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reorg

(3,317 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 07:47 PM Jul 2014

Russian TV channel RT confirms release of its stringer

Source: ITAR-TASS

MOSCOW, July 26. /ITAR-TASS/.

Stringer of Russian TV channel RT Graham Phillips who was detained in Ukraine several days ago was released and is staying in Poland, RT website reported.

Phillips went on the line for the first time since his disappearance on July 22.

Ukrainian media have earlier reported about the release of the journalist with the reference to the Ukrainian Security Service. They also said that Ukrainian law enforcement agencies had expelled Phillips from the country and banned him from entering Ukraine for three years, explaining this “by interests of state security, sovereignty and territorial integrity.”

The RT stringer confirmed this information in his Twitter account. He also added that he had not been beaten up after detention, but Ukrainian military forces had taken his car, money and bullet-proof vest. “I'm free, ok, deported from Ukraine, banned for 3 years, because 'I work for RT',” the RT stringer wrote down.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/21/british-journalist-graham-phillips-detained-east-ukraine



GrahamWPhillips @GrahamWP_UK
I'm free, ok, deported from Ukraine, banned for 3 years, because 'I work for RT'. My car, money, bullet-proof vest taken by Ukrainian army.

GrahamWPhillips @GrahamWP_UK
My accounts on Facebook and Vkontakte hacked, the Ukrainian SBU deleted every single file on my computer. Working to recover them now.

GrahamWPhillips @GrahamWP_UK
1/2 I wasn't beaten, Vadim was severely beaten, but had a difficult day of detention by the Ukrainian army at Donetsk Airport. They asked me

GrahamWPhillips @GrahamWP_UK
2/2 lots of questions about the Donetsk Republic. I refused to answer, they put me in a room next to artillery position, being fired at.

GrahamWPhillips @GrahamWP_UK
Going to Donetsk airport at night to film was entirely my own decision, @RT_com told me in strong terms not to go, but I went anyway.


https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK


Graham Phillips had been previously detained in May and released after two days in Mariupol:

A British journalist working for the TV channel Russia Today, who had not been seen since his detention by the Ukrainian government on Tuesday, has said he is "free and fine" after being released.

Graham Phillips, a blogger hired on a freelance basis by the Kremlin-funded channel, gained notoriety during the conflict in the east for his gonzo-style subjective reports and his sharp online criticism of the Maidan protests and the new Ukrainian government, declaring several times that he believes the country "does not exist" any more.

Phillips, 35, tweeted to his nearly 11,000 followers that he had been released from custody, and revealed he was not facing any criminal charges or deportation threat following his arrest. He was arrested at a checkpoint near the flashpoint city of Mariupol on Tuesday and was transferred to Zaporozhye where he spent the night in detention ...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/21/british-journalist-graham-phillips-detained-east-ukraine


