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Omaha Steve

(99,556 posts)
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 02:32 PM Mar 2014

Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps Sr. “on the edge of death,” son says

Source: CBS

The estranged son of the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church said his father is "on the edge of death."

Fred Phelps Sr. became famous for organizing picket lines of brightly-colored signs carrying hateful messages against tolerance during the funerals of military personnel and famous figures. His actions led to at least two federal and several state laws restricting protests during military funerals.

In a statement on his Facebook page, Nathan Phelps, who has been estranged from his father for 30 years, said the senior Phelps was dying in hospice care in Topeka, Kan., and that he had been ex-communicated from his own church in August of 2013.

"I'm not sure how I feel about this. Terribly ironic that his devotion to his god ends this way. Destroyed by the monster he made," Nathan Phelps wrote.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/westboro-baptist-church-founder-fred-phelps-sr-on-the-edge-of-death-son-says/

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Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps Sr. “on the edge of death,” son says (Original Post) Omaha Steve Mar 2014 OP
Couldn't happen Maynar Mar 2014 #1
I hope they have the mother of all gay pride street parties outside of his funeral Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2014 #40
haha - that would be good and should seriously be considered. nt Lucky Luciano Mar 2014 #55
That is the ultimate idea. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #64
I think a few thousand picketers with "God Hates Bigots" sign would be priceless putitinD Mar 2014 #76
Wouldnt that be something? 7962 Mar 2014 #87
Having gay sex on his grave would fit too. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #84
Good. If anyone deserves death it is him. And I'm not sorry. bamademo Mar 2014 #2
Give my regards to the Devil africanadian Mar 2014 #3
God hates haters RufusTFirefly Mar 2014 #4
It will be hard to feel any sense of loss at his passing. mysuzuki2 Mar 2014 #5
Hear that creaking noise? Cirque du So-What Mar 2014 #6
Maybe someone will block his funeral. Historic NY Mar 2014 #7
Who will protest at his funeral? ashling Mar 2014 #8
Maybe a bunch of LGBT people christx30 Mar 2014 #10
Good thought, just because he has been a terrible person doesn't mean we should get as Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #29
No protestors, but maybe a bucket brigade to move the casket along ... eppur_se_muova Mar 2014 #56
I'd love to show up to his funeral with Roger Waters flying pig balloon. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #9
I'm just wondering how he got excommunicated Lancero Mar 2014 #11
Gotta be a story there....... Mopar151 Mar 2014 #49
He probably got out-eviled by that Phelps-Roper daughter. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #65
Boooo Hooooo n/t onecent Mar 2014 #12
To be sure....don't you need a wooden stake? Grins Mar 2014 #13
This would make a great DUzy! Jamastiene Mar 2014 #66
Message to Fred Phelps: Take Dick Cheney with you SkatmanRoth Mar 2014 #14
... SammyWinstonJack Mar 2014 #63
good rid! n/t wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #15
I never rejoice in the suffering of another human ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2014 #16
I hope NOBODY protests that funeral. NYC Liberal Mar 2014 #17
True 47of74 Mar 2014 #34
Exactly! His memory be forgotten. nt icymist Mar 2014 #69
I agree with you davidpdx Mar 2014 #86
I'm pretty sure how I feel about this. cui bono Mar 2014 #18
They excommunicated him. n/t JimDandy Mar 2014 #41
Oh. I thought it was the son who had been excommunicated. cui bono Mar 2014 #44
I hope you have a painful and horrid death...that's the least that evil deserves. SoapBox Mar 2014 #19
I sort of "predicted" this... Archae Mar 2014 #20
Hopefully the church will find hate is not the way Jesus taught. Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #32
