Retrial set for Fla. man in loud music killing
Source: Associated Press
Retrial set for Fla. man in loud music killing
| March 14, 2014 | Updated: March 14, 2014 3:16pm
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) A Florida man convicted of attempted murder in a confrontation over loud music won't be sentenced until after his retrial on a murder charge.
A Duval County judge made that decision Friday and also scheduled Michael Dunn's new trial for May 5.
Dunn had been scheduled this month to be sentenced for attempted murder and firing into a vehicle, but his attorney was concerned that statements Dunn makes at a sentencing hearing could be used against him in his second trial.
Jurors deadlocked last month on the murder charge against Dunn in the shooting of 17-year-old Jordan Davis outside a Jacksonville convenience store. Prosecutors said they would retry him.
Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Retrial-set-for-Fla-man-in-loud-music-killing-5318413.php
CVN-68
(97 posts)The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)It is important to have a guilty verdict on a murder charge here pour encourager les autres.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)all it takes is some gun humping paranoid cowards on the jury and Florida is full of them
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Lost_Count
(555 posts)The guy is gonna die in prison. Short of the DP, what else is there?
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Lost_Count
(555 posts)Warm feelings? End result is exactly the same...
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)I agree in that at the emotional level, the parents deserve the closure and satisfaction (if any) of a murder conviction.
Viewing it dispassionately, since the idiot was almost certainly going to spend the next 60 years behind bars, essentially a life sentence at his age, I don't wonder if the money the State of Florida is going to spend re-trying him couldn't be better spent elsewhere.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)and they are due that no matter the cost, imho.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)What they got was incomplete justice, a jail sentence that essentially equals a life sentence, but not the murder conviction that they deserved.
Keep in mind the money used to re-try the idiot could have been used for soup kitchens or other things that could help the disadvantaged.
I am not objecting to him being re-tried, but he should have been found guilty the first time.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)You Gun Control/RKBA folks aren't fooling anybody. What you're after is avoidance of yet another trial which focuses world-wide attention on insane gun usage. I can understand your feeling that way; a little honesty would be refreshing.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)The idiot belongs in jail and if the sentences he was already found guilty for are served consecutively, he's going to die in jail.
The question is spending $100,000 or more to get a murder conviction* a wise choice of taxpayer's money when the defendant is already going to spending the rest of his life in jail?
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/oct/31/dotson-trial-cost-nearing-450k/
http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2012/07/25/news/19local_07-25-12.txt
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20130929/NEWS02/309290054/-1-1-million-David-Camm-trial-strapping-Floyd-County-budget?nclick_check=1
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jodi-arias-defense-murder-trial-cost-taxpayers-14/story?id=18837604
Paladin
(28,246 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)Paladin
(28,246 posts)CincyDem
(6,346 posts)Today, the common wisdom in Florida is that hunting season on black teens starts around April 7 early morning and ends the following year around April 6 late at night.
Find this guy guilty of murder and maybe, just maybe there will be one guy in Florida during the next hunting season who says to himself - "maybe I won't get off for this one". A guilty verdict won't stop this epidemic...but if it stops just one kid from getting blasted for breathing while black...it's a good investment for the state.
Just one. It's a good value. Ten...it's a great value. A hundred...that's wishful thinking without a continuing trend of guilty verdicts. But we can keep hoping.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)rocktivity
(44,573 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:29 PM - Edit history (1)
since he's already been convicted of the felony of firing into the car.
Felony Murder Rule Florida
If a person committing a predicate felony...(such as the) unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb...directly contributed to the death of the victim then the person will be charged with murder in the first degree - felony murder...The only two sentences available for that statute are life in prison and the death penalty...
The statute also punishes as second degree murder the killing of another human being during the commission of a felony that is imminently dangerous to human life...
Keep it simple, stupid.
rocktivity
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)the lesser-included offense. That way jurors reluctant to convict on 1st Degree have a reasonable option. As you said, it's almost a sure conviction since the primary element, commission of a felony has already been decided.
CVN-68
(97 posts)The icing on the cake will be the conviction for the murder of the young man.
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)The asshole wakes up each morning (if he sleeps at all) in fear and despair. I like that.
He'll spend the remainder of his miserable existence caged and alone.
I would like to see the murder conviction because it will be a public condemnation of his ludicrous "self-defense" plea. We need that, as a nation, so it will be recognized that we are a civilized folk that will not allow racial "hunting".
I fear the original "hung" jury was reluctant to condemn a man for hunting black kids, a wimpy jury-nullification at best.
sheshe2
(83,710 posts)JudyM
(29,225 posts)africanadian
(92 posts)At bone-loosening volume.
rocktivity
that'd be my 1st
whopis01
(3,504 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)gopiscrap
(23,733 posts)Lost_Count
(555 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)Perhaps she knows that a first degree murder charge is difficult to prosecute in these cases, Zimmerman and Dunn, and they will get off. Every commentator that I have listened to have said that they were overcharged and should have been charged with second degree murder. It is understanding that even though they could not make prove the first degree she is going to go again with first degree. Perhaps I am being unfair, but her actions seem questionable.