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Russian TV channel RT confirms release of its stringer (Original Post) reorg Jul 2014 OP
Are we suppose to feel bad for him? itsrobert Jul 2014 #1
You must be an american, caring so much for freedom of the press. delrem Jul 2014 #2
Hey they have monsters to create and war to sell. zeemike Jul 2014 #10
Is this a continuation of the stuff "in your head"? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #13
Wy yes it is. zeemike Jul 2014 #14
Thanks for the distinction. Most aren't so polite. delrem Jul 2014 #16
I love how "in your head" you've conflated criticism of Putin's RT to pushing war. Interesting. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #18
Well I only have history to go on. zeemike Jul 2014 #20
To hear an RT defender speak about "freedom of the press" is to laugh. The Kremlin's stenographer.. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #11
So, RT doesn't count. I see. delrem Jul 2014 #15
Fuck "the stringer". Ukraine knows what RT is about, as do most of us. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #17
Yes, fuck those journalists. delrem Jul 2014 #21
I think your confusion stems from your misunderstanding of "journalist" & "stenographer". There's.. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #24
Yes, of course. Those "putinistas" who tell a different story than delrem Jul 2014 #25
You should see that posters posts here: joshcryer Jul 2014 #26
oooh. I'm anti-american! A target extraordinaire! delrem Jul 2014 #27
Just showing the hypocrisy. joshcryer Jul 2014 #29
I hope you're also considering your own. nt delrem Jul 2014 #30
The "hypocrisy" has been evident for some time now, josh.. thank you. And, so has the Cha Jul 2014 #40
Does have a very strong anti-American whiff to it. Which is against TOS, actually.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #31
What is an "America-hater", please? reorg Jul 2014 #33
I didn't write the TOS, so go Ask The Administrators. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #34
okay reorg Jul 2014 #35
Likewise, my dear. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #36
He was reported to be missing until a few hours ago reorg Jul 2014 #3
How many independent journalists are allowed to operate in the 'people's republics?' geek tragedy Jul 2014 #4
Or held by the rebels and beaten davidpdx Jul 2014 #6
Graham Phillips deported from Ukraine dipsydoodle Jul 2014 #5
He was actually detained months ago. joshcryer Jul 2014 #7
got a source? reorg Jul 2014 #8
Oops, not deported, detained and released: joshcryer Jul 2014 #12
so he was accredited by the DPR reorg Jul 2014 #19
Right, so once in Ukraine territory, he was no longer accredited. joshcryer Jul 2014 #23
Well that puts a whole new complexion on the issue. He was a lawbreaker. I'm glad he's alive, but Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #9
Glad he is well and hope the Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #22
Journalists in wartime are heros. delrem Jul 2014 #28
"I wonder if Russia would be so nice?" There's no American equivalent of RT in Russia. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #32
You cant get CNN in Russia? jamzrockz Jul 2014 #39
CNN's the equivalent of Kremlin funded RT? How the hell does that work? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #41
not in Russian reorg Jul 2014 #42
Yes. Igel Jul 2014 #37
Journalist detained working for CNN in Ukraine is freed reorg Jul 2014 #38

delrem

(9,688 posts)
2. You must be an american, caring so much for freedom of the press.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jul 2014

I'm continuously impressed by such opinions.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
10. Hey they have monsters to create and war to sell.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:29 PM
Jul 2014

You can't be bothered with such freedoms when doing that.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
14. Wy yes it is.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:38 PM
Jul 2014

And you are getting the genuine article...no borrowed thoughts from people that are above me.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
16. Thanks for the distinction. Most aren't so polite.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:41 PM
Jul 2014

Myself, I understand the ambiguity of your "they".

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
20. Well I only have history to go on.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 09:13 PM
Jul 2014

And the last time we did it was Saddam, and you know how that turned out...

And when you see people making wild unfounded charges against a country and it's leaders without any credible evidence and doing it so quickly it is like the smoke of a fire...firsst you smell it in the air, then you see it in the air, next you feel it.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
11. To hear an RT defender speak about "freedom of the press" is to laugh. The Kremlin's stenographer..
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:32 PM
Jul 2014

got the boot. Boo Hoo!

Guess what nationality these dead journalists are. Go on, guess!

delrem

(9,688 posts)
15. So, RT doesn't count. I see.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:39 PM
Jul 2014

Sounds oh so very progressive of you - and to cast me as an "RT defender", an enemy. How very very progressive of you.

This was about a stringer. Someone who worked in journalism.