Fat chance. Archae Mar 2014 #42
she's got Michelle Bachman eyes. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #80
A lot of cult followers and leaders to. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #83
He'll be missed like cancer. nt valerief Mar 2014 #21
The world's about to get a little better. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #22
At times like this I kind of wish there really was a heaven and hell. Kablooie Mar 2014 #23
Boy, is HE in for a surprise ! pangaia Mar 2014 #24
Hang on, Fred. Don't give up just yet. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2014 #25
! Turbineguy Mar 2014 #26
Do we have to only say nice things about him when he croaks? Teamster Jeff Mar 2014 #27
The nicest thing that can be said is that he is mentally ill (n/t) William Seger Mar 2014 #31
I hope the Hell not. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #67
I would be Karma.... physioex Mar 2014 #28
I like the Gay Pride Parade idea more and more. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #68
Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps Sr. on the precipice of hell Martin Eden Mar 2014 #30
He is about to escape the hell that he created for himself. olddad56 Mar 2014 #35
May he have an LGBT hospice caregiver... ehrnst Mar 2014 #33
Amen CFLDem Mar 2014 #36
That would actually be nice. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #70
Sounds like a good teaching opportunity. Ilsa Mar 2014 #37
I wish him well in his pending new location. marble falls Mar 2014 #38
God hates painkillers Bosonic Mar 2014 #39
God doesn't hate anything or anybody. People hate and they hate out of fear. olddad56 Mar 2014 #43
More than a few people hate PorridgeGun Mar 2014 #60
In the words of Ebenezer Rockwood Hoar.. armed_and_liberal Mar 2014 #45
I hope nobody shows up at his funeral Stargazer09 Mar 2014 #46
I'd say Fred Phelp's greatest fear.. Jerry442 Mar 2014 #47
But how do we get rid of his wikipedia entry? AAO Mar 2014 #61
I refuse to celebrate anyone's failing health.... groundloop Mar 2014 #48
Burn baby burn!!!! Theyletmeeatcake2 Mar 2014 #50
Oh well. progressoid Mar 2014 #51
Hey Phelps? God loves you man demwing Mar 2014 #52
Burying him would be a terrible thing to do to the dirt. lastlib Mar 2014 #53
Wow - I look forward to seeing this obituary with great pleasure. nt Lucky Luciano Mar 2014 #54
Everybody dies get the red out Mar 2014 #57
My Mom told me - "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything". AAO Mar 2014 #58
I promise not to picket his funeral Jack Rabbit Mar 2014 #59
Some say it The Wizard Mar 2014 #62
Is he dead yet? Jamastiene Mar 2014 #71
He Dies Goes to Heaven and Finds God Is Gay n/t LarryNM Mar 2014 #72
Let's all show up at the funeral and have a giant same-sex kissathon! LadyHawkAZ Mar 2014 #73
What a shame... blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #74
I really really really want to know the story behind that excommunication. JoeyT Mar 2014 #75
I do feel for Nathan. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #82
I'm gonna guess that the story is more banal... Orsino Mar 2014 #94
"Daddy's standing at death's door and we're hoping our prayers will pull him through" Warpy Mar 2014 #77
Only speak good of the deceased. mn9driver Mar 2014 #78
He will receive his just Karma... Jenny_92808 Mar 2014 #79
Slogan for the Hell Motel: maddogesq Mar 2014 #95
Is he dead yet? Jamastiene Mar 2014 #81
The greatest and best response here, would an outpouring of LOVE. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #85
Great message, but this is DU. You HAVE read some comments here on stuff as basic as taxes, right? 7962 Mar 2014 #88
All the more reason. n/t DeSwiss Mar 2014 #89
This man is an intolerant bigot whose theatrics caused pain to many people. Beacool Mar 2014 #90
And a serial child abuser. Orsino Mar 2014 #91
Terrible man. Beacool Mar 2014 #92
The allegations of physical and sexual abuse are out there... Orsino Mar 2014 #93
 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
40. I hope they have the mother of all gay pride street parties outside of his funeral
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 04:51 PM
Mar 2014

