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hue

(4,949 posts)
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 08:48 AM Apr 2014

Bundy Ranch 'Militia' Considered Using Women As Human Shield

Source: TPM LIVEWIRE

Updated 8:34 AM EDT, Tue Apr 15 2014


It appears that the anti-government activists protesting the Bureau of Land Management's actions against a Nevada cattle rancher were considering using women as a human shield if a gun battle had erupted during the standoff.

The Blaze, the conservative news site affiliated with Glenn Beck, flagged the comments made Monday by Richard Mack, identified as a former Arizona sheriff who had joined more than 1,000 other protesters alongside Cliven Bundy, who has been feuding with BLM over his use of federal land to graze his cattle.

“We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front,” Mack said in a Fox News clip pulled by The Blaze. “If they are going to start shooting, it’s going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers.”

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Bundy Ranch 'Militia' Considered Using Women As Human Shield (Original Post) hue Apr 2014 OP
Think he is mistaken about nykym Apr 2014 #1
Imagine if the militia men were Black randys1 Apr 2014 #52
I accept your offer, MyNameGoesHere Apr 2014 #2
Do you all see the irony here ? Trust Buster Apr 2014 #3
Not really ironic! atreides1 Apr 2014 #10
They probably don't consider women Helen Borg Apr 2014 #13
That was my first thought Stargazer09 Apr 2014 #19
Want to see some real f*cking idiots? Read the comments in one of the articles. kysrsoze Apr 2014 #22
Here is another link...the sheriff in a 10 min audio interview snappyturtle Apr 2014 #30
Wow, you're not kidding! bitchkitty Apr 2014 #32
herp derp spartan women.. frylock Apr 2014 #36
LOL @ herp derp spartan women. bitchkitty Apr 2014 #49
They are idiots! lark Apr 2014 #42
women kardonb Apr 2014 #43
You know what's even worse? Brigid Apr 2014 #4
I would not be surprised Stargazer09 Apr 2014 #21
all of these assholes should be in jail, every last one of them. bowens43 Apr 2014 #5
Is that a Mormon tactic atreides1 Apr 2014 #6
How bad is it when Glenn Beck Kelvin Mace Apr 2014 #7
Well, obviously cattle are worth more than women in their eyes.... Katashi_itto Apr 2014 #8
From watching the video shown over and over again DURHAM D Apr 2014 #9
Silver Lining ;) fredamae Apr 2014 #11
the american taliban leftyohiolib Apr 2014 #12
Just like the true cowards they are. nt kelliekat44 Apr 2014 #14
Maybe the women volunteered, because LynnTTT Apr 2014 #15
Ha! Stargazer09 Apr 2014 #23
Some chattel is more valuable than other chattel Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #16
this isnt going to end well allan01 Apr 2014 #17
Nothing shows the world how brave and just you are randr Apr 2014 #18
K&R cantbeserious Apr 2014 #20
What's the big deal? cosmicone Apr 2014 #24
not sure but I think they are a Mormon family & so have a huge number of 'human shields' Sunlei Apr 2014 #25
Hmmm, let's see...women, cattle...women, cattle... KansDem Apr 2014 #26
Chickenshit motherfuckers. No surprise, there. (nt) Paladin Apr 2014 #27
They keep wanting to instigate a Waco or Ruby Ridge BumRushDaShow Apr 2014 #28
This ^ geardaddy Apr 2014 #39
brave little boys with big guns oldandhappy Apr 2014 #29
. . .big guns to replace teeny weenies. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2014 #31
giggle! oldandhappy Apr 2014 #33
As the women gathered, they began to sing packman Apr 2014 #34
Hopefully only the menopausals. Better bullet-catchers, can't breed anymore. TwilightGardener Apr 2014 #35
They are the Talibund. kairos12 Apr 2014 #37
Macho he-men. Were they wearing Depends, too? marble falls Apr 2014 #38
MISOGYNY MANifested! Mack's "great idea"!! hue Apr 2014 #40
Conservatives are cowards. alfredo Apr 2014 #41
Women in the crossfire... StarryNite Apr 2014 #44
It wasn't just the women, it was the children too... StarryNite Apr 2014 #45
Shows what they really mean when they say "Think of the women and children" suffragette Apr 2014 #46
You know maybe the next time nykym Apr 2014 #54
That could get complicated... StarryNite Apr 2014 #55
Home of the "Brave"??? underpants Apr 2014 #47
So even with all those guns, the Bundy crowd still had no stones? Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #48
Using women as human shields Rocknrule Apr 2014 #50
This is the American Taliban randys1 Apr 2014 #51
Hmmm sounds like a typical terrorist SirRevolutionary Apr 2014 #53

randys1

(16,286 posts)
52. Imagine if the militia men were Black
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:29 AM
Apr 2014

and the person being served was a Black activist

everyone would be in jail instantly

B R O K E N

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
2. I accept your offer,
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 08:56 AM
Apr 2014

now start lining them up. Oh wait, you are just another blustering gun nut, running is more your style.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
3. Do you all see the irony here ?
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 08:59 AM
Apr 2014

These militia nuts were supposedly out there to defend Bundy against government tyranny. But, what could be more tyrannical than forcing women in front of them when the shooting started to serve as bullet fodder for these brave Patriots ?

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
32. Wow, you're not kidding!
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:54 AM
Apr 2014

Teh stupid is STRONG on that site. I had to log in and comment but left quickly lest it be catching!

lark

(23,078 posts)
42. They are idiots!
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 01:26 PM
Apr 2014

This guy is stealing from the government, yet the government is the bad guy here? These are just crazy gun nut militia types who don't bother to get facts and just react emotionally to one of their "guys" being held accountable. Obviously they don't care about freedom or life or they wouldn't put the (unarmed?) women up front. I'm just wondering what kind of sick women they know that would do this voluntarily - or were they going to put them upfront at gun point, willing or not?

