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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 08:53 PM Apr 2014

AZ pastor: Childless women on birth control have destroyed the U.S. with ‘whoredom’

Source: Raw Story

AZ pastor: Childless women on birth control have destroyed the U.S. with ‘whoredom’
By David Edwards
Wednesday, April 30, 2014 16:40 EDT

Arizona Pastor Steven Anderson warned his congregation recently that birth control was not only turn women into “whores,” it was also destroying the country.

In a sermon posted online this week, the Faithful Word Baptist Church leader explained that contraception was “not something Christians should be practicing,” even though he acknowledged that 99 percent of Christians believed it was acceptable.

Anderson pointed out that God, in the book of Genesis, had made childbearing painful to punish women for their Original Sin, adding that the husband “shall rule over thee.”

He argued that feminism had “given women the power” to decide when to have children for themselves, allowing them to have careers and follow other interests.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/30/az-pastor-childless-women-on-birth-control-have-destroyed-the-u-s-with-whoredom/

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AZ pastor: Childless women on birth control have destroyed the U.S. with ‘whoredom’ (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2014 OP
he's just saying what most conservative freaks believe Skittles Apr 2014 #1
The right hate women, period randys1 Apr 2014 #3
Love your mothers, daughters and sisters! zonkers May 2014 #55
The right hate women... AnneD May 2014 #71
Anderson knows what reliable birth control allowed us to do Warpy Apr 2014 #2
Evidently, many women do listen to this rubbish. Laelth May 2014 #52
Going along to get along Warpy May 2014 #68
Somewhat similar to santorum's thinking, elleng Apr 2014 #4
Q: What would my youth have been without childless women on birth control? onehandle Apr 2014 #5
NO PADRE! dawn frenzy adams Apr 2014 #6
Well, let's hear it for whoredom then... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #7
The Exact Opposite of Correct Roy Rolling Apr 2014 #8
Can we just start ignoring xxqqqzme Apr 2014 #9
"You're SUPPOSED to be in pain and ruled by your husband, you stupid women!" ck4829 Apr 2014 #10
Why in hell does anyone listen to clowns like Anderson? I don't get it. Owl Apr 2014 #11
He said it as if it was a bad thing. Beacool Apr 2014 #12
I knew who this was going to be before I opened it. He's breeding his wife to death, fwiw. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #13
oh my word--how utterly awful for her--and her children. niyad Apr 2014 #14
Don't even get me started on the liberalhistorian May 2014 #77
I was in disbelief that the pissing pastor would make it on DU XemaSab Apr 2014 #22
Insane, wingnut ministers have destroyed this country by fronting for Republicans diane in sf Apr 2014 #15
+1 freshwest Apr 2014 #27
I've actually spoken to Anderson in person and he even gave me a book. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #16
prayed for Obama's death several years ago.....Also wants death penalty for all homosexuals lunasun Apr 2014 #28
Even given the brevity of my encounter, he demonstrated symptoms of being psychotic. Gravitycollapse Apr 2014 #30
You mean, "Christian Dominionist." blkmusclmachine May 2014 #35
+1 sakabatou May 2014 #74
Fred Phelps died, Stryst Apr 2014 #17
. Scuba Apr 2014 #18
Yeah, we accomplished that entirely on our own Ilsa Apr 2014 #19
! BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #31
Of course he's from Arizona StarryNite Apr 2014 #20
Why I don't believe in the Bible. Misogynist crap. Sounds Taliban-like to me. Triana Apr 2014 #21
Numbnuts. The 'you know what' education classes. Rozlee Apr 2014 #23
He resembles Ted Cruz PADemD Apr 2014 #24
He argued that feminism had “given women the power” to decide IronLionZion Apr 2014 #25
This sounds like the same guy freethought Apr 2014 #26
Anderson is a complete douchebag. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #29
"birth control was not only turn women into “whores," truthisfreedom May 2014 #32
Wait, what? VWolf May 2014 #38
Yep. If you start before 25 truthisfreedom May 2014 #39
"If you start before 25" awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #46
Hey, don't get me started! truthisfreedom May 2014 #59
lol - I think most of us do, too. closeupready May 2014 #64
Just doing my part to prevent cancer... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #67
I usually start before noon. VWolf May 2014 #47
Seeing as I don't have a time machine... truthisfreedom May 2014 #60
The goal is to empty your prostate gland IronLionZion May 2014 #57
looking forward to the moment RainDog May 2014 #33
How long until the authoritarian rightwing control freaks start "suggesting" women wear burqas ?!?! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #34
OMG is this freak week are all the sick freaks coming out of the wood work now? trublu992 May 2014 #36
And they wonder why younger people are fleeing from organized religion... A Little Weird May 2014 #37
Yuck. City Lights May 2014 #40
it's everywhere obxnacy May 2014 #41
Sick asshole! Pity the idiots who attend his shit hole church. L0oniX May 2014 #42
I wondered what happened to America! KansDem May 2014 #43
“Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest” warrior1 May 2014 #44
Whee. That guy'd be a hell of a date! Kablooie May 2014 #45
We gotta get reporters to press Cruz on all this. toby jo May 2014 #48
He's out of step even with conservatives. Orsino May 2014 #49
WTF is wrong with these people...? mike_c May 2014 #50
Well, honestly, I think it's that they think too little of themselves MissMillie May 2014 #54
ya ya ya. lets embrace the whore that we are. right? does all realize jsut how much, how often seabeyond May 2014 #51
A talking Ape! In that pulpit there! The Second Stone May 2014 #53
Why are the utterances of a asshat news? icymist May 2014 #56
He's made national news before - I don't recall closeupready May 2014 #65
What an asshole shenmue May 2014 #58
I hope that it isn't too late for him to save the world from all of these 'whores'. olddad56 May 2014 #61
i wondered when that little prick was going to surface again..... n/t 8 track mind May 2014 #62
War on women? What war on women? NickB79 May 2014 #63
America's Taliban passiveporcupine May 2014 #66
far from the first stupid thing he has said. Nobel_Twaddle_III May 2014 #69
Isn't not having unwanted children the opposite of "whoredom?" Dozer May 2014 #70
What a filthy scumbag LeftishBrit May 2014 #72
This is what happens when the couple of 'global base religions' have a few thousand years to twist. Sunlei May 2014 #73
Them that can Do them that can't Preach. mackerel May 2014 #75
My own pastor would liberalhistorian May 2014 #76
Boundless ignorance, stupidity and meanness. nt ladjf May 2014 #78
lol. what a fool Liberal_in_LA May 2014 #79