Fuck that guy.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
64. That is the ultimate idea.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 07:57 PM
Mar 2014

I have heard people talk about picketing his funeral, ignoring his funeral, and going to his funeral to wish nice things for him(I never get that whole love your enemy thing, especially after they are dead), but your idea is the best one I have heard yet. It would be the ultimate. I love it!

bamademo

(2,193 posts)
2. Good. If anyone deserves death it is him. And I'm not sorry.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 02:34 PM
Mar 2014

As much hurt and hate over the years that he has spread, I can't spare one bit of human kindeness.

Cirque du So-What

(25,918 posts)
6. Hear that creaking noise?
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 02:43 PM
Mar 2014

It's the gates of Hell opening wide to receive an extra-special V.I.P. Watch out, Satan, you might soon have a rebel leader in your ranks!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
10. Maybe a bunch of LGBT people
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 02:52 PM
Mar 2014

holding signs that say "We forgive you. We love you. We're better Christians than you."

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
29. Good thought, just because he has been a terrible person doesn't mean we should get as
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 04:20 PM
Mar 2014

Dirty as he has been, it would only stand to lower our standard to his.

eppur_se_muova

(36,256 posts)
56. No protestors, but maybe a bucket brigade to move the casket along ...
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 06:51 PM
Mar 2014

can't put that one in the ground fast enough.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
9. I'd love to show up to his funeral with Roger Waters flying pig balloon.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 02:51 PM
Mar 2014



But preferably the demon pig one from Run Like Hell.

Mopar151

(9,977 posts)
49. Gotta be a story there.......
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 05:33 PM
Mar 2014

Did the old fart finally show a thread of decency, someway, or did he get out-eviled by one of his daughters?

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
65. He probably got out-eviled by that Phelps-Roper daughter.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 08:01 PM
Mar 2014

Hell, in some ways, I think she is worse than he was/is.

Something tells me that this death watch is going to take a while. Those types don't die easy or fast. It takes forever to finally even get them to even consider dying. Look how long it finally took Strom Thurmond and Jessie Helms.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
17. I hope NOBODY protests that funeral.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 03:21 PM
Mar 2014

Nobody giving a shit is worse than hate. He'd love everyone to show up.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
34. True
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 04:34 PM
Mar 2014

As Marcus Aurelius once said, "The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury."

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
86. I agree with you
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 05:23 AM
Mar 2014

Someone in another thread suggested the idea of donating to a charity. I'd take it one step further and donate to a charity that he wouldn't support in HIS name.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
18. I'm pretty sure how I feel about this.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 03:24 PM
Mar 2014

Sorry for any one who had him as a father though. What an hate filled man he was.

I don't get what the irony is. "Destroyed by the monster he made," Nathan Phelps wrote."

Did hate and intolerance kill him? Did his church kill him?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
19. I hope you have a painful and horrid death...that's the least that evil deserves.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 03:28 PM
Mar 2014

And that you suffer for eternity in a boiling vat of hell.

Then maybe in a few trillion years you'll finally get a clue about about living like a civilized, HONEST, fellow human being.

Well...hope does spring eternal.

Archae

(46,311 posts)
20. I sort of "predicted" this...
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 03:29 PM
Mar 2014

After Fred dies, I said that his "church" and family would break apart, in battles over money and power.

That Shirley Phelps-Roper will probably take over the "family crusade."

Archae

(46,311 posts)
42. Fat chance.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 05:15 PM
Mar 2014

Shirley Phelps-Roper likes the money and attention she gets by carrying on the family "crusade."



Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
83. A lot of cult followers and leaders to.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:45 AM
Mar 2014

I call it the glassy eyes of zealots. They have that look in their eyes in common. It's damned creepy. Their eyes glaze over more and more, depending on how obsessed they become as they go deeper and deeper into whatever cult like mentality they have embraced.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
67. I hope the Hell not.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 08:07 PM
Mar 2014

I will have to be quiet if that is the case. I have nothing nice to say about him. His death, however, I do have something good to say about that. IF he ever does die; good.

physioex

(6,890 posts)
28. I would be Karma....
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 04:14 PM
Mar 2014

To have protest at his funeral, to see what its like to have the shoe on the other foot.

Martin Eden

(12,859 posts)
30. Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps Sr. on the precipice of hell
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 04:22 PM
Mar 2014

If there IS a hell, that's where he's going.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
35. He is about to escape the hell that he created for himself.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 04:37 PM
Mar 2014

His soul will be returned to the cosmic consciousness of the universe and he will be whole again. His sick mind will die with his sick body. Just my opinion.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
33. May he have an LGBT hospice caregiver...
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 04:24 PM
Mar 2014

who shows him what compassion really means.

Then comes out to him just before the end.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
37. Sounds like a good teaching opportunity.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 04:45 PM
Mar 2014

Remind them all that no one is immune to Death's clutches. We'll be judged in part by the joy or misery we brought others.

 

PorridgeGun

(80 posts)
60. More than a few people hate
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 07:25 PM
Mar 2014

because they're projecting their own worst faults onto the object of their derision. We all have our own reservoir of contemptible behaviour in our psyche. The more honest we are with ourselves about it, the less likely we are to fall under the spell of our "shadows" (as Jung would have put it) when we come under stress.

armed_and_liberal

(246 posts)
45. In the words of Ebenezer Rockwood Hoar..
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 05:22 PM
Mar 2014

I won't be attending the funeral, But I do approve of it!