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
43. women
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 01:57 PM
Apr 2014

the really sad thing about this is that there are women with the same 17th century mindset that would let themselves be used by these nutters .

Sometimes , I could despair that so many hateful , ignorant people are trying to tear our great country apart .

Secessions , ignoring federal laws , disrespecting the office of the President , racial and religious discrimination , disrespect and subjugation of women , and the list goes on and on and on .........

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
4. You know what's even worse?
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 08:59 AM
Apr 2014

I suspect that some of the women may have been dumb enough to volunteer for "shield duty."

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
21. I would not be surprised
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:00 AM
Apr 2014

They've been brainwashed from birth to believe that they are not as "good" as the menfolk.

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
9. From watching the video shown over and over again
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 09:16 AM
Apr 2014

on MSM that is exactly what they did. Don't know why they said they "thought about it" given that it exactly what happened.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
11. Silver Lining ;)
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 09:22 AM
Apr 2014

We can all "take heart"-Women Do have "some value" after all in the "Mysterious Minds of the
GOP"

allan01

(1,950 posts)
17. this isnt going to end well
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 09:43 AM
Apr 2014

just like ongress who ran up bills and now dosent want to pay for them. this guy is getting away with that as well.. i always felt that the millitias were local goons

randr

(12,409 posts)
18. Nothing shows the world how brave and just you are
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 09:44 AM
Apr 2014

than standing behind women with your gun.
This admission alone should qualify as a reason not to own a gun.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
24. What's the big deal?
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:07 AM
Apr 2014

I learned on DU from worthy debaters that

1. Those armed NRA and teabagger "protestors" in Nevada who were ready to spill the blood of federal agents doing their job were all disciples of Gandhi and Dalai Lama whilst Mr. Bundy is Buddha himself and were a model of peaceful resistance.

2. Timothy McVeigh was channeling Martin Luther King, Jr. when he blew up the Oklahoma city building -- and stupid people like me didn't see that he was simply protesting.

3. Those damned jack-booted federal agents were oblivious to how David Koresh was protesting in Waco nor did they see the civil disobedience at Ruby Ridge.

So educational ......

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
25. not sure but I think they are a Mormon family & so have a huge number of 'human shields'
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:08 AM
Apr 2014

But you know how the police and even the Federal police are..they always go after the cameras first!

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
26. Hmmm, let's see...women, cattle...women, cattle...
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 10:12 AM
Apr 2014


That's a toughie for the Bundy Ranch terrorists!
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
34. As the women gathered, they began to sing
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:08 AM
Apr 2014

Sometimes it's hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man
You have bad times, and he'll have good times
Doing things that you don't understand (HA,HA)

But if you love him, you'll forgive him (Even if you get shot)
Even though he's hard to understand
And if you love him, oh be proud of him
'Cause after all, he's just a man (Protect those cows, Clive)

Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to (AR15 and Colt 45)
And something warm to come to
When nights are cold and lonely

Stand by your man
And show the world you love him (on Fox News)
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man

Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man (Clive, you want me to go to the front lines?)

hue

(4,949 posts)
40. MISOGYNY MANifested! Mack's "great idea"!!
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 12:01 PM
Apr 2014

I can't/don't want to believe this happened/is happening; and not just in Nevada!!

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
44. Women in the crossfire...
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 02:15 PM
Apr 2014

“We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front,” Mack said in a Fox News clip pulled by The Blaze. “If they are going to start shooting, it’s going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers.”
"to put all the women up at the front" What? Like they were sacks of sand? At the same time they would be firing towards the feds so the women would be in the middle of the crossfire? WTF???

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
45. It wasn't just the women, it was the children too...
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 02:40 PM
Apr 2014

"Mr. Mack told radio host Ben Swann on Monday that he believes women should be “the first ones shot” in order to send the most effective message.

“I would have put my own wife or daughters there, and I would have been screaming bloody murder to watch them die,” he said. “I would’ve gone next, I would have been the next one to be killed. I’m not afraid to die here. I’m willing to die here.”

“But the best ploy would be to have had women at the front,” he continued. “Because, one, I don’t think they would have shot them. And, two, if they had, it would have been the worst thing that we could have shown to the rest of the world, that these ruthless cowards hired by the federal government will do anything.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/15/former-sheriff-willing-let-wife-daughter-die-front/

What a bunch of sick fucks! He would put his wife and kids on the front line and he calls the feds cowards? What do you want to bet that he wouldn't have gone next?

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
46. Shows what they really mean when they say "Think of the women and children"
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 03:03 PM
Apr 2014

All about using them in one way or another.

And of course, that's "daughters" specifically in terms of which children they would use as shields.

nykym

(3,063 posts)
54. You know maybe the next time
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:29 AM
Apr 2014

we decide to invade another country.
We could 'Round Up' all these 'PATRIOTS'
and send them to fight the war.

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
55. That could get complicated...
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 11:34 PM
Apr 2014

Just think of the hassle it would be to send in "PATRIOTS" who would refuse to go unless they could take their wives and children along to use as their shields. The wives wouldn't be so bad because they've already been brainwashed, but the kids, oy! Then if the kids aren't potty trained diapers would have to be sent, and then there's the sippy cups, and teddy bears, and on and on.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
48. So even with all those guns, the Bundy crowd still had no stones?
Tue Apr 15, 2014, 04:26 PM
Apr 2014

I guarantee you their bluffs are getting called if they are ever dumb enough to force another 'standoff'

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
53. Hmmm sounds like a typical terrorist
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:45 AM
Apr 2014

mentality to me. If they're going to start shooting, we'll shock people by putting the women in front???

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