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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 04:45 PM Mar 2014

U.S. Postal Service to reduce workforce by 10,000 in 2015

Source: AL.com

The U.S. Postal Service will trim its workforce by 10,000 employees in the coming year in the agency's latest effort to stem the tide of financial losses.

Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe said USPS will not offer early retirement or buyouts but will rely on attrition and not filling vacant positions. The postal service currently has about 480,000 workers, down from 700,000 a few years ago. The USPS has eliminated about 320,000 jobs since 2000 and, according to figures first reported by Federal Times, have a target of about 400,000 employees.

.......

"We cannot return the organization to long-term financial stability without passage of comprehensive postal reform legislation. We appreciate the efforts of the House and Senate oversight committees to make this happen as soon as possible," Donahoe said earlier this year.

The USPS posted net losses of $354 million for the first quarter of 2014, the 19th of the last 21 quarters it sustained a loss. Results from the first quarter show an increase in shipping and package services offset by a drop in first-class mail, as well as what USPS officials described as "stifling legal mandates, and its inflexible business and governance models."




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U.S. Postal Service to reduce workforce by 10,000 in 2015 (Original Post) Redfairen Mar 2014 OP
POS Congress fucked over the USPS and so once again fucked over Americans. nt valerief Mar 2014 #1
If the PO were a country... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #8
This Christmas the USPS showed, once again, dotymed Mar 2014 #39
Yep, that GOP House is really a jobs creation machine. 10,000 to lose good jobs sinkingfeeling Mar 2014 #43
Except when they're raising the pension requirements on union jobs like USPS. nt valerief Mar 2014 #44
All due to Republicans screwing it over sakabatou Mar 2014 #2
^^ This. AzDar Mar 2014 #10
It wasn't a republican bill. It was bipartisan. Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #37
Ted Kennedy and Henry Waxman? madville Mar 2014 #23
Can't hang this one on the Repubs, they were ALL in on it. Kilgore Mar 2014 #28
That's going to make things even tougher for Amazon Sherman A1 Mar 2014 #3
Amazon... toddwv Mar 2014 #41
That's a lot of unemployed people. dreamstst Mar 2014 #4
Sure is and those folks are represented. lonestarnot Mar 2014 #31
Are they? dreamstst Mar 2014 #46
I know.. :( Cha Mar 2014 #53
Wonder what rural mail carriers will do newfie11 Mar 2014 #5
That's right. dreamstst Mar 2014 #47
Sure that won't effect the economy at all abelenkpe Mar 2014 #6
Through retirements and attrition yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #13
Nah, why save good union jobs. Who needs those? lonestarnot Mar 2014 #32
Why they don't permit POs to do credit union style simple banking transactions is beyond me. MADem Mar 2014 #7
That's easy. toddwv Mar 2014 #42
I am familiar with overpriced mail service, and it really does suck. MADem Mar 2014 #49
The GD'd Koch Sociopaths Are Behind the Financial "Struggle" BodieTown Mar 2014 #9
Looks bipartisan to me, the question is why....... Kilgore Mar 2014 #33
Somebody At DU Explained It Last Year BodieTown Mar 2014 #45
Koch whores and Dems are not mutually exclusive by any stretch Doctor_J Mar 2014 #50
I thought Republicans were against the government picking winners and losers ? Trust Buster Mar 2014 #11
It was a bipartisan bill madville Mar 2014 #26
I wonder how much this has to do ballyhoo Mar 2014 #12
I went on the USPS website for stats OnlinePoker Mar 2014 #14
God, I had no idea....... ballyhoo Mar 2014 #19
We must protect the horse carriage industry. Psephos Mar 2014 #15
Would you mind detailing some of the aspects of the outmoded business model? kristopher Mar 2014 #16
Sure. :) Psephos Mar 2014 #51
and yet they out-performed Fedex over Christmas Skittles Mar 2014 #52
That's perhaps the most argument-free response I've ever gotten here. n/t Psephos Mar 2014 #54
Congress has REFUSED to allow the USPS to change its business model BodieTown Mar 2014 #17
So Sherman A1 Mar 2014 #18
My brother was just telling me of the scandal in his town. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #22
Here: pa28 Mar 2014 #29
CONgress' anti-USPS finally paying its dividends. CONgress must be SO HAPPY. CONgress = job killers blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #20
Not what we employees just heard PATRICK Mar 2014 #21
Dude lordsummerisle Mar 2014 #25
'They', congress? made them pre-fund billions in some 'retirement' account and screwed their books. Sunlei Mar 2014 #24
Most of what you are proposing has been done. Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #27
Another Internet Expert who has no clue what the hell he is talking about brentspeak Mar 2014 #48
Poison pill bill passed during * admin was designed to destroy the USPS Triana Mar 2014 #30
So why was it a bipartisan bill??? Kilgore Mar 2014 #34
Upthred, I said dotymed Mar 2014 #40
Because the lines at the post office aren't long enough. nt Deep13 Mar 2014 #35
Fuck the government SamKnause Mar 2014 #36
+1 newfie11 Mar 2014 #38

