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KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
Tue May 20, 2014, 04:04 PM May 2014

FCC chairman grilled at House subcommittee hearing

Source: USA Today

The Federal Communications Commission won't earn unanimous acclaim with its plan to create new net neutrality, if agency chairman Tom Wheeler's reception at a House hearing Tuesday is an indication.

Over two hours, House Energy and Commerce subcommittee members alternately railed at the FCC chairman for considering the possibility of regulating the Internet as a utility -- and for considering to allow content providers to pay for their data to be given priority over that of competitors.

Wheeler attempted to reassure them that the agency's primary goal is approval of new net neutrality, or open Internet, regulations to ensure that all data on the Net is treated equally. "We've tried," he said, "to come up with a proposal that stops blocking (and) that prohibits anything that degrades a consumer's access."

...

Asked by Latta what Wheeler has heard so far, the chairman said, "two diametrically- opposed positions: One is that you should not do anything and the other is that we should go all way to being regulated like a public utility. Our job is to find that which is best for consumers and best for encouraging investment in the Internet."

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/05/20/house-fcc-chairman-wheeler-net-neutrality/9328489/



Note that Chairman Wheeler talks out of both sides of his neck:

He says comments to FCC saying "don't do anything" (in terms of the ridiculous rules allowing paid priority access he has proposed) are in opposition to the comments saying "regulate ISPs like utilities" (making sure all internet traffic is treated equally with no paid priority access).

This smarmy b@stard won't admit the majority of the comments equal a vote to NOT allow paid priority for internet content. And failing that, then make sure ISPs are treated like utilities/common carriers so that no internet traffic is prioritized higher than any other.
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FCC chairman grilled at House subcommittee hearing (Original Post) KeepItReal May 2014 OP
Investment in the Internet is the operating phrase upaloopa May 2014 #1
+1 tofuandbeer May 2014 #2
Mike Papatonio says this is all theatre.Wheeler already sold us out bjobotts May 2014 #18
Obama!!!!!! billhicks76 May 2014 #21
Exactly what I thought when I read it. Ed Suspicious May 2014 #16
Am I wrong, or doesn't Tom Wheeler serve at the pleasure of the President. Why is he still around? genwah May 2014 #3
Since he was only appointed last year, I think he was and remains the President's choice KeepItReal May 2014 #5
You are wrong. He does not serve at the pleasure of the President. onenote May 2014 #7
Thank you. I wasn't sure. Cabinet posts, etc, but FCC... genwah May 2014 #11
FCC commissioners have fixed terms. Wheeler's runs until 2018. 24601 May 2014 #23
Laws Smaws.. deregulations have essentially shredded anything meaninful 2banon May 2014 #12
Really. Name an FCC Commissioner that was fired by the President. onenote May 2014 #15
I never said any of them were fired. 2banon May 2014 #22
Maybe so. onenote May 2014 #25
Why would the President want to Fire Wheeler? 2banon May 2014 #26
Beats me. Wasn't my idea. I was just pointing out that even if he wanted to onenote May 2014 #27
That's what I thought too. If so, justhanginon May 2014 #9
the reasons he was appointed, is because of his connection and loyalty to the industry 2banon May 2014 #13
Wheeler was a lobbyists for the cable companies bjobotts May 2014 #19
Do you believe that Obama has a differing view of the future of Net Neutrality NorthCarolina May 2014 #14
And you would be precisely right in my view. Ed Suspicious May 2014 #17
FCC commissioners have fixed terms. Wheeler's runs until 2018. Can't be fired for policy 24601 May 2014 #24
Investment Will Dry Up For All But The Paid Subscribers DallasNE May 2014 #4
If Wheeler has his way, part of every content startup's business plan will include payments to ISPs KeepItReal May 2014 #6
Actually I think Wheeler accurately described the opposing positions onenote May 2014 #8
Doing nothing/standing down/unregulation = allowing paid content prioritization deals KeepItReal May 2014 #10
Wheeler wants you to think it's still up for discussion. It's not. bjobotts May 2014 #20

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. Investment in the Internet is the operating phrase
Tue May 20, 2014, 04:28 PM
May 2014

People with money want more money and they see a way to make it by selling something they don't own right now.
New rules would give a minority of people rights that the rest of us can't get.
It is similar to privatizing social security or to make water a traded commodity. Soon they will want to charge you for breathing.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
5. Since he was only appointed last year, I think he was and remains the President's choice
Tue May 20, 2014, 04:54 PM
May 2014

to head the FCC

onenote

(42,590 posts)
7. You are wrong. He does not serve at the pleasure of the President.
Tue May 20, 2014, 05:01 PM
May 2014

