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Did you ever think of that?
If not, please do, because that'll surely cut the numbers down.
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I added that, just in case. These are hard times, very hard.
Is a seven year old child an "illegal combatant?"
This is what happened in that airstrike:
http://rt.com/news/173072-child-rescue-snezhnoe-ukraine/
No word that hours before the Ukrainian air force was grounded. As I mentioned last night in discussing this attack. RT is, as usual, behind the times. They can't report things until they get the right spin on it. The Ukrainian media can be full of reports, pictures, video. RT waits until they can cite a reliable source for what really happened--either the LNR and DNR spokesfolk or the Russian foreign affairs/internal affairs ministries. For them, news is like a top--it falls flat if it's not spun properly. This was news yesterday morning for most of the world, but Russia sources were fairly quiet on the point.
The grounding of the UA air force, though, is a big part of why there's lack of an alternative explanation from the UA air force: If it wasn't the Ukrainian air force and they don't know who did it, they're not going to have one.
You see, the problem is this: There were retreats because of a lack of air cover that could take out rebel armored vehicles because of the Antonov transport that was shot down. The loss-averse Ukrainian forces grounded their aircraft. However, they did it quietly--you don't shout, "Hey, guys, come out from cover--no air attacks tonight!" The big evidence was the lack of any other air strikes.
But soon after the grounding, the Snizhne strike happened. During the time when the only evidence of no airstrikes was the lack of airstrikes and there was no formal announcement. Even LDR sources by morning recognized the lack of air cover and the reason for it. They were happy at punch that their armor was pushing back Ukrainian forces, without any air strikes. The "official" announcement came in response to outrage--why are there no airstrikes when there are columns of rebel armored vehicles in the open and when Ukr forces have been forced out and assaulted by Grad and tank and artillery fire? The outrage built until finally the cowardice was fairly palpable. The separatist press said nothing about Snizhne. They'd already pointed out the lack of air strikes and the cowardice of the UA air force in not flying their planes. How could they stage an air strike with no planes in the air?
So the choice is that the Jewish gay fascists who like European Union legal norms opted to let their own soldiers die and retreat in order to engage in a single bombing run of a civilian population center (with no other air strikes anywhere for over 24 hours) or they just didn't do any air strikes. The first shows a level of bias and ill-will that is, strictly speaking, borderline monomaniac. However, if the second scenario is the case, people have to ask who *did* stage the air strike. That's very uncomfortable, so that question gets asked not so much.
It's been 24 hours. The Russian press and the Western press that feeds off the Russian press service barely mentioned the Snizhne attack. Now that the UA air force is back to bombing, they can easily claim it was a standard bombing run against civilians to kill civilians. It's what fascist do. The 24-hour plus air craft grounding wasn't reported, so it never happened.
Remember: Every radar installation in the "regions", good only for monitoring air traffic, was taken out by the DNR and LNR, often with no other goal for the raid. So unless an AWACS was around--or the Russians let us see their unedited radar data--there'll be no answer that isn't rooted in suspicion and ill-will based on shifting and often misapplied labels. The wreckage of the plane might be of use, but as I said before, it was chopped up and hauled away by locals, supervised by "rebels." I think an AWACS should be flying as close to possible. Think of it as keeping both sides honest, if nothing else.
There is a third option--that the pilot of the one bomber in the air that night had orders to hit a well-lit city miles from any fighting while soldiers 30 miles to the north and 10 miles to the south were being killed by artillery, Grad fire, and tank fire. Because given the choice of killing women and children or saving the lives of your own forces, well, well all know what fascists do. (That, of course, involves "thinking by labels" or "thinking by stereotypes."