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. If the PO were a country...
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:13 PM
Mar 2014

it would be easier to see the "destabilize" pattern being played out.
the pattern that drove Iraq, Afghanistan, Greece, Spain, Cyprus to ruin:

Make sure the money to run the country is not available, via theft
Make mass unemployment a condition of receiving any help
Make sure the help you offer is insufficient
Prevent any internal methods to fix the problem ( infrastructure, re-structure)
Demand more and more concessions as time goes on.

Worked with Detroit, too.


And now the IMF has offered to "help" Ukraine.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
39. This Christmas the USPS showed, once again,
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:22 AM
Mar 2014

That it is MUCH more efficient than ANY privatized nation-wide mail/package delivery system.
Sickeningly "our Congress" Keeps pushing it into bankruptcy so it can be privatized. That way all of them and their owners can realize huge profits. Of course this will result in price-fixing and probably a monopolization of delivery services. Even paying their employees shit wages, they cannot compete with the USPS. Of course they are not required "by LAW" to fund their retirement benefits for 75 years in advance. Probably most of them do not have retirement benefits except for their over-paid executives. This is just another plan to rip-off the extremely under-paid average Americans who depend on this still (despite congressional efforts) affordable service.

I am psyched that so far both Senator Sanders and Robert Reich have announced their willingness to seek the office of POTUS in 2016.
I KNOW that POTUS is not the one fucking with the USPS but I also know the power that office and its "bully pulpit" wield.
That power has the potential to completely change the current "all for money" attitude of Americans and their greed driven "leaders."
I desperately hope that if we survive another 2 years, Americans will elect a POTUS, not of the corporate persuasion and change this heinous, current paradigm. Fuck Party, FDR, etc, would not recognize "our" party anyway.

sinkingfeeling

(51,438 posts)
43. Yep, that GOP House is really a jobs creation machine. 10,000 to lose good jobs
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:37 AM
Mar 2014

because the House is too busy repealing Obamacare and taking women back to the 5th. century.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
37. It wasn't a republican bill. It was bipartisan.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 06:57 AM
Mar 2014

There were 3 cosponsors- 2 of them were Democrats.

It was passed by voice vote in the house, which means there is no exact count, but it passed overwhelmingly. It passed unanimously in the senate.

madville

(7,404 posts)
23. Ted Kennedy and Henry Waxman?
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:08 PM
Mar 2014

They're republicans now? They were sponsors of the legislation that easily passed both houses of Congress with bipartisan support.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
28. Can't hang this one on the Repubs, they were ALL in on it.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:25 PM
Mar 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2016044

The last post on the above thread sums it up.

From introduction to signed in 13 days!! Can't figure out why it was co sponsored by two Dems, Waxman & Davis

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/hr6407

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. That's going to make things even tougher for Amazon
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 04:49 PM
Mar 2014

along with other shippers relying upon FedEx Smart Post.

 

dreamstst

(53 posts)
4. That's a lot of unemployed people.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 04:50 PM
Mar 2014

"The postal service currently has about 480,000 workers, down from 700,000 a few years ago." But the Postal Service has to break even.

 

dreamstst

(53 posts)
47. That's right.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 11:01 AM
Mar 2014

The remaining postal workers will have to pick up the slack. A speed-up. Or unpaid overtime.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
13. Through retirements and attrition
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:16 PM
Mar 2014

I agree that it is a sad situation overall. Those 1000 vacancies could go to unemployed.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. Why they don't permit POs to do credit union style simple banking transactions is beyond me.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:10 PM
Mar 2014

It would help people who can't afford expensive "bank" accounts, if they could have a post office savings account.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
42. That's easy.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:34 AM
Mar 2014

The goal is to kill the USPS. It's a deliberate attempt to destroy an American institution.


