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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 11:54 AM Apr 2014

Window opens on secret camp within Guantanamo

Last edited Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

Attorney James Connell has visited his client inside the secret Guantanamo prison complex known as Camp 7 only once, taken in a van with covered windows on a circuitous trek to disguise the route on the scrub brush-and-cactus covered military base.

Connell is allowed to say virtually nothing about what he saw in the secret camp where the most notorious terror suspects in U.S. custody are held except that it is unlike any detention facility he's encountered.

"It's much more isolating than any other facility that I have known," the lawyer says. "I've done cases from the Virginia death row and Texas death row and these pretrial conditions are much more isolating."

The Camp 7 prison unit is so shrouded in secrecy that its location on the U.S. base in Cuba is classified and officials refuse to discuss it. Now, two separate but related events are forcing it into the limelight.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/window-opens-secret-camp-within-guantanamo-151856167.html

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Window opens on secret camp within Guantanamo (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 OP
link doesn't seem to be working... hlthe2b Apr 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #4
link scrubbed? grasswire Apr 2014 #2
Put me in charge of the next round of base closures and this place is no longer a problem. A Simple Game Apr 2014 #3
What??? Plucketeer Apr 2014 #6
Here is a working link Omaha Steve Apr 2014 #5
Strange AP no working Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #7
Lawyer Says Guantanamo’s Secret ‘Camp 7’ Violates Geneva Convention OnyxCollie Apr 2014 #8
...not just the Geneva Convention, bvar22 Apr 2014 #9
If Reinhard Tristan Eugen Heydrich and Heinrich Luitpold Himmler were alive today warrant46 Apr 2014 #10
"There's no way to explain the security measures ..... they must be hiding something." GoneFishin Apr 2014 #11
There will come a day, a very dark day... Javaman Apr 2014 #12
K&R Solly Mack Apr 2014 #13

Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
3. Put me in charge of the next round of base closures and this place is no longer a problem.
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:03 PM
Apr 2014

Why do we even have a base there, just because we can?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
6. What???
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:21 PM
Apr 2014

You mean your representatives haven't asked you how you feel about these offshore detention establishments? Don't feel too bad - mine haven't asked me either!

Of course, we "offshore" everything else (including revenue sources), so I'd say Guano-tanamo is in keeping with this country's modus operandi. How long before it's privatized???

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
8. Lawyer Says Guantanamo’s Secret ‘Camp 7’ Violates Geneva Convention
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:30 PM
Apr 2014

Lawyer Says Guantanamo’s Secret ‘Camp 7’ Violates Geneva Convention
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/08/lawyer-challenges-guantanamos-camp-7.html

Last week Connell, who represents Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's nephew, was finally allowed to spend twelve hours inside Camp 7, the ultra-secret area of the prison that houses "high-value detainees." The camp's location on the base is classified, and Connell wasn't allowed to see how he got there. He's also prohibited from discussing exactly what he saw, but he said it amounts to illegal pretrial punishment. He plans to file a motion challenging the conditions, which he says violate the standards established by the Geneva Conventions. Chief prosecutor Brig. Gen. Mark Martins denied his claim, saying, "We take very seriously humane standards."

...

The US doesn't torture, but you can't see what goes on in Camp 7, 'cause it's secret.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
9. ...not just the Geneva Convention,
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 02:41 PM
Apr 2014

but also violates the accepted standards against Cruel & Unusual Punishment.
AFAIC, this type of imposed isolation is a form of torture.


You will know them by their WORKS.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
10. If Reinhard Tristan Eugen Heydrich and Heinrich Luitpold Himmler were alive today
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 02:58 PM
Apr 2014

They would give the last 2 American regimes a couple of awards for following an ancient and well seasoned tradition of torture.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
11. "There's no way to explain the security measures ..... they must be hiding something."
Sun Apr 13, 2014, 07:29 PM
Apr 2014

My exact thoughts. They are keeping the haystack around precisely so that they can hide a needle in it. The fact that Camp 7 is super-duper top secret begs the question of what other ultra-secret facilities are there stashed at Guantanamo, and what the hell are they hiding there?

"There's no way to explain the security measures that they use from the perspective of the safety of the guards or the safety of the detainees, beyond that they must be hiding something."

Javaman

(62,493 posts)
12. There will come a day, a very dark day...
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 10:09 AM
Apr 2014

that the US will pay for this type of behavior.

all empires fall, but when the US does, it will make Rome look like a walk in the park.

I sincerely hope that I'm not alive to witness it.

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