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
2. Anderson knows what reliable birth control allowed us to do
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 08:59 PM
Apr 2014

which is pursue education and have careers. What he hasn't said is what the hell his problem with that is.

He sounds like just another moron who has confused that piece of meat between his legs with the almighty. No mere woman should ever interfere with its holy work of turning her into a baby machine until she dies of exhaustion or complications.

I just wonder if there are any women who listen to this rubbish and why.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
52. Evidently, many women do listen to this rubbish.
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:24 PM
May 2014

For the life of me, I can't understand why so many American women vote for Republicans, but they do. There must be a reason. They can't all be that stupid.



-Laelth

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
68. Going along to get along
Thu May 1, 2014, 05:05 PM
May 2014

with Republican neighbors, church acquaintances, preachers, bosses, and (most importantly) husbands. I've known some of these women. I've mentioned the sanctity of the voting booth where they can vote their own interests and lie about it later. I hope that did some damage.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. Well, let's hear it for whoredom then...
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:07 PM
Apr 2014

since it's a fair bit better than poverty, homelessness, unemployment, war, crime... All the good stuff a certain type of Christian seems to approve of.

Show of hands for Mary Magdalene and how she would have approved of today's women.

Roy Rolling

(6,911 posts)
8. The Exact Opposite of Correct
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:17 PM
Apr 2014

Actually, what destroys societies are unwanted children born to parents who do not or cannot care for them. That is the problem. Birth control is one off the solutions.

ck4829

(35,045 posts)
10. "You're SUPPOSED to be in pain and ruled by your husband, you stupid women!"
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:25 PM
Apr 2014

And then he'll wonder why everyone thinks he's a kook, and after a long period of introspection... Oh, who am I kidding, he'll blame any criticism of him on the liberals, atheists, homosexuals, and Obama Disinformation Squads.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
12. He said it as if it was a bad thing.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:56 PM
Apr 2014

He argued that feminism had “given women the power” to decide when to have children for themselves, allowing them to have careers and follow other interests.