Just wait until small town USA has to drive 20 miles to pick up mail or a package that costs about 3 times the price to ship.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
49. I am familiar with overpriced mail service, and it really does suck.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 12:20 PM
Mar 2014

In overseas locations you pay through the NOSE for basic services. And getting home delivery? Good luck with that!

I love the USPS. It's an American treasure.

BodieTown

(147 posts)
9. The GD'd Koch Sociopaths Are Behind the Financial "Struggle"
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:19 PM
Mar 2014

It is an effort by the Kochs, the right-wing, and corporate Democrats to destroy unions.

They are winning big time.

This was reported quite awhile back.

BodieTown

(147 posts)
45. Somebody At DU Explained It Last Year
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 10:50 AM
Mar 2014

I don't understand everything that was written, but the Summary at the end is fairly clear.

Personally, I never underestimate the number of corporate "dems" (if such a thing can even exist) either back then and especially today. They are right-wing, not centrist, dem in "D" only. The bill was passed in 48 hours, and it wasn't a recorded vote...how convenient.

Bottom line: The roots of the USPS Destruction Act go back to ALEC and the billionaire sociopaths that birthed it.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
50. Koch whores and Dems are not mutually exclusive by any stretch
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 01:31 PM
Mar 2014

once more and then I will quit.

The reason Repuke voters are more passionate is because they want this sort of malice to be enacted, and their reps do it. Dem voters expect their reps to fight against it, and when they don't, discouragement sets in, big time

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
11. I thought Republicans were against the government picking winners and losers ?
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:01 PM
Mar 2014

There's a simple reason why the Republicans passed legislation requiring the USPS to fully fund pensions for the next 75 years. Like corporate America and public education, UPS and Fed Ex sure want to take over that business and eliminate their competition at the same time. Then you better believe we'll all be paying more for mail and shipping. Ironic side note: UPS and Fed Ex currently contract out a significant amount of their deliveries to rural communities to ? You guessed it...the USPS.

madville

(7,404 posts)
26. It was a bipartisan bill
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:24 PM
Mar 2014

It was a bipartisan bill. The House vote was 410-20 if I remember right, before there was a final voice vote. No one dissented in the Senate and it passed unanimously.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
12. I wonder how much this has to do
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:06 PM
Mar 2014

with the Bill Pay functions people are using at their banks, for one. I used to pay my bills by mail. Now I do it all by wire through my bank. I don't really use the post office at all anymore. I buy virtually everything on Amazon Prime. Even at the new $100.00 rate, that pays for itself in a month. I won't use their new grocery service though.

OnlinePoker

(5,717 posts)
14. I went on the USPS website for stats
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:17 PM
Mar 2014

Between the high volume year of 2007 and 2013, total mail volume has dropped 25%. That will be a hit to anybody's bottomline. According to their 2014 Integrated Financial Plan, even without the pre-funded health care mandate, they still would have lost $11 Billion over the last 7 years (their net losses over the previous 7 years were $46 Billion with $35 Billion the mandated funding).

Psephos

(8,032 posts)
15. We must protect the horse carriage industry.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:40 PM
Mar 2014

Strip away all the political b.s., and this is the actual problem: the USPS business model is in the middle of overthrow by technology. It's dying. No amount of legislation or bailout money is going to fix that.

Either USPS transitions into a new business model based on current technologies and the changing needs of their customers, or they will be replaced by someone who isn't hidebound by the past and fossilized by a political (rather than economic) mandate.

The larger question is, why does everyone want to remain the 1950s forever, anyway? You can't; you'll get trampled. We live in a global economy, where there are plenty of competitors who get how the world works.

People who used to work for the Post Office will work for someone else. Just like the horse carriage people did. Old industries pass to obsolescence, new, more savvy ones arise to replace them.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
16. Would you mind detailing some of the aspects of the outmoded business model?
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 06:52 PM
Mar 2014

I see it differently, but I'm willing to listen. Thanks.