Byeee!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
24. I think your confusion stems from your misunderstanding of "journalist" & "stenographer". There's..
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 09:38 PM
Jul 2014

a difference.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
25. Yes, of course. Those "putinistas" who tell a different story than
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 09:43 PM
Jul 2014

what you want to hear are all targets.
I hear ya, Tarheel_Dem.
I hear ya loud and clear.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
26. You should see that posters posts here:
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 09:48 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014643456

It's not about having a coherent argument, they just hate anything that isn't anti-American.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
27. oooh. I'm anti-american! A target extraordinaire!
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jul 2014

It figures, coming from you, josh. And you called *me* your "stalker".
My, ain't irony a bitch.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
40. The "hypocrisy" has been evident for some time now, josh.. thank you. And, so has the
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 08:39 PM
Jul 2014

attempt to deflect by accusing those pointing it out with accusations of "attacking" or like now.. trying desperately to throw it back at you but failing miserably.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
31. Does have a very strong anti-American whiff to it. Which is against TOS, actually....
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:49 PM
Jul 2014
Don't be a wingnut (right-wing or extreme-fringe).
Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office. Teabaggers, Neo-cons, Dittoheads, Paulites, Freepers, Birthers, and right-wingers in general are not welcome here. Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

Some step right up to the "America-haters" line, and in some cases, go over it in a big way.

reorg

(3,317 posts)
33. What is an "America-hater", please?
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:57 PM
Jul 2014

I labored for weeks or even months to get the Wikipedia article on "Anti-Americanism" in line with reality but gave up in the end. (Haven't looked at how it has developed since, either). I have a pretty good idea what I am talking about, so, please no cheap slogans: how do you define "America-hater"?

reorg

(3,317 posts)
3. He was reported to be missing until a few hours ago
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jul 2014

and some sources said he was dead. so I thought it worth mentioning that he is alive and well.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. How many independent journalists are allowed to operate in the 'people's republics?'
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:00 PM
Jul 2014

In general, allowing agents of the enemy to operate freely doesn't happen in war time. Russia being an all-but-declared combatant in the war against Ukraine's government, its agents should expect to be treated as such.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
6. Or held by the rebels and beaten
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:20 PM
Jul 2014

At least this didn't get the beating that the so called "rebels" have given the journalist they've held for weeks.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. Graham Phillips deported from Ukraine
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:08 PM
Jul 2014

Graham Phillips, an RT contributor covering the conflict in eastern Ukraine, has been deported to the UK, following his arrest at Donetsk airport on Tuesday night.

http://rt.com/news/175676-ukraine-deport-rt-contributor/

reorg

(3,317 posts)
8. got a source?
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:27 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Fri Jul 25, 2014, 09:03 PM - Edit history (1)

(before editing his post, user had claimed Phillips already had been deported before he was detained yet again.)

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
12. Oops, not deported, detained and released:
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jul 2014

Lied about why they were in Ukraine:

In a short video message released on Tuesday, cameraman Marat Saichenko admitted that the pair had entered Ukraine on the pretence they were going to a concert, and not as journalists.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/21/british-journalist-graham-phillips-detained-east-ukraine

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
23. Right, so once in Ukraine territory, he was no longer accredited.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 09:38 PM
Jul 2014

And his visa must long since have expired.

Poor Graham, can't hit on Ukrainian girls anymore.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
9. Well that puts a whole new complexion on the issue. He was a lawbreaker. I'm glad he's alive, but
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 08:27 PM
Jul 2014

I can't blame Ukraine for this definitive action.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
22. Glad he is well and hope the
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 09:23 PM
Jul 2014

rebels release the CNN journalist unharmed.

A Ukrainian journalist working as a freelancer for CNN remains in detention two days after he was detained by pro-Russian separatists.

Armed men from the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic seized Anton Skiba outside a hotel in the separatist-controlled city of Donetsk after he had worked for one day with a CNN television crew.



