U.N. Security Council to Meet Sunday on Ukraine

[jakeXT]

Source: Associated Press

(UNITED NATIONS) — The U.N. Security Council has called an emergency meeting at Russia’s request to discuss the growing crisis in Ukraine.

Russia’s U.N. mission sent a text message to reporters saying a closed meeting of the Security Council would begin at 8 p.m. Sunday (0000 GMT). The Russian mission said it had requested the meeting.

The President of the Security Council confirmed in an email that members have been invited to attend “informal consultations” on Ukraine Sunday evening.

The meeting comes as the new Ukrainian government declared it would deploy armed forces to quash an increasingly bold pro-Russian insurgency in eastern Ukraine

Read more: http://time.com/60915/u-n-security-council-to-meet-sunday-on-ukraine/

[William769]

1. The Emergency in Ukraine is fucking Russia!

How fucking stupid does one have to be not to see this? And if it's not stupidity It's a fellow propagandist comrade.

I swear they must have hired Baghdad Bob.

[TwilightGardener]

5. Their go-to tactic is to call for "emergency" talks and meetings WHILE they're in

the process of conducting an invasion. Buys them time and distraction, and then by the time the complete charade of talks and meetings are over, they have a fait accompli. I wish John Kerry would tell them to go fuck themselves and discontinue any engagement until they pull their troops away from the border and remove their special forces in balaclavas from Ukraine.

[Igel]

2. Perhaps Russia will have the same POV Lavrov announced last week.

The only appropriate, legitimate sanctions against Russia and the only legitimate steps any country should take must first be approved by the UN Security Council.

This he said with a straight face. He says everything with a straight face.

He didn't bother to point out that Russia has a veto on the UNSC, so what he said was that the only legitimate sanctions or actions against Russia are those that Russia itself approves.

[jakeXT]

3. Not voting no on Libya was their last mistake there /nt

[TwilightGardener]

4. I predict the beginning of larger amounts of US military aid, and possibly arms,

very shortly. I had the feeling that the trigger on US/NATO arms and increased aid would be Russia pulling another Crimea in the mainland--it's coming to pass now.

[cosmicone]

7. Dream on .. no one wants war

except a few on DU and John McCain.

[TwilightGardener]

9. Has nothing to do with wanting a war. But Russia keeps invading and destabilizing.

Putin feels he can't allow Ukraine to ever get on steady footing with Western aid and trading relationships. He can't allow a truly free election. He has to keep trying to knock them on their ass over and over, create unrest and violence, and/or invade until they give up and turn back to Russia. Anything that increases western appeal among Russia's neighbors (and within Russia itself) is very threatening.

[cosmicone]

10. Did Russia go to war because we staged a coup

in Chile or Bolivia or Guatemala or Philippines?

We won't get involved because it is too dangerous for both us and them. We lose nothing if Putin gobbles up a third of Ukraine but the downside is enormous.

[TwilightGardener]

11. We won't go to war with Russia unless Russia actually tries to attack a NATO member.

But we'll help Ukraine. We pledged to help them maintain their sovereignty in the 90's.

[cosmicone]

12. Helping Ukraine will be an escalation

on the part of the US. There is no treaty that requires the US to get involved in Ukraine whereas Russia has ample legal standing to intervene if Ukrainian military attacks ethnic Russians in the East.

Putin is too smart to invade a NATO country. He has purposely played it at sub-simmering levels in Georgia and Ukraine. By taking two small provinces, he has put such fear in the minds of pro-West Georgians that they will never think of joining any Western alliance for a long long time. The same is at work in Ukraine and we just have to watch it with stoic eyes and let it happen.

[TwilightGardener]

17. It's not going to stay "sub-simmering".

Putin's the one who's really afraid of war--that's why the sneakiness, deception, masks, crowing about not firing a shot, etc. He's seeing what he can get away with before the world smacks his pee pee down. And cut the bullshit with "attacks on ethnic Russians". Propagandists don't even believe that crap anymore, it's laughable at this point, and still not a reason to invade.

[okaawhatever]

16. Give it a rest. We didn't stage coups in those countries. You're reading too much of your

Socialist/Communist media outlets.

[amandabeech]

18. Cosmicone's posts are comic,

but in the past we have staged coups in those countries. We seem to be getting out of that business, thank heavens, and I sincerely hope that the trend continues.

[cosmicone]

20. We just staged a coup in Ukraine for heaven's sake!! n/t

[amandabeech]

21. Really, you are too funny! n/t

[cosmicone]

19. Hahahahaha

Perhaps you're watching Faux news and listening to Rush Limpballs.