Psephos

(8,032 posts)
51. Sure. :)
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:58 PM
Mar 2014

Mail volume is currently dropping about 10% per year, and is down more than a third since its peak in 2006. There are about 30,000 post offices. Each has fixed costs that don't change very much regardless of how much mail (i.e., revenue) they process. So, fixed costs are not dropping nearly as fast as revenue, which means you have about 30,000 loss centers, and each will lose even more next year.

The trend will either continue or worsen. Why? Because first-class customers (that's you and me) now communicate by text or email, receive and pay our bills over the net, use Amazon Prime or ShopRunner for deliveries that used to go parcel post, and in general, prefer instant gratification (electronic) vs. delayed gratification (paper) in all our communications.

When fixed costs remain high while revenues plunge, you have the recipe for bankruptcy.

USPS is losing something like $25 million a day. USPS has about 600,000 active employees, making it one of the largest employers (second, I believe - ahead of companies like McDonalds, IBM, GE, Kroger, Yum Brands, etc.). USPS employees have very good benefits and pensions, including a pretty generous retiree medical benefit. Because of the large number of employees past and present, pension funding puts serious pressure on the bottom line. That's fine if the revenue stream is expanding, but a future disaster when it's falling. Pensions and benefits that were negotiated decades ago when no one was able to see the future of the business must still be paid, along with newer ones added to the obligation - but the pot of money to fund them is drying up. What good is a contractual promise if there's no money to back it up?

It's fashionable on this board to say the USPS's legal obligation to fund its pensions based on their Net Present Value is a political dirty trick, but I see it differently. First of all, the legislation was bipartisan, and passed during a lame-duck Congress after Democrats had already won control of both chambers for the coming session. Before the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 passed (in December), the Post Office was on a pay-as-you-go system. With rising liabilities and falling revenues, this was nothing more than a Ponzi scheme.

Henry Waxman was a co-sponsor of the bill. That speaks volumes.

Somehow there was an actual moment of clarity in Congress that the Post Office would default on its pension obligations if it didn't follow the accounting rules private companies are required to observe. They're called GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Principles), and one of the most fundamental is that if a company makes a contractual promise for a future expenditure (i.e., pension), that future promise has a discounted current cost to be applied against the current balance sheet. This NPV must appear as a liability, and be funded now (at a lesser amount, to reflect that the reserve will earn interest).

If a private company fails to do this, then it's liable for criminal sanction. When the government does it, you get California or Illinois, where there is no way they're going be able to pay the hundreds of billions they've promised their future retirees, or Detroit, which has already defaulted on its pensioners. In other words, Cal/Ill/Det SPENT the money they should have set aside for future obligations to pay CURRENT bills. Crack addicts use the same economic principle.

So, the USPS has the same problem the Big Three had in Detroit. The Big Three once ruled the industry, but more agile, efficient, and technologically superior competitors appeared, and took away market share. Think about the crap cars Detroit was pushing in the 80s and 90s, versus their Japanese competition. (Until the 2009 bailout of GM, it was *very* fashionable to bash Detroit cars here on this board, btw.) The Japanese cars were technologically superior, better-made, and unburdened by obsolete business models. The Big Three kept hemorrhaging market share, but their fixed costs remained almost static, due to their huge pension and benefit obligations. Less and less money could be invested in updating their product, improving their plants and R&D, and being more efficient, because more and more had to go into writing checks each month.

It's called overcapacity. When the Big Three had 80% market share, the formula worked. Their factories were churning. But when their market share was cut in half, with the same overburden of fixed costs remaining, it was only a matter of time before catastrophe. This is simple actuarial science, once you look at in economic rather than political terms.

In short, the USPS has overcapacity, high fixed costs, and an increasingly obsolete product it must sell at an ever-increasing price.

There are a number of good proposals about what a future Post Office should offer, and how it can adapt to this forever-changed technological business space. I saw a number of good, politically-neutral sources for ideas...so look around. Maybe we'll discuss some them in another post.

A pleasure meeting you, kristopher.



BodieTown

(147 posts)
17. Congress has REFUSED to allow the USPS to change its business model
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:26 PM
Mar 2014

I think it is telling the way you casually dismissed it as "political b.s." In fact, you are using the right-wing argument to condemn the USPS. Comparing it with horse and carriage? Seriously?

