Russia warns of civil war if Ukraine uses force to quell eastern revolts

[okaawhatever]

Source: CNN

Kiev (CNN) -- Russia warned Tuesday that any use of force in Ukraine's eastern region could lead to civil war, as Kiev seeks to regain control after pro-Moscow uprisings in three cities.

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Russia's Foreign Ministry said reports that the protesters are facing a crackdown by Ukrainian authorities are of particular concern.
"We are calling for the immediate cessation of any military preparations, which could lead to civil war," it said in a statement on its website.

The ministry alleged that what it called "American experts from the private military organization Greystone," disguised as soldiers, as well as militants from the Ukrainian far-right group Right Sector, had joined Ukrainian forces preparing for the crackdown in the country's east.

Secretary of State John Kerry said Tuesday that Russian forces and special agents have been behind what he called the "chaos" in eastern Ukraine in the past 24 hours. Kerry described the developments as "more than deeply disturbing" and said they amounted to what could be a "contrived pretext for military intervention just as we saw in Crimea."

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Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/08/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/

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Greystone has denied the claim that it is involved.

The private security and aviation firm Greystone Ltd. denied Russian allegations that it had sent personnel to Ukraine to help Kiev's military prepare for a crackdown on the country's pro-Russian residents.
In a phone call with Foreign Policy, a Greystone spokesperson said "the company does not currently nor do we have any plan to send employees to Ukraine."

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/04/08/greystone_denies_russian_accusations_of_meddling_in_ukraine

Confirmation also in Washington Post

[cosmicone]

1. The CIA coup seems more and more like a bad idea with each passing day. n/t

[okaawhatever]

2. Oh stop with your incessant conspiracy theories. Have you read the Russian plan for this?

You seem to forget some very important things here. Ukraine has had majority support for the EU agreement for years. With Crimea out of the picture that support % is higher. While they've had a majority, it was usually in the 50-60% range. What the polls also showed was that those in the East didn't want to sign Russia's trade deal either. They wanted to be independent. Only the Crimea region showed majority support for joining Russia's trade union.

The Russian report states that the EU deal is popular and that Yanukovych told them if he didn't sign there would likely be another Orange Revolution.

http://gazeta.zn.ua/internal/russkiy-plan-osmyslennyy-i-besposchadnyy-_.html

[OKNancy]

3. I trust John Kerry, not the propaganda from the Kremlin

[Tarheel_Dem]

4. I swear, some of you folks belong in a CT dungeon, and never let out.

Don't be a wingnut (right-wing or extreme-fringe).

Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office. Teabaggers, Neo-cons, Dittoheads, Paulites, Freepers, Birthers, and right-wingers in general are not welcome here. Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.

[arewenotdemo]

6. So Noam Chomsky or Dennis Kucinich are not welcome here?

[cprise]

15. Or most of the commentators on Truthout, Commondreams, Alternet

...and a very long list of others.

Also note the incessant blaring of CT about Russia, as if all/any bad thing can automatically be attributed to them, and made to stick with repetition instead of evidence.

If these people weren't lazy bigots, they would give a damn about the US government spending billions on Ukranian activist organizations, and the specific escalations between police and rioters through February. When these subjects come up, however, its ostrich time.

[Cayenne]

24. +1

[EX500rider]

25. "the US government spending billions on Ukranian activist organizations"

Links to us spending "billions" on Ukrainian activists organizations?

[Jaime Bueno]

26. +1

[uhnope]

9. They are right wing Russians, haters of democracy, Putin worshipers

and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one sick of them

[Tarheel_Dem]

17. There's a faction here who will embrace anyone, no matter how vile, as long as they're an enemy...

of the US, and especially this president.

[uhnope]

19. I'm learning that. It plays into the hands of RWNJs who says progressives are anti-American

That's one reason I go against those types

[dionysus]

12. you leave the comrades alone, or i'll challenge you to some boxin!

[Tarheel_Dem]

16. !!!

[penultimate]

7. But Russian coup seems to like a brilliant idea these days.

[dionysus]

11. .

[mysuzuki2]

5. it is fairly clear to me that czar vlad

intends to grab eastern ukraine.

[AAO]

8. I think I speak for many of us by saying: Fuck you, Putin.

[hrmjustin]

10. +1

[AAO]

13. To you sir I say a grateful Hurrah!

[Tarheel_Dem]

20. +2

[freshwest]

14. The plot thickens. I wonder what is really going on in the world while we read this. n/t

[Tommy_Carcetti]

18. Again, why is Russia threatening civil war......

....in a country other than its own?

Jeez, the audacity of Putin and Co. And some people will inevitably lap it all up.

[dipsydoodle]

21. Failed spin attempt.

OP says "warned : not "threatened"

[Tommy_Carcetti]

22. It doesn't matter.

Russia is acting as if Ukraine were part of its territory and that Ukraine's problems are Russia's problems.

It's the classic Russian paternalism over Ukrainian affairs that's been going on for centuries.

[Galliano Stinger]

23. This is the trigger.

Everything will be ok if eastern Crimea can calm down. Otherwise there is a big problem.