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Sgent

(5,857 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:33 PM Mar 2014

Louisiana sues MoveOn.org over Bobby Jindal billboard

Source: Nola.com

Louisiana is suing national left-leaning policy group MoveOn.org in federal court, saying it violated copyright law when it put up a billboard and commissioned video ads critical of Gov. Bobby Jindal that use the state's tourism logo and motto.

Republican Lt. Gov. Jay Dardenne has been locked in a pitched battle with the group for weeks, unsuccessfully calling for it to take down the billboard that is currently up on the I-10 coming into Baton Rouge from Port Allen.

"We have invested millions of dollars in identifying the Louisiana: Pick Your Passion brand with all that is good about Louisiana. No group should be allowed to use the brand for its own purposes, especially if it is for partisan political posturing," Dardenne said in a statement announcing the suit.

"MoveOn.org has every right to attack Gov. Jindal, the state's refusal to accept Medicaid or, for that matter, me personally. But they do not have the right to use our protected service mark, which is used solely for the purpose of promoting and marketing Louisiana. We own the mark and its use is under the direction of my office, not the Office of the Governor."

Read more: http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/03/moveon_louisiana_jindal_darden.html#incart_m-rpt-2

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Louisiana sues MoveOn.org over Bobby Jindal billboard (Original Post) Sgent Mar 2014 OP
Petty bullshit. GOPers are sick minded assholes. Iliyah Mar 2014 #1
A little more info: DonViejo Mar 2014 #2
Can GOPers EVER TELL THE TRUTH? Iliyah Mar 2014 #3
No it's against their immoral principles mdbl Mar 2014 #4
And if they did nobody would vote for them. Lasher Mar 2014 #9
^This.^ blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #10
No, but they can Connoct Bigger LIES in an attempt to Cover their Cha Mar 2014 #19
Free speech for me...but not for you! SoapBox Mar 2014 #5
Why doesn't he explain how damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #6
Cool! Publicity! Gore1FL Mar 2014 #7
Every time the GOP does this, they lose. Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #8
Jindal's attack dogs will lose and embarrassingly tomm2thumbs Mar 2014 #11
Opinion etc. is protected, however, there might be a case if a copyrighted photo was used groundloop Mar 2014 #15
Satire is "fair use" cosmicone Mar 2014 #16
And doubly (Triply?) so if JoeyT Mar 2014 #18
If the font and color scheme are iconic, there could be a problem BlueStreak Mar 2014 #27
I'm talking specifically about the use of a copyrighted photo groundloop Mar 2014 #25
Then the photographer should sue moveon.org TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #26
From the article's comments section: Lasher Mar 2014 #12
billoard pic... adirondacker Mar 2014 #13
Sorry, I just don't have an appetite to eat any of those big dead bugs in the picture. NBachers Mar 2014 #24
Louisiana wasted millions trying to create a 'brand' with a word? It's never going to be a state Sunlei Mar 2014 #14
Fair use is a great defense to these claims Gothmog Mar 2014 #17
It's the water. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #20
Jindal will lose. Just like Falwell lost against Hustler over the Campari ad parody. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #21
Jindal is a criminal poodle molester. onehandle Mar 2014 #22
Can't sue you ... you didn't say ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2014 #23
Reminds me of the Obama Hope poster lawsuit marshall Mar 2014 #28

Lasher

(27,553 posts)
9. And if they did nobody would vote for them.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:35 PM
Mar 2014

"Vote Republican so we can tank the economy again."

Gore1FL

(21,116 posts)
7. Cool! Publicity!
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:05 PM
Mar 2014

They'll get a lot more than they would have gotten if they would have just ridden it out.

Now everyone's looking.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
11. Jindal's attack dogs will lose and embarrassingly
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:55 PM
Mar 2014

Commentary, opinion and critique... and moreso parody, especially in the political arena, have much more breadth of protection than commercial speech.

I guess they don't teach them varmits in the Louisiana statehouse much learnin' these days.

And even in the commercial arena, there is a lot of room for expansion.... just ask Barbie and Monopoly who have been mocked and parodied to death and cannot do a thing about it.