Get rid of the Postal Service, the best in the world, instead of kicking the corporate shills out of Congress?

Tell us: How many private businesses do you know of that were disallowed from changing their business model over the decades, and are perfectly thriving today?

Just name one.

Any business model that was not allowed to change with the times is dead.

Suggest you stop blaming what you perceive as a 1950s mentality on the USPS. The corporate Congressional right-wing (via the Kochs, and their monster, ALEC), enacted a slow death sentence for the USPS in about 2006. Look it up, as I don't think you fully appreciate the deadly impact of what they did...otherwise, you wouldn't be resorting to a right-wing explanation of what is wrong with the USPS.

FedEx and UPS (both rather right-wing corporations) use the USPS to deliver packages where no FedEx or UPS truck will dare go. What do you think: When we toss out the USPS, should be forbid corporations like FedEx and UPS from doing business, too, or is there a double-standard for profitized corporations?

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
18. So
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:31 PM
Mar 2014

Delivering the mail to homes and businesses is going to stop? How will fed ex get those Amazon packages to your mailbox?

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
22. My brother was just telling me of the scandal in his town.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:14 PM
Mar 2014

Everybody is having a shit fit because they only get mail every other day. Turns out the letter carriers are swamped due to retirements and a hiring freeze. Causing more eligible to retire.

It hit the papers and my brother said he saw them delivering on Sunday to catch up.

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
21. Not what we employees just heard
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:11 PM
Mar 2014

from our beloved Postmaster General, whose usual video performance stands up to Dustin Hoffman's as Mumbles in the film "Dick Tracy".

He was all a-gush with hope in the Senate mark-up of a compromise bill that would at least remove the burden of pre-funding retiree health care although it plays the same painful dishonest game with that too. That means not closing more facilities or ending six day delivery. It means finally hiring more people at least to stop the ludicrous reliance on super overtime pay, converting more lower tier employees to career status and getting more carriers. The "rumor" of conversion of underpaid no career status or benefit first tier employees has been around for weeks.

Of course, management will get back to its drowning the USPS in a bathtub policies in a couple of years, but perhaps this message is if the government fails to deliver- so will the USPS? Like getting anything rational or of service to America can pass Congress, even with the usual poison pills in the eventual bill is something of a sure thing.

The losing money meme is just that. In my experience of thirty years as the economy goes so goes the USPS except that our business is usually among the first to recover(except when screwed by mismanagement)- predictably from increased advertising. The Post Office is losing money- to Congressional fraud and government appointed management, even going so far as to make the rates Commission or Board of Governors impotent to do what little good they ever can.

"Saving" the postal service in these meme terms always means selling the golden goose portion, let the taxpayers have all the money losing aspects, killing the goose, shrinking away from universal service like the skin around a dessicated corpse and making a few people rich.

The money is not lost it is pouring toward the one per cent like an unstoppable wave carrying the detritus of the commons and the welfare of every living thing on the globe. In any event the goal of the USPS is to make sure everyone else in the nation makes money and is served- NOT to turn a profit or make itself rich.

The stored away "lost money" of fake derivatives and other hoarding and gambling is searching to make real value for itself only in purchasing power over all human goods and services, slaving and weakening the human race and not one thin dime to actually making anything at all really escape to do any good at all to the vast majority.

Sure, the modern world would drastically change the need for the current system- to the loss of a unique and irreplaceable door to door universal infrastructure. For better or worse, in private hands, so far that is bungled, fractured, insufficient, not universally available or of value to the nation's universal needs. In fact, more information exchange, as the USPS has helped in the past, means everyone thrives. Usually, unimpeded, without fake hoopla and lies-even against some logic- we are at the forefront and business grows.

Of course our manic management is too often working berserker to befuddle that natural occurrence with closings and degradations of service. And the media ignores ALL our periods of growth- during which our work force has consistently been shrunk even if you had to spend more money to privatize work away from the unions- at stamp-payers ultimate expense.

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
25. Dude
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:22 PM
Mar 2014

you seriously need to edit this post...I think I get what you're trying to say (after reading it 3 times) but it would have more impact if you said it succinctly...just sayin'

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
24. 'They', congress? made them pre-fund billions in some 'retirement' account and screwed their books.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:22 PM
Mar 2014

They deliver much more of amazon packages and the flat fee boxes seem very popular. I don't see how they could be losing money other than Congress? or outside interests? planned to ruin them, using that over funded retirement account? Who manages that account and what are their fees?