We did stage coups in all of those countries .. and I didn't even mention Greece, Iran, El Salvador, Brazil and Paraguay. We had a puppet government for years in Vietnam and we were instrumental in deposing the government in Cambodia with a resultant rise of Pol Pot. We were behind a coup in Pakistan that deposed democratically elected Zulfikar Ali Bhutto to be replaced by General Zia ul Haq because he was helping us against the Russians in Afghanistan.

All this is well documented and if you did a little web research you'll find it to be true.

[Bosonic]

6. Should be interesting

Fact Sheet
Office of the Spokesperson
Washington, DC
April 13, 2014

Russian Fiction the Sequel: 10 More False Claims About Ukraine

1. Russia Claims: Russian agents are not active in Ukraine.

Fact: The Ukrainian Government has arrested more than a dozen suspected Russian intelligence agents in recent weeks, many of whom were armed at the time of arrest. In the first week of April 2014, the Government of Ukraine had information that Russian GRU officers were providing individuals in Kharkiv and Donetsk with advice and instructions on conducting protests, capturing and holding government buildings, seizing weapons from the government buildings’ armories, and redeploying for other violent actions. On April 12, armed pro-Russian militants seized government buildings in a coordinated and professional operation conducted in six cities in eastern Ukraine. Many were outfitted in bullet-proof vests, camouflage uniforms with insignia removed, and carrying Russian-designed weapons like AK-74s and Dragunovs. These armed units, some wearing black and orange St. George’s ribbons associated with Russian Victory Day celebrations, raised Russian and separatist flags over seized buildings and have called for referendums on secession and union with Russia. These operations are strikingly similar to those used against Ukrainian facilities during Russia’s illegal military intervention in Crimea in late February and its subsequent occupation.

... etc

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2014/04/224759.htm

[cosmicone]

8. It is a great tactic on the part of Russia

to take the diplomatic route and tell the West to call off their fascist/neonazi dogs before they get annihilated. sort of "don't blame us later for something you started"

Ukraine has two logical options 1. Let the Russian majority provinces secede and join Russia without hindrance or 2. bring Yanukovytch back and go back to the pre-coup status in order to abide by the three way EU-Russia-Ukraine deal.

I'd bet that the fear of Russia is so great that the so called Ukrainian army would run away rather than fight even with weapons aid. The West will have to put boots on the ground in order to defend the neonazi/fascist territory and there are currently no treaties that would make such an involvement legal.

[joshcryer]

14. Putin is doing this as a delay tactic.

The transitional government in Ukraine will have the buildings back by tomorrow. The eastern pro Russians don't have popular support. They have only been able to pull out a few thousand protesters at a given time, in stark contrast the protesters in Kiev who marched by the hundreds of thousands and had tens of thousands at any given point. The vast majority of whom were only armed with sticks and stones. Again the contrast is clear as these fascists in eastern Ukraine are armed to the teeth.

[Bosonic]

13. On in 9

http://webtv.un.org/live-now/watch/security-council-the-situation-in-ukraine/3086187116001

http://webtv.un.org/live-now/watch/security-council-media-stakeouts-ukraine/2179486580001

[another_liberal]

15. It's about damn time too!

This is getting way too ugly. Using tanks against people who just want to vote about their future is disgraceful.

[amandabeech]

22. Do you expect that the Security Council will direct Ukraine to not put down civil unrest

within its own borders? You actually expect China to go along with that?

[another_liberal]

23. I would expect it to act just as it did in regard to President Yanukovich.

When he threatened to use military to clear violent protesters out of government buildings in Kiev, all we heard from the UN, NATO, the EU and the USA was what a horrible thing that would be to do to his "own people," and how such actions against protesters would be followed by crippling sanctions against Yanukovich's government. Now you want to support the same use of military against protesters in east Ukraine?

[amandabeech]

24. Well, nothing happened at the Security Council.

Al Jazeera reports that the sentiment was for Ukraine and against Russia.

Whatever Putin does now he does without the blessing of the UN.

[another_liberal]

25. My point is that for the UN to do nothing now is hypocritical.

After having threatened President Yanukovich with economic ruin for just suggesting he might have to use Ukrainian military to stop people burning down government buildings in Kiev, the UN must act to restrain the current interim government, which has already deployed troops in several eastern cities.

[amandabeech]

27. The person who threatened Ukraine with economic ruin is Putin.

He threatened Ukraine into accepting the Russian proposal and turning down the EU affiliation agreement.

You are the only "news source" who is reporting that the Ukrainian interim government has deployed troops in eastern Ukrainian cities.

Good day.

[CFLDem]

26. Surprise surprise