U.S. Teacher: I Did 7 Months Of Forced Labor In A Chinese Jail
Source: NPR
Prisoner 1741 spent more than seven months inside a jail in southern China, assembling Christmas lights for export to America. Work days stretched up to 10 hours and conditions were tough, he says. One boss used strands of Christmas lights to whip workers and drive production.
Stories about forced labor have trickled out of China over the years, but what makes Prisoner 1741's so remarkable is that he isn't Chinese. He's American. In fact, he's a middle-aged, American sociology professor from South Carolina.
Stuart Foster's odyssey inside the Chinese penal system began in April of last year, when police in the city of Guangzhou took him to jail on theft charges. Foster had confessed to taking a large sum of money from an American colleague at a local university.
When Foster arrived at the White Cloud District Detention Center, he says, they gave him a cup and a toothbrush and put him in a cell about the size of a racquetball court where he would spend most of the next 280 days.
Read more: http://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/may/29/us-teacher-i-did-7-months-of-forced-labor-in-a/
& Free Tibet BTW.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)They sure are cheap, those Christmas lights, now we know why. I personally have no need for them, better not to support such systems.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Substitute the US for China and you'd have people calling for heads to roll.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)I guess it just doesn't scratch that exclusively hate American itch.
And I'm not defending the US, BTW:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/25/us/using-jailed-migrants-as-a-pool-of-cheap-labor.html
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)In both cases it's wrong. I've rarely seen anyone on DU say anything about China's human rights issues.
ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)You seriously believe that happens here?
- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)between distant countries and their own country, where they can affect things more easily (and set an example for the world). You'd think they understood that you have to sweep the dirt from in front of your own door first.
You'd think they see the difference in coverage by the U.S. corporate media: where are the stories of outrage about prison labor here, or wrongly convicted people here?
It's very convenient to get fake, self-aggrandizing outrage about things that happen in designated enemy countries, since this usually accomplishes nothing except to justify how things are done at home.
Our first moral duty -- and the far harder task -- is to take up the fight closest to home.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)1000words
(7,051 posts)On the other hand ... if he wasn't a thief, he wouldn't have found himself at the mercy of the Chinese legal system. Bright guy like that should have known better. Hope he learned his lesson.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Its possible it was a forced confession, on the other hand if he did steal a large sum of money maybe he got off easy.
Whenever you travel overseas, even as close as Mexico, it's a good idea to stay out of trouble.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)we can't pretend we don't do it too. Plenty of states use inmates as slave labor, for a lot longer than 7 months at a time.
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)We do pretty much the same thing to a lot of our own prisoners - even the nonviolent ones. Yeah, it's terrible. Yes, we should put a stop to it. It is very hard though, to convince the overall populace to give a damn about the prison population. There is a common belief system that suggests "Well, if they hadn't been stupid/bad they wouldn't be there." The way we treat our prisoners says a lot about our society.
okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)we set off a bunch of fireworks and yelled "We're Number One!" ?
People defend refusing to prosecute or even acknowledge war crimes here, fer chrissake.
ETA: If it had been here, he might still have been slave labor and it would've been 7 years instead of 7 months.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Fascinating, self-congratulatory blindness.
okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)and worked at a place that made church furniture. There was a guy that worked there that the county jail sent over. He didn't want to be there, but he didn't want to tell the sheriff no, either. After maybe two months there, a bandsaw blade broke and took part of his hand off because the guard had been removed. The sheriff sent a new convict over, and I haven't seen that guy since. (That was twenty years ago and I never knew his real name, and I quit the next day) I'm not "misinformed", thanks, I've seen it first hand.
We most certainly DO have slave labor in our prisons. If "Work for us so we can take all the money and we'll fuck you up if you refuse" doesn't qualify as slave labor, I don't know what does. And that isn't little bumblefuck county jails, that's what privatized prisons do.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289
http://truth-out.org/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=1808:martori-farms-abusive-conditions-at-a-key-walmart-supplier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labour#United_States
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Thanks.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Hope this helps.
flashbang
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|heaven05
(18,124 posts)by the corporations and people that will benefit from forced labor???!!!!!!! The RW in this country probably feel this is justifiable punishment while providing 'jobs'. And these lights will be in walmart or a dollar store near you soon.
malthaussen
(17,175 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Stuart Foster's odyssey inside the Chinese penal system began in April of last year, when police in the city of Guangzhou took him to jail on theft charges. Foster had confessed to taking a large sum of money from an American colleague at a local university.
Because, of course, worse happens in the U.S.
That doesn't mean this is just or good. It is very bad. But in the U.S., people often get LONGER sentences for stealing "a large sum of money" and they often end up doing forced labor -- sometimes at private prisons.
If this story had happened in the U.S., and if amazingly it had received coverage from NPR, it is guaranteed that the man would never be referred to primarily as a teacher. He would be called a confessed, convicted felon -- and a former teacher.
So when a U.S. outlet does this for China in the absence of comparable coverage for the U.S., it is of course seen as hypocrisy and opportunistic blindness.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Since the advent of widespread smart phones there has been an astonishing wave of police brutality videos. Where's NPR's sympathetic coverage condemning the U.S. police? Where's NPR inside U.S. prisons, referring to prisoners by their outside professions rather than as convicted criminals?
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Only in jail for 14 hours and he witnesses a murder. Wow.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)within a few minutes or seconds of running into the police.