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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:31 AM Apr 2014

du Pont heir didn't go to court-ordered clinic

Source: Wilmington News Journal

A du Pont heir who raped his daughter was supposed to complete an intensive treatment program at an inpatient psychiatric clinic in Massachusetts as a condition of a sentence that allowed him to avoid prison time.

But he never did, court records show.

Superior Court Judge Jan R. Jurden ordered probation for Robert H. Richards IV in February 2009, on the condition that he be accepted for treatment at the expensive McLean Hospital near Boston, according to a transcript of the sentencing. Jurden agreed to probation only after the prosecutor argued the state typically would demand prison time in such child abuse cases, but was willing to accept probation because of the therapy Richards would receive at the out-of-state clinic.

"If the court is not inclined to send him to the Massachusetts program, then the state would be asking for some period of jail that the court would feel would be appropriate under the circumstances," prosecutor Renee Hrivnak said during the Feb. 6, 2009 hearing.

More at link

Read more: http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2014/04/08/du-pont-heir-finish-treatment-records-show/7475045/



Looks like trouble is headed Mr. Richard's way...
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du Pont heir didn't go to court-ordered clinic (Original Post) kristopher Apr 2014 OP
Treatment is for the little people. n/t safeinOhio Apr 2014 #1
If only. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #10
He wouldn't do well in clinic, I hear. Scootaloo Apr 2014 #2
All this happened 5 years ago adieu Apr 2014 #3
i don't have a link... druidity33 Apr 2014 #7
From the op link. .. pipoman Apr 2014 #8
I had no idea the case was old davidpdx Apr 2014 #15
So, he got no punishment and no treatment??? WhoWoodaKnew Apr 2014 #4
Hey, he's stinking rich... MrScorpio Apr 2014 #5
A "stinker" in my mind is, like an insolent child, pipoman Apr 2014 #9
Not nearly as much trouble as pipoman Apr 2014 #6
Just wait. Wait until corporate rule gets really ramped up. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #11
Looks like trouble is headed Mr. Richard's way -- yea sure. it means theyll re-schedule another leftyohiolib Apr 2014 #12
And it seems he had sex with his son too. fasttense Apr 2014 #13
Yep CFLDem Apr 2014 #16
"And it seems he had raped with his son too." Scruffy Rumbler Apr 2014 #20
Trouble? Doubt it... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #14
du Pont should be in jail. Beacool Apr 2014 #17
Disgusting. As if the natural habitat of black men is jail and they must be returned there. freshwest Apr 2014 #25
The crime happened in NY and Mr. Fleming was thousands of miles away in FL. Beacool Apr 2014 #31
Hope he sues every last one of those who framed him within an inch of their life. freshwest Apr 2014 #32
Is anyone really surprised? Daemonaquila Apr 2014 #18
Response to "public outrage" CMHSTS Apr 2014 #19
welcome to DU. Wow are you serious? The justice system over there...wow. nt alp227 Apr 2014 #22
If this guy wasn't wealthy, he would have gone to prison.. olddad56 Apr 2014 #21
I'm assuming he saw the "You Must Be This Tall To Enter The Clinic" sign at the door and went home Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #23
Well, we can't have the same rules for everyone, now can we? Galliano Stinger Apr 2014 #24
Law is to keep the plebes in line, it isn't for Ceaser or The Second Stone Apr 2014 #26
Of course he didn't ! UltraRich, Untreated & Free to rape again lunasun Apr 2014 #27
To be fair he has a raging case of Afluenza complicated with Fuckyouitis...... marble falls Apr 2014 #28
A new movie about another du Pont heir is coming out this year bananas Apr 2014 #29
Guilt over what their manufacturing facilities did to people, the environment and war profiteering? freshwest Apr 2014 #34
Thanks for the heads up; it is a fascinating story and a really good cast Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #35
Long history of crazies in that family underpants Apr 2014 #30
Now the DA needs to get of their asses and VOP him. nt msanthrope Apr 2014 #33
 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
3. All this happened 5 years ago
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:29 AM
Apr 2014

What is the current status with this POS? Is he even still alive? In prison? Out free to diddle is daughter?

druidity33

(6,445 posts)
7. i don't have a link...
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 06:50 AM
Apr 2014

but i remember reading this is all coming out as part of a lawsuit brought by his ex-wife. I would guess he's still alive and rich if he's getting sued...