(Usually and incorrectly attributed to Mark Twain)

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
46. I hope nobody shows up at his funeral
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 05:25 PM
Mar 2014

Just let him slide right into anonymity. Hopefully, his insane followers will disappear, but I'm not holding my breath on that happening.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
47. I'd say Fred Phelp's greatest fear..
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 05:27 PM
Mar 2014

...would that his departure would be ignored by everyone and that he'd be forgotten. We can do that, and not even get our hands dirty.

groundloop

(11,517 posts)
48. I refuse to celebrate anyone's failing health....
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 05:30 PM
Mar 2014

Therefore, as I have nothing good to say about this person I shall say nothing.
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
52. Hey Phelps? God loves you man
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 06:26 PM
Mar 2014

because God doesn't hate.

I, on the other hand, am glad you are dying you fucking piece of shit, and I hope you experience a long, drawn-out, painful transition into whatever hell awaits you.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
58. My Mom told me - "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything".
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 07:12 PM
Mar 2014

If there really is a Christian God, and a heaven and hell, I hope he burns in hell for the rest of eternity.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
59. I promise not to picket his funeral
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 07:12 PM
Mar 2014

I don't plan on attending it in any way, or to otherwise observe his passing.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
71. Is he dead yet?
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 08:14 PM
Mar 2014


Something tells me this is going to be a long death watch. People like him usually won't even consider dying. When the decision is made for them and they do start dying, they take forever and drag it out.

IF he ever really does die, I really like the Gay Pride Parade at his funeral idea the best of them all so far.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
73. Let's all show up at the funeral and have a giant same-sex kissathon!
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 09:54 PM
Mar 2014

Ya know, see the old bastard off right.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
75. I really really really want to know the story behind that excommunication.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 10:59 PM
Mar 2014

I'm wondering if he had a sudden change of heart and his kids that remained in the church, realizing that would screw up their meal ticket, kicked him out of the church and are preventing people from seeing him. The last thing they want or need is the Phelps patriarch going on record with some liberal nonsense about how "God loves all his children, even the gay ones.". Or even worse, donating a bunch of their ill-gotten gains to charities.

I don't hold out much hope that that's the case, but that would be a pretty hard story to beat. (And would be a massive blow for the anti-LGBT rights crusaders.)

Nathan seems like a good guy, and I hate this for him.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
82. I do feel for Nathan.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:43 AM
Mar 2014

I highly doubt Fred Phelps has had any kind of change of heart.

I think the real story is why was he excommunicated, to be honest. Whether he lives or dies is sort of immaterial at this point. I'd love to know why he was excommunicated though.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
94. I'm gonna guess that the story is more banal...
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 10:32 AM
Mar 2014

...involving the choice of successor and control of church assets. Phelps raised an army of lawyers, so there was probably little chance of his ending comfortably.

I suspect that he is both Lear and Fool.

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
77. "Daddy's standing at death's door and we're hoping our prayers will pull him through"
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 11:09 PM
Mar 2014

goes the old joke and I'm sure there's a bit of that going on. I imagine there is quite an empire built up over the years from nuisance lawsuits.

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
79. He will receive his just Karma...
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 11:53 PM
Mar 2014

we need to do nothing to harm him but speak out against this kind of hate in the future.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
85. The greatest and best response here, would an outpouring of LOVE.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 04:15 AM
Mar 2014

Love is the answer to ALL THINGS.

TO EVERYTHING.

UNCONDITIONAL LOVE

We should remember him in this way.

That without this man's existence we would not know LOVE like we do.

Thank him for the lesson he taught us.

To love one another without restraint.

Without prejudice.

Without limits.

Make this the legacy of Fred Phelps.

There is a thin line between love and hate.

Let us broach that line.

- Let us all refuse to remember him in any other way than that he taught us all the importance of LOVING EACH OTHER UNCONDITIONALLY.

That is the best legacy of all.......

K&R

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
88. Great message, but this is DU. You HAVE read some comments here on stuff as basic as taxes, right?
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 07:38 AM
Mar 2014

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
90. This man is an intolerant bigot whose theatrics caused pain to many people.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 09:55 AM
Mar 2014

He will soon encounter the Lord, may he have mercy on his soul.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
91. And a serial child abuser.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 10:04 AM
Mar 2014

His family won't live long enough to heal what he did to them. And what they've done to their own kids. And from what they've wished on millions.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
93. The allegations of physical and sexual abuse are out there...
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 10:16 AM
Mar 2014

...but his doctrine? That has undeniably fucked up the family. Some of them will never recover or atone.

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