The post office needs to promote their services.They should expand the flat-fee service, offer larger boxes. and place a weight limit on larger boxes. They move the mail pretty fast these days. Make a 'first class' flat rate, envelope similar to the flat fee boxes. Let people order these online and have the postman deliver the empty boxes and envelopes.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
27. Most of what you are proposing has been done.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:14 PM
Mar 2014

Flat rate envelopes do exist. And you can order flat rate boxes/envelopes, and have them delivered to you.

In the last 7 years the post office would have lost 11 billion, even if they did not have to prefund the retirement plan.

Mail volume has dropped significantly. At my job we spent about 100 dollars a week in first class mail. We have dropped it to under 20.00 a week. At home I use online bill payment, and don't get a lot of mail. I go through less than 5 stamps a year.

As to the pre-funding retirement, I don't think its really a bad thing. If you are a letter carrier who is retiring today, and you were promised a monthly payment of X dollars, I think it would be good to know that the NPV of that promise is sitting in an investment account.

Compare that to a city like Detroit, which has been underfunding liabilities, and then they declare bankruptcy, and break a lot of promises that were made to the pensions.

Lets put it another way. If I owe you 10,000 dollars a year, for the next 10 years, would you rather know that I have 75k dollars in a savings account allocated to that payment, or would you rather me have 15,000, and tell you, don't worry, I got it covered.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
48. Another Internet Expert who has no clue what the hell he is talking about
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 11:39 AM
Mar 2014

"As to the pre-funding retirement, I don't think its really a bad thing. If you are a letter carrier who is retiring today, and you were promised a monthly payment of X dollars, I think it would be good to know that the NPV of that promise is sitting in an investment account. "

First of all, the prefunding is not for any "retirement plan" or "investment account"; it's for retiree health benefits. Second of all, this prefunding for later health benefits is nominally designed not for present USPS employees, but for future, as-yet unhired USPS employees -- USPS employees who don't exist yet. And lastly, it's highly unlikely that any future USPS employees will even see this money for their retirement health benefits, as a) Congress has been stealing from the USPS' cash reserves like a piggy bank; and b) most of today's USPS hires are being hired as contract temps only, with no retiree benefit plans. The whole thing is a scam and a lie.

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"In the last 7 years the post office would have lost 11 billion, even if they did not have to prefund the retirement plan."

The billions in "lost dollars" the USPS have accrued over the past several years are due less to actual real-life operational costs than for failure to make scheduled prefunding payments, a paper loss that privatization pimps can shout about when making their demands for the service's assets to be carved up and sold for pennies-on-the-dollar.


"Most of what you are proposing has been done..."

The 2006 Postal Reform Act which imposed the service-busting prefunding requirement also, at the behest of UPS and FedEx lobbying, authorized severe restrictions on the ability of the service to modify its business model as it sees fit. It is now illegal for the USPS to increase its profitability in many areas of shipping.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
34. So why was it a bipartisan bill???
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:56 PM
Mar 2014

This has really bugged me for quite a while.

The bill had large bipartisan support and went from introduction to signed in 13 days. Why did it get so much Democratic support including cosponsors?? What am I missing???

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2016044

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/hr6407

The senate version had 104 Dem and 58 Repub sponsors!!
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/hr22

This makes me nuts!!


dotymed

(5,610 posts)
40. Upthred, I said
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 09:01 AM
Mar 2014

"Fuck Party."
These corporate whores are the majority of "both" parties.
I grew up and have voted (FDR) Democrat all of my life. In the last few decades and it is getting worse, it has not mattered.
well, we do scrutinize the actions (and oppose the bad ones) of repubs more diligently than we do todays democrats.
Heaven forbid that anyone thinks I am advocating for electing (if it even counts these days) more repugs.
I am stating my opinion that "our" party can screw us much easier than the other one.
We need a party whose platform denounces corporatism, no matter what we call it.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
36. Fuck the government
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 12:07 AM
Mar 2014

for intentionally ruining the United States Post Office !!!!!!!!!!

When they achieve their goal of busting the union of the United States Post Office, it will be game over !!!!

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