As the head of an independent federal regulatory agency, he cannot be removed by the president. This has been the law of the land since the decision in the Humphrey's Executor case in the 1930s.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
12. Laws Smaws.. deregulations have essentially shredded anything meaninful
Tue May 20, 2014, 05:44 PM
May 2014

What you're saying maybe still be "on the books", but as we have witnessed these past two - three decades vis a vis deregulations, anything accidently left on the books, is "just a piece of worthless paper". ya know, like the constitution.

and we also know, that Presidential appointees, with rare exceptions, do serve at the pleasure of the one that brought them.. regardless of what is on the books.

onenote

(42,590 posts)
15. Really. Name an FCC Commissioner that was fired by the President.
Tue May 20, 2014, 06:13 PM
May 2014

There have been more than 80, so it shouldn't be hard for you to name one.
Unless of course you're wrong. Which you are.

onenote

(42,590 posts)
25. Maybe so.
Wed May 21, 2014, 11:06 PM
May 2014

I thought you were defending the claim that FCC Commissioners serve at the pleasure of the President, meaning that the President could fire Wheeler. Glad to have it cleared up that you weren't.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
26. Why would the President want to Fire Wheeler?
Thu May 22, 2014, 12:14 PM
May 2014

It's all going according to the industry's plans. The agenda was set years ago, and Wheeler seems to be managing to meet their goals well enough despite groundswell of activism opposing the dismantling of net neutrality, and the merging of industry content creators/distributing/delivery into one mega monopoly, etc., etc., etc...

justhanginon

(3,289 posts)
9. That's what I thought too. If so,
Tue May 20, 2014, 05:07 PM
May 2014

the President can disappoint or unhire or to put it crudely, fire the bastard! Since Wheeler's allegiance is not to the general public but rather to the industries he has represented in the past he should be relieved of his job. That is, if the President meant what he said about net neutrality and I sincerely hope he does.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
13. the reasons he was appointed, is because of his connection and loyalty to the industry
Tue May 20, 2014, 05:46 PM
May 2014

it was a quid pro quo from the Prez to the Cable industry. ya know, campaign fundy thingy.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
14. Do you believe that Obama has a differing view of the future of Net Neutrality
Tue May 20, 2014, 06:05 PM
May 2014

than his appointee Wheeler? I do not believe Obama was oblivious to Wheelers background or his desire to put toll booths on the internet when he appointed him to the FCC. Rather, I suspect Wheeler was appointed by Obama precisely BECAUSE OF his views.

24601

(3,955 posts)
24. FCC commissioners have fixed terms. Wheeler's runs until 2018. Can't be fired for policy
Wed May 21, 2014, 07:51 PM
May 2014

differences, only for cause involving misconduct.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
4. Investment Will Dry Up For All But The Paid Subscribers
Tue May 20, 2014, 04:52 PM
May 2014

That will squeeze out all but the "big boys" and deal a catastrophic blow to the internet as we know it. That is the predictable consequence of market based solutions -- just follow the money.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
6. If Wheeler has his way, part of every content startup's business plan will include payments to ISPs
Tue May 20, 2014, 05:00 PM
May 2014

for that priority/fast lane access to the ISP's customers. (Like Netflix paid to Comcast)


Comcast/Verizon/AT&T/Time Warner/Cox CEOs

onenote

(42,590 posts)
8. Actually I think Wheeler accurately described the opposing positions
Tue May 20, 2014, 05:06 PM
May 2014

One side (represented by the two republican members of the FCC and most congressional republicans) think that the FCC should stand down from trying to reimpose any rules to replace those struck down by the DC Circuit in January thereby allowing Internet Service Providers to be completely unregulated. The other side in the debate consists largely of those who believe the FCC not only should reimpose the rules that were struck down, but should strengthen based on the theory that the Internet is a "Title II" common carrier service.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
10. Doing nothing/standing down/unregulation = allowing paid content prioritization deals
Tue May 20, 2014, 05:14 PM
May 2014

Comcast's deal with Netflix would be the standard, going forward, if the FCC does nothing.

Every other ISP could follow suit, seeing how the FCC has done nothing to challenge the practice of making content providers (like Netflix) pay for "enhanced" speed on the carrier's (Comcast) network into subscriber's homes.

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
20. Wheeler wants you to think it's still up for discussion. It's not.
Wed May 21, 2014, 12:08 AM
May 2014

He knows it too. he sold out net neutrality. It will be lilke a phone company that can bill you $1 dollar to talk to your cousin about the weather and $25 to talk to the same cousin about making $50. Pay more and get primo unless your local cable company carries their own version of netflix in a bundle for less. Then if you refuse it suddenly your primo netflix starts running real slow. Poor folks will get screwed the most like they do now with smart phones.
It will come to pass that we will tell our grand kids how we all used to get all the internet sites for one price...remember net neutrality.

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