Mormon leader outlines opposition to gay marriage

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Source: Associated Press

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — A top Mormon leader reiterated the church's opposition to gay marriage Saturday during the church's biannual general conference.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' stance on homosexuality has softened in recent years, but this marks the second consecutive conference in which leaders took time to emphasize the faith's insistence that marriage should be limited to unions between a man and a woman, as God created.

"While many governments and well-meaning individuals have redefined marriage, the Lord has not," said Neil L. Andersen of the Quorum of the Twelve. "He designated the purpose of marriage to go far beyond the personal satisfaction and fulfillment of adults, to more importantly, advancing the ideal setting for children to be born, reared and nurtured."

In the October 2013 church conference, Dallin H. Oaks of the Quorum said human laws cannot "make moral what God has declared immoral."


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[christx30]

1. Dear Mr. Andersen:

What non-Mormons do in their personal lives is none of your business. Feel free to set limits on your congregations, for people that are part of your faith. Let everyone else ignore you in peace. People that follow your religion voluntarily give up their freedom as part of joining. No one else has any obligation to give a crap about your opinion. Consenting adults have the right to do what they want. You stay out of it.

Chris

[theHandpuppet]

4. Ditto that!

[bravenak]

2. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors business.

Thou shalt mind thy own.
Racist church.

[Niceguy1]

3. and most Mormons

Consider suchx immoral, too

[Nye Bevan]

5. Not as bad as Islam, in which gays get stoned to death,

but still not good.

Today in most of the Islamic world homosexuality is not socially or legally accepted. In nine Muslim countries, Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, the UAE, and Yemen, homosexual activity carries the death penalty.[3][4][5][6]

Alternatively, same-sex sexual intercourse is legal in five Muslim-majority nations (Albania, Turkey, Bahrain, Jordan, and Mali). In Albania there have been discussions about legalizing same-sex marriage.[7][8] Homosexual relations between females is legal in Kuwait (but homosexual acts between males are illegal). Lebanon has had recent internal efforts to legalize homosexuality.[9] Even in regions were homosexuality is not illegal it is seen as a shame by most families,[who?] and privately executing the punishments required by Islamic law[which?] may be seen as morally justified.

Most Muslim-majority countries have opposed moves to progress LGBT rights at the United Nations, in the General Assembly and/or the UNHRC. However, Albania and Sierra Leone have signed a UN Declaration supporting LGBT rights.[10][11] OIC member-state Mozambique provides LGBT rights protections in law in the form of non-discrimination laws, and discussions on legally recognizing same-sex marriage have been held in the country.[12][13]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam

[Laughing Mirror]

6. Or back in the US, where Jesus would do the deed

according to the preaching of this church in Harlem:



http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2014/03/tomorrow-activists-to-picket-harlem.html#disqus_thread

[lorrac]

12. This was in Harlem????

Well, what does the bible say about children who bring shame to their families or are rebellious? Pretty much the same thing, right?

[greyl]

7. And it's not a "lesser of X evils" situation.

All salvationist religions and their dogma should be abandoned, imo.

[CreekDog]

16. Thank you for pointing this out, what would we do without you?

how on earth would we Americans be able to distinguish the most extreme forms of intolerance with the more standard forms of institutionalized bigotry that are common among conservative Christian denominations?

[Nye Bevan]

17. You're more than welcome! (nt)

[Trillo]

8. "The Natural Law Argument Against Procreation"

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In the above quote, religious-right columnist Tim Dunkin argues that we know homosexuality is immoral because of the physical and psychological harm that it causes. The lasting damage that gay people do to their bodies, he says, is proof that they’re misusing them in ways that God never intended.

Well, I think he’s onto something. The only thing is, I think he’s aiming at the wrong target. There’s a practice that indisputably causes far more harm, wreaks far more destruction on human bodies and minds, than homosexuality. That practice is heterosexual procreation, and I hope that sensible, right-thinking Christians across the land will join with me in urging Congress to pass a law banning this wicked and sinful act.

Do you doubt that procreation is against natural law? Well, just consider this evidence.

First of all, there’s the hymen. This membrane, which is a completely natural part of women’s bodies, covers and protects the vaginal opening – clear evidence of God’s benevolent design and his intention not to permit anything to pass through. When the hymen is torn, often during a woman’s first act of intercourse, the usual result is pain and blood, which is tangible proof of the harm done by disobeying God’s will. Why, some women have to have surgery just to make it possible for them to have sex! What clearer proof could there be that we’re misusing our bodies and going against natural law when we do it?

more...

[alp227]

9. The best way to make America more secular?

Religious leaders like Andersen insisting on the wrong side of history.

PS: Warren Jeffs was the polygamist abuser. Jim Jeffords is a former US senator from Vermont...don't confuse the two!

[Treant]

10. Then Pay Tax

Or realize that your views can't be the law (and couldn't be even if you paid taxes, but at least you'd be free to go political on the rest of us).

Those are the church's only two options.

Either they have the courage of their convictions or the tax breaks are more important. I suspect I know which one will win.

[Exultant Democracy]

11. Didn't their god tell them they had to have multiple wives to get to the good heaven

and then they changed it because of pressure from human laws and their wish to join the union.

I guess you just gotta have faith to swallow what they are shoveling.

[Arugula Latte]

13. This from the same church that banned black people from full participation until 1978.

Religion = scourge of humanity.

[sakabatou]

14. Not surprised since they drew up the Prop 8 in CA

[blkmusclmachine]

15. In Utah, marriage is between a man and a woman, and another woman, and another woman, and another wo

and another woman, and another woman, and another woman, and another ...

[obxnacy]

18. hypocrites

if you don't like gay marriage, then don't have one. easy as that. who has the nerve to say to two consenting adults who they will love and want to marry? oh, those intolerant of anything or anyone who isn't like them maybe?
i'd like to see how many mormon marriages are so wonderful.

[closeupready]

19. Superstitious nonsense.

Has ZERO place in setting government policy.

[aurelio17]

20. But there can be polygamy in the afterlife.

It's legal in the Celestial realm, innit?