Poor, poor Jindal. You'll never be a playah... and it is so pitiful to watch you try.

groundloop

(11,517 posts)
15. Opinion etc. is protected, however, there might be a case if a copyrighted photo was used
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:38 PM
Mar 2014

Copyright laws are pretty cut and dry when it comes to using copyrighted photos without permission. I'm guessing Move-On might have a fight on their hands about that.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
16. Satire is "fair use"
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:15 PM
Mar 2014

Their lawsuit doesn't stand a prayer's chance of winning, especially moveon.org is not profiting from a competing product.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
18. And doubly (Triply?) so if
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:24 PM
Mar 2014

it's something no reasonable person is likely to confuse with an official statement by the owner of the image. As the state tourism board is unlikely to put up a billboard that amounts to "Welcome to Louisiana. We elect fucking idiots.", their case is sunk.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
27. If the font and color scheme are iconic, there could be a problem
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:22 PM
Mar 2014

If, at first glance, it strongly resembles the billboards put up by the state, there could be a problem with that. I don't think the legal standard is that, after studying and thinking about it long an hard, a reasonable person would conclude something ain't quite right with that billboard. If the use of the service mark is found to intentionally confuse, they could lose that case.

But the point still stands that MoveOn will get a whole lot of free publicity in the process, so I am all for them leaving it up and putting Jindal on the defensive. The average person will understand the lack of health care a lot quicker than they will understand the intricacies of service mark law.

After all, Jindal could end the whole thing tomorrow by simply doing the right thing for his citizens. And in the process he would be adopting a no-brainer economic development program that is guaranteed to generate enough additional economic activity in Louisiana that the additional collection of taxes would be greater than any outlays LA would have to bear, even in the out years. Medicare is a freaking intelligence test. Anybody who refuses that program is a complete moron on purely economic grounds, even if they don't give a damn about the health of their citizens.

groundloop

(11,517 posts)
25. I'm talking specifically about the use of a copyrighted photo
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:35 PM
Mar 2014

Satire etc. has nothing to do with the use of a copyrighted photo. More than likely Louisiana payed a photographer for images to use in their ad campaign, and that photographer would have licensed the state to use those photos for a certain purpose for a certain amount of time. The photographer always retains all rights to their photos (unless they agree to sell the copyright), anyone who wants to use a photo has to negotiate with the photographer as far as a fair price and terms of use. What I'm saying is that the state probably doesn't have a case against move-on (because as has been pointed out, satire is generally protected speech) but the photographer who holds the copyright to the photos that were used probably does have a case (if he chooses to pursue the matter).

Lasher

(27,553 posts)
12. From the article's comments section:
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:04 PM
Mar 2014
bywaterbob1 hour ago

The State of Louisiana is doomed to lose this case. The taxpayers will be left with a multi-million dollar legal bill all because Jindal's feelings got hurt. Parody is specifically recognized by the US Copyright Office and the US Supreme Court as a permitted fair use of copyrighted work. You can use the copyright to make fun of a politician. End of story. This is basic settled law that Jay Dardennes learned in law school. Under Federal Copyright law not only would we be paying legal fees to Jindal's lawyers, but its likely the taxpayers would be required to pay the legal fees and costs of MoveOn. If the Court finds that the lawsuit is frivolous and not based on law (which it certainly is not), the State could face further sanctions and fines for filing the law suit. Bobby's hissy fit is going to cost us big time.

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

Lying Republican hypocrites. Always the victim. Always dishing it out but just can't take it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. Louisiana wasted millions trying to create a 'brand' with a word? It's never going to be a state
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:27 PM
Mar 2014

tourists care to visit. Other than the drunk street party Mardi Gras for a day or two, who wants to visit a swamp.

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
21. Jindal will lose. Just like Falwell lost against Hustler over the Campari ad parody.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:03 AM
Mar 2014
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell

It's classic political parody speech. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of Larry Flynt, 8-0, including Scalia and Rehnquist (who was Chief Justice at the time in 1987).

Flynt took to his Hustler magazine to run a parody of the cheesy old Campari liquor ads which featured people talking about their "first time." Flynt showed not only an image of Falwell, but also featured a bottle of Campari, next to which Falwell talks about how his "first time" was in an outhouse outside Lynchburg, Virginia...with his mother. Vintage Flynt move. MoveOn's ad is quite tame in comparison.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
23. Can't sue you ... you didn't say ...
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:23 AM
Mar 2014

Pick your passion! Jindal is a criminal poodle molester!

Of course, there are probably a bunch of billboards with stuff like "Pick your passion! Come visit onehandle's gumbo shack! All the crawfish you can eat!" And if those billboards exist, that won't help Louisiana's case.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
28. Reminds me of the Obama Hope poster lawsuit
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:32 PM
Mar 2014

That ended up being settled out of court. Probably where this is headed, after all the posturing is over.

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