Release the Whoredom!!!







LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
13. I knew who this was going to be before I opened it. He's breeding his wife to death, fwiw.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:05 PM
Apr 2014

She's due with twins any day now. Well, I don't know if you still call it twins, one of them died in utero months ago. She thinks she's going to homebirth, which sounds like the worst idea I've ever heard. These are kids #8 and 9. She's in her early thirties. She looks like a worn out 45. No judgment, I would too if I were herding that many children and had a husband who couldn't keep a damn job.

But yeah, he's literally the last person on earth to give anybody family planning advice.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
14. oh my word--how utterly awful for her--and her children.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:12 PM
Apr 2014

I was thinking about andrea yates, and how her doctor said getting pregnant again could kill her, yet, according to reports, her husband insisted (even though she had already suffered episodes of ppd, and had attempted suicide several times.

liberalhistorian

(20,816 posts)
77. Don't even get me started on the
Fri May 2, 2014, 08:27 PM
May 2014

tremendous injustice of that case and what was done to her, while NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING was EVER done to her husband, who was, frankly, more culpable than she was for ignoring her condition, forcing her to continue being a baby machine despite medical and psychiatric advice, and removing her from psychiatric hospitalization against medical advice, well before her doctors thought she should have been. But he ignored that, too. HE should have been charged, frankly. And I feel sorry for his current wife, whom he met at church after he divorced Andrea.

I'm just glad that justice prevailed, her conviction overturned and she was finally released.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
16. I've actually spoken to Anderson in person and he even gave me a book.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:26 PM
Apr 2014

He is the same pastor who prayed for Obama's death several years ago. One of his church members is the man who showed up at a protest in Phoenix with an AR-15 and I briefly spoke with him as well.

What was odd is that Anderson is very charismatic and, excluding the actual words, the delivery of his rhetoric was almost hypnotic. Very disturbing. I can understand how the gullible and stupid would see him as a good leader.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
28. prayed for Obama's death several years ago.....Also wants death penalty for all homosexuals
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:48 PM
Apr 2014

one sick fucker

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
30. Even given the brevity of my encounter, he demonstrated symptoms of being psychotic.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:54 PM
Apr 2014

For instance, the book he gave me was The Gulag Archipelago. Which is one of the greatest non-fiction books ever written. But somehow Anderson took it not just as an indictment of Sovietism but also a condemnation of the very concept of humanism. To read something so deeply into a book which clearly never makes such an argument is an indication that his psyche is pretty unstable.

He sees the enemy everywhere. That enemy is anyone not as malevolent and repressed as the God of the Old Testament.

Stryst

(714 posts)
17. Fred Phelps died,
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:35 PM
Apr 2014

and now there's a hate vacuum. He rails against marriage equality, divorce, abortion... basically the whole extreme right hate list.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
19. Yeah, we accomplished that entirely on our own
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:56 PM
Apr 2014

Without the help of men. They are too virtuous to be caught up in our whoredom.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
21. Why I don't believe in the Bible. Misogynist crap. Sounds Taliban-like to me.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:09 PM
Apr 2014

Women having dominion and power over their own bodies and lives? Terrible.

Pfft.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
23. Numbnuts. The 'you know what' education classes.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:30 PM
Apr 2014

He can say whores, fornicate and every other word out there, but he can't say 'sex.'

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
25. He argued that feminism had “given women the power” to decide
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:33 PM
Apr 2014
when to have children for themselves, allowing them to have careers and follow other interests.



Yeah, that sounds just awful.
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
29. Anderson is a complete douchebag.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:49 PM
Apr 2014

He argued that feminism had “given women the power” to decide when to have children for themselves, allowing them to have careers and follow other interests.


As if that was some sort of bad thing? Gimme a fucking break! And feminism actually helps men & boys, too; not that these Fundies or their MRA fellow travellers actually care, of course.....

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
32. "birth control was not only turn women into “whores,"
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:10 AM
May 2014

EDITOR PLEASE! And Jesus fuck, can these angry old white religious winger fucks stop hating women and go back to the prostate cancer they contracted by refusing to masturbate?