Graham Phillips should have been kicked out for what he was doing. Journalists are supposed to report unbiased and he was not and was actively on the rebel side. He also now seemed to have been in the country illegally and was deported. I wonder if Russia would be so nice?

delrem

(9,688 posts)
28. Journalists in wartime are heros.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 10:02 PM
Jul 2014

Goya: The Disasters of War.

eta: I'm not *quite* so pickily one-sided as you, though.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
32. "I wonder if Russia would be so nice?" There's no American equivalent of RT in Russia.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:52 PM
Jul 2014

So I'm gonna vote NO.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
41. CNN's the equivalent of Kremlin funded RT? How the hell does that work?
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 04:44 AM
Jul 2014
Foundation

[edit]"The creation of Russia Today was a part of a larger PR effort by the Russian government intended to improve the image of Russia abroad.[8] RT was conceived by former media minister Mikhail Lesin,[9] and Vladimir Putin's press spokesperson Aleksei Gromov.[10] At the time of RT's founding, RIA Novosti director Svetlana Mironyuk stated: "Unfortunately, at the level of mass consciousness in the West, Russia is associated with three words: communism, snow and poverty," and added "We would like to present a more complete picture of life in our country."[9] It is registered as an autonomous nonprofit organization[11][12] funded by the federal budget of Russia through the Federal Agency on Press and Mass Communications of the Russian Federation."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

reorg

(3,317 posts)
42. not in Russian
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 05:49 AM
Jul 2014

but, according to Wikipedia, a number of other American-based cable channels have Russian subsidiaries.

State-sponsored US propaganda is still broadcasted on Radio, nowadays they also have websites, of course.

Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL) is a broadcaster funded by the U.S. government that provides "news, information, and analysis" to countries in Eastern Europe, Central Asia, and the Middle East "where the free flow of information is either banned by government authorities or not fully developed".[3] RFE/RL is supervised by the Broadcasting Board of Governors, a bi-partisan federal agency overseeing all U.S. international broadcasting services.[4]

They were founded as an anti-communist news source in 1949 by the National Committee for a Free Europe, as part of a large-scale Psychological Operation during the Cold War. RFE/RL received funds from the Central Intelligence Agency until 1972.[5] During the earliest years of Radio Free Europe's existence, the CIA and the U.S. Department of State issued broad policy directives, and a system evolved where broadcast policy was determined through negotiation among the CIA, the U.S. State Department, and RFE staff.[6]

RFE/RL was headquartered at Englischer Garten in Munich, Germany, from 1949 to 1995. In 1995, the headquarters were moved to Prague in the Czech Republic. European operations have been significantly reduced since the end of the Cold War. In addition to the headquarters, the service maintains 20 local bureaus in countries throughout their broadcast region, as well as a corporate office in Washington, D.C. RFE/RL broadcasts in 28 languages[7] to 21 countries[8] including Armenia, Russia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq.[9]

RFE/RL Broadcast Region 2009

Igel

(35,268 posts)
37. Yes.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jul 2014

He was arrested in his hotel room. He'd been followed before that and arrested after something like 1 day working for CNN. (He'd worked for some local media before this.)

He reported that they had a pretty thick set of charges against him--spying, sedition, with materials collected from the web and from interviews.

No word of Skiba's detention in the Russia press, which was all a-twitter about the RT guy.

Russia wasn't so nice. There was a reporter who showed up for the Savchenko affair in Voronezh. Ukr reporters aren't being given visas if covering that case is their reason for being in the less-than-cental town of Voronezh. They arrested him and he's currently held in jail, charges filed against him, pending his court hearing. (The Savchenko business is being tightly managed in the media.)

reorg

(3,317 posts)
38. Journalist detained working for CNN in Ukraine is freed
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 12:52 PM
Jul 2014
(CNN) -- A Ukrainian journalist detained Tuesday by pro-Russian rebels while working as a freelance producer for CNN has been freed.

Anton Skiba called CNN on Saturday to confirm his release. CNN also received visual confirmation that Skiba is free from sources on the ground in Donetsk.

On Tuesday evening, armed fighters led by a senior official from the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic were waiting outside the Donbass Palace Hotel, in the rebel-controlled city of Donetsk, as CNN television crew returned from a day's work at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.

Skiba had worked for one day with the CNN crew when he was detained.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/26/world/europe/ukraine-cnn-freelancer-freed/index.html?iref=allsearch
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