Officials Release New Last Words for Missing Malaysia Flight
Source: NBC News
Officials have revised the account of the last words that came from the cockpit of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 the latest about-face in the ever-shifting investigation into the jet's disappearance.
The Malaysian Department of Civil Aviation said Monday that the last communication with the air traffic controller was "Good night, Malaysian three seven zero."
Weeks earlier, officials reported the last words were: "Alright, good night."
The cause of the discrepancy was unclear.
Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/officials-release-new-last-words-missing-malaysia-flight-n67871
3+ weeks and they've only figured this out now?
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)seven days with "experts" breaking down the latest last words from 370. Anderson Cooper will also build a raft similar to what Gilligan and the Skipper built to search for the wreckage. CNN's ratings will soar. It's just a sign that the end of days for journalism are upon us.
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)It is mighty suspicious that they can't find ANY trace of it. Finding the black box is one thing, but they can't even find a single trace or piece of it anywhere in that ocean. There would be odds and ends from the plane itself and stuff from inside it that float to the surface. It's a big ocean, but zero evidence? I'm still not buying it.
Lochloosa
(16,063 posts)Considering the weather in the search area it is completely plausible that no debris has been found.
We actually may never know what happened to the plane.
The average depth of the ocean is 3,890 m (12,762 ft). Its deepest point is Diamantina Deep in Diamantina Trench, at 8,047 m (26,401 ft) deep; also sometimes considered is Sunda Trench, at a depth of 7,2587,725 m (23,81225,344 ft).[
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Remember that Modified P-51 race plane that crashed at the Reno air races awhile back? You can watch video clips of that crash on YouTube. The best of those clips show a complete, intact all-metal airplane smashing into the concrete ramp where spectators were seated in prime seating. One moment it's an airplane going about 400MPH - next minute it's reduced to dust - only the most minute bits still hinting that they'd been part of an airplane at one time.
OK, however hard it might be to grasp, the fact is that hitting the water at 4 or 500MPH is just like hitting concrete full on. However easy it is for a person to stick their hand into water, sticking your hand in at 400MPH is gonna obliterate your hand. The point being that if this plane hit with such ferocity, there could be little to nothing recognizable as having been part of a big hulking airliner.
"Ditching" a plane - making a controlled landing at around a hundred miles an hour or so - there'll be a recognizable hulk that sinks to the ocean floor for discovery and retrieval. Smacking the surface at several hundred miles per hour - they'll be lucky to find tiny bits.
7962
(11,841 posts)Then maybe they could understand how a plane could hit the Pentagon and there not be wings and such lying around. You can also watch video of an F-4 Phantom purposely sent into a concrete wall in a test and see the same thing; the plane just disappears.
Also, who hasnt been riding in a boat going maybe 30 mph and stuck their hand in the water? You feel that resistance instantly and that water feels hard. Imagine it at the 4-500mph you mention.
ETA: heres the clip I referenced
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)It's perfect for making our point - it's just that I thought the Reno clip was more recent and therefor recollectable. Thanks!
Mika
(17,751 posts)Below cruising altitudes large plane airliners top speed is about 1/2 that.
The Reno plane and the vid you are commenting on are race/fighter planes designed for high speed at low altitudes. Boeing 777's aren't.
But diving straight down - out of control? There was that four-engined jetliner that crashed in California some years ago - after someone had shot the crew. It was purported to have gone supersonic in it's plunge earthward. Nothing was left that looked like an aircraft. Only small fragments of passengers and craft scattered about a large crater.
Mika
(17,751 posts)Wings, tail, etc would have broken off, full-size, and other large pieces.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)And would not the resultant pieces have hit with sufficient ferocity? Look at the account of PSA Flight 1771. That 4-engined BAe-146 was estimated to have been intact and doing 770MPH in a near vertical dive when it hit near Cayucos CA.
7962
(11,841 posts)It didnt drop 100 miles away, it was 7000 ft 35 miles out then dropped to 2000 about 4 miles out. These planes are not going to come apart in that short length of time or I'd never get on one.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)is in the South Tower films, the airplane does NOT produce all the debris and explosions at point of impact.
the plant just disappears into building, intact, no wings falling off, etc.
The explosions and clouds were at the other end of the building,implying the "airplane" had flown in one side to the other.
PLUS
a solid nose cone protruded out the other side.
Mika
(17,751 posts)The vid you posted is of a small jet fighter.
Since you called some people "nuts", maybe you should check this ...
Pilots for 9/11 Truth: Airplane speed
7962
(11,841 posts)Doesnt mean they regularly fly at that speed. My car will go 140, but how long? Descending from altitude at an angle it is definitely possible for a short time.
Obviously these pilots dont even know Boeing's own specs for these planes, not to mention doubting that airliners hit the WTC.
The Pentagon crash had witnesses. Explain away the people who saw the plane. Explain away the damage done by the plane before it hit. Explain away the video that shows the plane coming in, albeit briefly.
A lot of pilots would also tell you they wouldnt have believed Capt Sullenberger couldve landed in the Hudson in one piece if they hadnt seen it happen.
Mika
(17,751 posts)I didn't post the vid for the 911 conspiracy theory, just the plane's capability.
7962
(11,841 posts)Plus, the WTC planes never got down to sea level, hitting hundreds of feet up. I know thats not a huge difference, but its still a good bit of air.
7962
(11,841 posts)I just dont know if it coudve gone North and not been seen on radar. And people mention Pakistan; they already have planes that a terrorist could steal or be given. Any of the old WW2 airports in the island areas would also need to be long enough and have fuel available. And no one see it. And no one get a call or text out. It'd be hard to hide a 777 with NO talk of it being heard anywhere. Of course, there could be talk thats been heard and the govt kept secret while "we" figure out what to do and how to find it. Maybe the government can still actually keep a secret.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)Although the planes' ACARS wasn't sending data it was still answering periodic interrogations (something like wi-fi or a cell phone handshaking with the network). By timing how long it took from when the ACARS satellite sent the handshake request to when the flight 370 ACARS transponder responded they were able to estimate a distance from the satellite at each handshake attempt. By plotting all of these circles on a map they came up with 2 possible courses, one south and one north. Next they were able to extract Doppler shift information from the satellite data, which indicated that the plane was likely traveling south. The planes ACARS transponder's final response wasn't a full handshake (possibly coming at the instant the plane crashed?), and after that there was nothing more.
There was a lot of work put in by some very smart engineers and scientists coming up with this, and in my opinion they know what they're doing. This was the work that finally gave the searchers a reasonably sized area to search. Unfortunately that part of the ocean has had horrible weather, and as has been mentioned is exceptionally deep.
The Stranger
(11,297 posts)Oh my fucking God!
Them damn Malay-shuns are hiding that plane!
Terrorism!
TERRORISM!
Psephos
(8,032 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Wasn't their flight 370? Why would they wish good night to themselves? Or did they just signed off as 370 after goodnight?
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)I admit I don't know much about how a plane would react to such a crash, and just thought there would be some trace of it left. If there is a good chance it completely disintegrated or landed intact but sank completely to the bottom, then I'll accept that. It just does not make sense to my brain at the moment I guess.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)I wish they would all keep quiet until they find concrete evidence. I can't even imagine what the families of passangers and crew must be going through
And yes, CNN is making me sick with their exploitation of conspiracy theories. Shut up until there are any new FACTS and evidence determined and collected.