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
38. Wait, what?
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:20 AM
May 2014

Masturbation prevents prostate cancer? Cool!

(Just trying to glean some good news off this disturbing thread)

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
39. Yep. If you start before 25
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:54 AM
May 2014

And continue regularly, it helps clear infectious diseases like chlamydia out of your prostate, and sadly, many of the diseases that can be trapped in a little-used prostate can help lead to prostate cancer. It's hard for white blood cells to get into your prostate to clear infections, and masturbation helps flow everything out of there. Do some interwebs research!

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
47. I usually start before noon.
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:49 AM
May 2014

bada bing, bada boom!

I took your advice - WebMD says it leads to increased chance of prostate cancer for those under 25 and reduced chance for those over 50. Seeing as I'm 48, it's about time I got my hands .... dirty.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
57. The goal is to empty your prostate gland
Thu May 1, 2014, 01:28 PM
May 2014

which normal ejaculate doesn't quite accomplish. Look into prostate massage online. This can be done with a partner if she's into it, or with a object designed for it.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
33. looking forward to the moment
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:25 AM
May 2014

when the video is released of him snorting chickory off a hooker's behind (h/t jberryhill)

 

obxnacy

(27 posts)
41. it's everywhere
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:17 AM
May 2014

oh my god - arizona is full of dumb asses too! two states with women as governors that are other women's worst enemies.
then, they as ass like that minister - what rock did he slither from under? when will women rise up and tell them where to go? far, far away!

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
42. Sick asshole! Pity the idiots who attend his shit hole church.
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:53 AM
May 2014

There's always some gigantic hypocrite condemning those they call sinners while the Jesus they claim to believe in clearly did not cast the first stone.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
48. We gotta get reporters to press Cruz on all this.
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:03 PM
May 2014

"Senator, how do you feel about woman who refuse to submit to their husbands 'ruling' over them"?

"If painful childbearing is god's punishment to woman, what is god's punishment for men"?

btw, Anderson, I had a child, at a commune, and it wasn't painful at all. It was sexy and fun and beautiful and enlightening.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
50. WTF is wrong with these people...?
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:17 PM
May 2014

His mother must have dropped him on his head one time too many. Or not frequently enough, LOL. Where does this sort of attitude come from?

MissMillie

(38,549 posts)
54. Well, honestly, I think it's that they think too little of themselves
Thu May 1, 2014, 01:05 PM
May 2014

and they only way they can make themselves "big" and "powerful" is to make sure no one else has any power.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
51. ya ya ya. lets embrace the whore that we are. right? does all realize jsut how much, how often
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:23 PM
May 2014

women are called whores.

are we done yet?

one way or another.

over and over and over again.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
53. A talking Ape! In that pulpit there!
Thu May 1, 2014, 12:49 PM
May 2014

Never mind that it says really offensive things. It forms more or less complete sentences! It's a sign from God! The sign means "shut the hell up if you can't say something nice."

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
65. He's made national news before - I don't recall
Thu May 1, 2014, 03:01 PM
May 2014

the circumstances of his prior coverage, but his church is really REALLY wacko.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
58. What an asshole
Thu May 1, 2014, 01:35 PM
May 2014

I know, very uncharitable of me. I am supposed to try to forgive.

I think even the Lord knows there are some people who really try hard to provoke a punch in the face.

Mercy!

Nobel_Twaddle_III

(323 posts)
69. far from the first stupid thing he has said.
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:56 PM
May 2014

He got lippy with the border patrol a few years back, and they abused him some. Google him and you will see a history of dumbassery. Have to wonder about who is in his parish supporting him.

 

Dozer

(27 posts)
70. Isn't not having unwanted children the opposite of "whoredom?"
Fri May 2, 2014, 03:38 PM
May 2014


Also I would imagine most women on birth control are in a relationship not that it matters either way.

liberalhistorian

(20,816 posts)
76. My own pastor would
Fri May 2, 2014, 08:22 PM
May 2014

have some very choice words for this hateful, ignorant, bloviating idiot. Oh, yes, she would, indeed. As would my seminary professors, most of whom are also women.

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