 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
8. From the op link. ..
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 06:56 AM
Apr 2014
Richards, whose probation will be in effect until February 2017, has never been charged with violating probation, although a Sept. 2010 progress report by probation officer Stuart B. Moskowitz said Richards' ex-wife "indicated he had been harassing her on the phone'' and not abiding by an agreement to call once a week, on Friday after 9 p.m., "when the children would be in bed.'' Moskowitz wrote that Richards' progress, 19 months into his sentence, was "slow and limited.''

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
15. I had no idea the case was old
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 09:10 AM
Apr 2014

It looks like he's still on probation. I would have thought he'd have his probation revoked with the stuff he's pulled.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
5. Hey, he's stinking rich...
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 06:48 AM
Apr 2014

And just a plain stinker too.

We all know that the rules are different for his kind in this country.

Prison is for the little people.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
9. A "stinker" in my mind is, like an insolent child,
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 06:59 AM
Apr 2014

No, Richards is a child rapist who owns judges, prosecutors, probation officers, and police.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
6. Not nearly as much trouble as
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 06:49 AM
Apr 2014

anyone else who didn't have enough money to buy off the judge. Disgraceful it is, the good judge should be subject to public ridicule until she does the right thing and revoke his probation.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
11. Just wait. Wait until corporate rule gets really ramped up.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:38 AM
Apr 2014

Probably within this decade we will consider 2014 as "the good old days".

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
13. And it seems he had sex with his son too.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:41 AM
Apr 2014

What a perverted justice system. Kind of like feudalism where the king, royals and lords could do just about anything they wanted, especially to serfs. The laws did not apply to the inherited uber rich.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
17. du Pont should be in jail.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 09:53 AM
Apr 2014

They just released a man who spent more than 24 years in jail for a murder that he didn't commit. Not only he didn't kill the victim, he was at Disney World in FL when the crime was committed. He still got convicted and had several appeals rejected. How the heck did that happen? Oh yeah, he wasn't a rich white heir, he was a poor black guy.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. Disgusting. As if the natural habitat of black men is jail and they must be returned there.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:20 PM
Apr 2014

Guilty at birth by virtue of skin color and always out of place anywhere except kept in shackles. Guilty of what crime and in what place, one might ask, but we already know the answer. From the traders who broke the financial system to the ones who incite wars, to the authors of petty corruption to sexual predators, they get a pass.



Beacool

(30,247 posts)
31. The crime happened in NY and Mr. Fleming was thousands of miles away in FL.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 02:12 PM
Apr 2014

He still got convicted of murder. It IS disgusting.

Here's the story.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/08/justice/new-york-wrongful-conviction/

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
32. Hope he sues every last one of those who framed him within an inch of their life.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 03:30 PM
Apr 2014

And if he'd lost his in prison, or given the death penalty in some other state, what would have been said?

Just another worthless killer who won't be on the public dime, kept alive all those years after committing murder.

Since this is today's news, it ought to be an OP, but it'd sink like a stone anyway.

I imagine the hell his family went through all this time, knowing he was innocent. That their words and evidence were dismissed repeatedly. And this man, who went to prison, what it did to him. He lost the most productive years of his life, but that's not all he lost.

It reminds me of this video, and it's time that something be done:

Daniel Beaty... Knock, Knock. Who's there? We Are!

The fierce urgency of now and the long game. Daniel Beaty - Knock, Knock on Def Jam Poetry:



http://www.democraticunderground.com/11876398

to Sheshe2


Centuries of racism. No, as Hank Aaron said today about the way Obama is still treated, it's not over. America needs to face up to what has been and is being done by Atwater's game.

