Exclusive: U.S. Boycotts U.N. Drone Talks
Source: Foreign Policy
Pakistan is trying to push a resolution through the United Nations Human Rights Council that would trigger greater scrutiny of whether U.S. drone strikes violate international human rights law. Washington, though, doesn't want to talk about it.
The Pakistani draft, which was obtained by Foreign Policy, urges states to "ensure transparency" in record-keeping on drone strikes and to "conduct prompt, independent and impartial investigations whenever there are indications of any violations to human rights caused by their use." It also calls for the convening of "an interactive panel discussion" on the use of drones.
The Geneva-based human rights council held its third round of discussions about the draft on Wednesday, but the Obama administration boycotted the talks.
The White House decision to sit out the negotiations is a departure from the collaborative approach the administration promised to take when it first announced plans to join the Human Rights Council in March 2009.
Read more: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/03/19/exclusive_us_boycotts_un_drone_talks
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)go west young man
(4,856 posts)Cha
(295,914 posts)Russia is.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)go west young man
(4,856 posts)http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/01/01/343071/us-greatest-threat-to-peace-poll/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/greatest-threat-world-peace-country_n_4531824.html
http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-america-the-most-dangerous-country-in-the-world
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5077984.stm
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)to peace; (b) 24% is not a majority
go ahead and find valid poll (and no junk presstv or rt.com links) showing that the US is disliked more than it's like globally
Russia would kill to have our favorability abroad.
go west young man
(4,856 posts)Distraction technique and nothing more. And this thread isn't about favorability (nice try). It's about our country killing people with drones. Which has a lot more to do with "threatening behavior" than favorability polls.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)go west young man
(4,856 posts)Here your in a bit of a bind as the poll cited is a PEW research poll. Your favorite polling company. The same company you've cited through most of our debates. The same company you felt had the best stats for Russian behavior. Now all of a sudden PEW is not good enough for you.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)read your own links
the Pew poll you posted was from 2006. When Bush was president and we had hundreds of thousands of troops in Iraq.
Sad to see someone so desperate to boost Russia at the expense of the USA.
go west young man
(4,856 posts)I see two countries with problems with regular people in both countries suffering due to outdated thinking and policies. Russia has plenty of problems as does any major country these days. Pitting us vs. them is the wrong approach to helping people in both countries.I've been fighting for democratic principles on this board long before you came along.
Hence, the Fucking Hippies were right.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8768651
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)go west young man
(4,856 posts)and inquisitive enough to read. My 8 trips to Russia effected my thinking. Ironically, I am a former US marine 0341, 1st battalion, 6th Marines, 2nd Mar Div, Camp Lejuene.... who's training back in the 80's was primarily for war against the Russians. I had a very different perspective of Russia back then...mostly Cold War Russia. Since then I've witnessed new Russia with my own two eyes and am amazed at how wrongly most Americans perceive Russia.
Posts like yours are divisive and grounded in the past. I'm proud to say I'm not as nationalistic as I once was. I consider myself a citizen of the world these days and my judgment is no longer colored by a desire to pick a winning team. My goal at DU is to help others understand Russia isn't he new bogeyman...Putin isn't your new Saddam or Qaddafi or Chavez.
America needs jobs and money flowing to the lower income families.....we need social programs and retirement savings. We don't need a bunch of DU'ers pushing for a new Cold war which only directs dollars to the MIC, Wall Street, the Neocons, big oil and the top 1%. Everything we rail against here every day. One policy trumps another. You put your energy into constantly reinforcing what seems to me a new Cold War...I will put my energy into diffusing it. I owe it to my fellow American citizens and my Russian friends.
go west young man
(4,856 posts)I see you've been a member since 2004. My point however, still stands.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Pres Obama's war crimes. What a system.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... because I swore I heard someone preaching about "International Law" just a couple days ago. It's the hypocritical double standard that stinks to high heaven. Hell, we have double standards everywhere we look. Two standards for Main Street and Wall Street. Two standards for our government and all other governments on the planet. Oh they love to brag on our system of Law. Looks more like a system of Lawlessness.
2banon
(7,321 posts)simply astonishing on the one hand. But no one in the U.S. is paying much attention anyway. And besides, we're Amerika... U.S.A.!! U.S.A.!
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Hey wait a minute....
I guess he's got nothing to lose.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)Pakistan and US: Hand-in-hand on drone deaths
...
Earlier in 2010, WikiLeaks made public a 2008 cable by former US ambassador Ann Patterson who recalled her meeting with former Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani in which the latter said on the issue of drone strikes, "...as long as they get the right people. We'll protest in the National Assembly and then ignore it," Gilani told Patterson.
As always, trying to have it both ways.
Amnesty International, in a recent report on drones, claimed that a number of serving and retired Pakistani security officials familiar with intelligence cooperation between the two countries told the rights group that as security professionals, they supported the "targeted killing" program.
Some also claim that Pakistans military and intelligence services continue to assist the US in carrying out drone strikes. Amnesty International was unable to independently verify these claims, which were officially denied by representatives of the Pakistan armed forces. However, It remains unclear how the US would be able to carry out such strikes within Pakistan's border without the Pakistani governments explicit help and agreement.
And why would the US dare to attack such archangels as the poor benighted Taliban?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014730088
We're still at war with terrorists. They certainly haven't declared a ceasefire with us, so no reason for us to do the same. Especially Pakistan - who were well aware of Osama bin Laden.
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)We're just killing people in third world countries because it makes duped people less afraid.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^
rpannier
(24,304 posts)Pakistan's government is trying to have its cake and eat it to for a while
It needs to be discussed more.
They complain about the drone strikes, but also agree to them
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)They are helping the Pakistani ethnic majority, Punjabi, to consolidate power away from other ethnic minority groups. The Punjabi people control the Pakistani government and that is who the CIA are helping.
The Pakistani government has been directing the US to their targets. This has been public knowledge for some time.
There is a dose of reality for you.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)rather embarrassing though, it would be better if we stayed-told our side of story............
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)"american exceptionalism" which means that the UN,
Pakistani's, etc. are not fully human - so it's OK to
kill/drone them, blow off international law, etc.
It needs to stop.
US violence in the world is not the solution,
it is the problem.
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Maedhros
(10,007 posts)women and children targeted by "signature strikes" gone awry.
Bit by bit, the rabid nationalists for whom American military violence bolsters their sense of well-being will fade away and compassionate human beings will drive the national discourse. Until then we have work to do.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
U.S. airstrike that killed American teen in Yemen raises legal, ethical questions
Sure seems like this crime calls for some 1st degree murder charges. Along conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder.
Luckily, there is no statute of limitations for murder.
So, while they have gotten away with it for now...
Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)go home.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)and leave the party.