
4. They should go for first- or second-degree felony murder
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:03 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:29 PM - Edit history (1)

since he's already been convicted of the felony of firing into the car.

Felony Murder Rule Florida
If a person committing a predicate felony...(such as the) unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb...directly contributed to the death of the victim then the person will be charged with murder in the first degree - felony murder...The only two sentences available for that statute are life in prison and the death penalty...

The statute also punishes as second degree murder the killing of another human being during the commission of a felony that is imminently dangerous to human life...

Keep it simple, stupid.


rocktivity

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
8. At least as
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:35 PM
Mar 2014

the lesser-included offense. That way jurors reluctant to convict on 1st Degree have a reasonable option. As you said, it's almost a sure conviction since the primary element, commission of a felony has already been decided.

 

CVN-68

(97 posts)
13. He already is going to prison for a very long time on the charges he's been convicted of.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:30 PM
Mar 2014

The icing on the cake will be the conviction for the murder of the young man.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
20. We agree.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:18 AM
Mar 2014

The asshole wakes up each morning (if he sleeps at all) in fear and despair. I like that.

He'll spend the remainder of his miserable existence caged and alone.

I would like to see the murder conviction because it will be a public condemnation of his ludicrous "self-defense" plea. We need that, as a nation, so it will be recognized that we are a civilized folk that will not allow racial "hunting".


I fear the original "hung" jury was reluctant to condemn a man for hunting black kids, a wimpy jury-nullification at best.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
18. I have wondered if the prosecutor is purposely overcharging.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:14 AM
Mar 2014

Perhaps she knows that a first degree murder charge is difficult to prosecute in these cases, Zimmerman and Dunn, and they will get off. Every commentator that I have listened to have said that they were overcharged and should have been charged with second degree murder. It is understanding that even though they could not make prove the first degree she is going to go again with first degree. Perhaps I am being unfair, but her actions seem questionable.

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