Thanks, Beacool for posting on this travesty of justice.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
18. Is anyone really surprised?
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 10:07 AM
Apr 2014

The only reason trouble might come this asshat's way is if public outrage scares the judge more than not staying bought off.

CMHSTS

(1 post)
19. Response to "public outrage"
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 10:42 AM
Apr 2014

This story never even made the local news back when it was originally in court. It came out when the lawsuit was filed by the Mother. Since then our local paper has revealed just how many of those sworn to protect failed this little girl. You commented about "public outrage" and "scaring the judge"...BOTH OF THOSE THINGS HAPPENED...and the states response?...they added extra security FOR THE JUDGE!!

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
21. If this guy wasn't wealthy, he would have gone to prison..
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 11:32 AM
Apr 2014

where he could have experienced rape first hand.

 
24. Well, we can't have the same rules for everyone, now can we?
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:06 PM
Apr 2014

One set of rules for the patricians, and one for the plebians.

marble falls

(57,055 posts)
28. To be fair he has a raging case of Afluenza complicated with Fuckyouitis......
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:34 PM
Apr 2014

so keep him away from children.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
29. A new movie about another du Pont heir is coming out this year
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:44 PM
Apr 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxcatcher

Foxcatcher is an upcoming American drama film, directed by Bennett Miller, and starring Steve Carell, Channing Tatum, and Mark Ruffalo. The screenplay was written by E. Max Frye and Dan Futterman, based on Olympic wrestling gold medalist Mark Schultz's autobiography.

Premise

The story of Olympic Wrestling Champion Mark Schultz and how paranoid schizophrenic John du Pont killed his brother, Olympic Champion Dave Schultz.

Cast

Steve Carell as John Eleuthère du Pont
Channing Tatum as Mark Schultz, Dave's younger brother. Tatum stated that the role was "the hardest acting challenge I've had to date".[1]
Mark Ruffalo as Dave Schultz, du Pont's longtime friend and an Olympic gold medal-winning wrestler.
Vanessa Redgrave as du Pont's mother[2]
Sienna Miller as Nancy Schultz, Dave's wife
Anthony Michael Hall as du Pont's assistant[1]

<snip>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Eleuth%C3%A8re_du_Pont

John Eleuthère du Pont (November 22, 1938 – December 9, 2010) was a convicted murderer, an American multimillionaire and member of the prominent du Pont family.[1][2] He was an ornithologist and conchologist, publishing several books on birds; a philatelist, coach, and sports enthusiast. As a philanthropist, he founded and directed the Delaware Museum of Natural History, which opened in 1972. He also contributed to Villanova University and other institutions.

<snip>

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
34. Guilt over what their manufacturing facilities did to people, the environment and war profiteering?
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 04:09 PM
Apr 2014

Not much different from the rest of the filthy rich. It's possible the old rich have the angst of dissonance from educations that tell them that their money and their deeds don't match.

The new rich, most of the Libertarian and the GOP, have no such qualms. And likely, never will. They've made a religion of greed.

Seeing the report on this thread of the family gifts to Delaware, it's obvious some in the state feel they owe the DuPont heir some slack for what their family means to them...

It'll be interesting to see if his living accomodations change, but it's not likely. These social groups fight to keep from being treated like the little people. They know what would happen if all their dirty laundry, not just in sexual matters, was exposed to the light of day.

underpants

(182,717 posts)
30. Long history of crazies in that family
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 01:57 PM
Apr 2014

And the Coors. Basically ever other generation in both families almost destroyed their legacy and then the next generation saved it. This went on for several cycles.

Back in the 90's I went on a corporate outing to Montpelier (James Madison's home) that had been inhabited by a du Pont heiress. She was filthy rich but was continually without running water, electricity, and heat we were told by the guide. The place was about to undergo a renovation (completed a few years ago) but it was a dump. Missing plaster in most of the kitchen and there was a parlor that looked like a bad movie set of a rinkydink nasty disco. Disco ballS, red velvet couches, and checkerboard floors.

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