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alp227

(32,018 posts)
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 07:59 PM Jul 2014

Jesse Ventura wins $1.84M in defamation suit; jurors vote 8-2

Source: Mpls Star Tribune

Jesse Ventura won his defamation case against the estate of author Chris Kyle, a former U.S. Navy SEAL who said he punched out the former Minnesota governor for criticizing the SEALs’ role in the Iraq war.

The jury awarded a total of $1.845 million: $500,000 in defamation damages and $1.345 million for “unjust enrichment” — or to be specific, $1,345,477.25.

Jurors could not reach a unanimous verdict, as instructed. Instead, with the consent of both sides, they voted 8 to 2 in Ventura’s favor.

Ventura was not in the courtroom when the verdict was read.

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/local/269042071.html?page=all&prepage=1

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Jesse Ventura wins $1.84M in defamation suit; jurors vote 8-2 (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2014 OP
Good For Him, I Have Alot of Respect for Jesse Ventura Corey_Baker08 Jul 2014 #1
Hell Yeah billhicks76 Jul 2014 #2
Yep. About everything. Based on what people ballyhoo Jul 2014 #4
If only Politicalboi Jul 2014 #6
The truth will finally come out. The perps. The hirees. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #11
Yes, an operation that would have to involve hundreds if not thousands, sure....... 7962 Jul 2014 #17
Kennedy's? heaven05 Jul 2014 #18
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #19
911 "false flag" argument is moronic MNBrewer Jul 2014 #7
Wow billhicks76 Jul 2014 #9
disintigrating towers and lions and bears mallard Jul 2014 #15
Ad hominem attacks are the best way to assuage others from fact finding. laserhaas Jul 2014 #27
that is so awesome, I'm going to use it in my class. yurbud Jul 2014 #41
Knowledge is power. If all KNOW the GOP playbook schemes laserhaas Jul 2014 #43
I say False Flag. I don't give two bird's eggs ballyhoo Jul 2014 #10
"False flag hit?" question everything Jul 2014 #25
I was hoping that was why Washington went into apeshit overdrive over Snowden yurbud Jul 2014 #40
Really? Had no idea that DU had its Jesse Ventura fanclub. alp227 Jul 2014 #8
No he's not cpwm17 Jul 2014 #12
You actually understand 9/11. Shemp Howard Jul 2014 #13
You mean 9/11 was blowback from Clinton era atrocities? hughee99 Jul 2014 #33
Clinton had been president for eight years shortly before 9-11 cpwm17 Jul 2014 #35
Until AE911Truth gets its Bill passed in NYC (to have an investigation) - We'll never know the laserhaas Jul 2014 #26
good for him santroy79 Jul 2014 #3
Jesse's a good man 90-percent Jul 2014 #5
Glad to see all the support for Ventura annm4peace Jul 2014 #14
In 2006 Ventua was a 'scruff face'. Jenoch Jul 2014 #29
Jesse is just alright by me... ReRe Jul 2014 #16
I just saw Jesse Ventura on CBS and I onecent Jul 2014 #20
I saw it too. Poor Nora. We criticize interviewers when they just swallow what they are told question everything Jul 2014 #24
Personally I love Jesse Ventura. I like ANYONE who stands onecent Jul 2014 #30
A portrayal of the late Chris Kyle (defendant) is in order here. DinahMoeHum Jul 2014 #21
it'll get tossed on appeal. As it should be. 7962 Jul 2014 #23
Why should it be tossed on appeal? Mnpaul Jul 2014 #28
Thank you...I am glad to hear more about this case, as I wasn't onecent Jul 2014 #31
The local liberal radio station Mnpaul Jul 2014 #32
I very much agree with you Mnpaul!!! n/t onecent Jul 2014 #34
Jesse Ventura is not "pretty sick". Jenoch Jul 2014 #37
Ok Jenoch, don't get your panties in a wad! I onecent Jul 2014 #42
James Janos got a blood clot almost 30 years ago. Jenoch Jul 2014 #44
Good for Jesse Reter Jul 2014 #22
What happened here? savalez Jul 2014 #36
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #38
holy smokes. savalez Jul 2014 #39
 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
4. Yep. About everything. Based on what people
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 10:03 PM
Jul 2014

are seeing now with all the spy crap, more may believe 911 was just another false flag hit.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
11. The truth will finally come out. The perps. The hirees.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 11:42 PM
Jul 2014

The explosives used. And on and on... It's being squashed right now. I believe someone knows.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
17. Yes, an operation that would have to involve hundreds if not thousands, sure.......
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:32 AM
Jul 2014

The "missing passengers', the "jet didnt hit the pentagon", the WEEKS it would take to rig bldgs like the WTC, and lets not forget Rosie O'Donnells brilliant declaration that for the first time "fire melted steel"! ALL of this nonsense has been shown to be a bunch of crap. Not to mention, when was the last time the govt could keep a secret involving so many people?
Good lord

Response to 7962 (Reply #17)

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
7. 911 "false flag" argument is moronic
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jul 2014

and so is anyone who makes it. What "false flag"? Saudi Arabia??

mallard

(569 posts)
15. disintigrating towers and lions and bears
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 03:31 AM
Jul 2014

Re: '911 "false flag" argument is moronic'

The drumbeat continues as hardline defense. Intimidation by insult R us.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
43. Knowledge is power. If all KNOW the GOP playbook schemes
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 03:34 PM
Jul 2014

Then they would be much less effective!

question everything

(47,470 posts)
25. "False flag hit?"
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:27 AM
Jul 2014

You mean, there were not four planes hijacked and flown into buildings, with one wrestle to the ground? There were not more than 3000 people murdered?

Or, worse, the conspiracy that our country was behind the attack? Oh, I know. It was Israel. Why not?



yurbud

(39,405 posts)
40. I was hoping that was why Washington went into apeshit overdrive over Snowden
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 03:04 PM
Jul 2014

there might be some 9/11 related material in what he took.

Or the drug stuff.

That's a pretty big deal too.

alp227

(32,018 posts)
8. Really? Had no idea that DU had its Jesse Ventura fanclub.
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jul 2014

I agree with him on certain issues like war, drugs, and health care (he SUPPORTS single payer), but Ventura is way off the rails on most other issues.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
12. No he's not
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 11:52 PM
Jul 2014

9-11 was revenge for US (and US supported) atrocities in Lebanon, Iraq, and Palestine; US bases in Saudi Arabia from where the US constantly bombed Iraq throughout much of the 1990's; plus US support for abusive dictators – blow-back. If you don't understand that you know nothing about 9-11.

We should think about that while US tax dollars are being used to destroy so many lives right now in the ME.

The hijackers were also made brave by their crazy religious beliefs.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
13. You actually understand 9/11.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:45 AM
Jul 2014

Everything you said is correct. Unfortunately, most Americans fell for Bush's "they hate us for our freedoms" nonsense, as if 9/11 happened because Americans can vote for their school board members.

None of this justifies 9/11. It was an evil thing, and Bush was right to try to punish them (even though he bungled the job). But at least everyone should be honest about what provoked the attack in the first place.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
33. You mean 9/11 was blowback from Clinton era atrocities?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:01 PM
Jul 2014

Perhaps people have been blaming the wrong president all along.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
35. Clinton had been president for eight years shortly before 9-11
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:35 PM
Jul 2014

Many of the provocations for 9-11 happened on his watch, including this atrocity:



Here's Osama in his own words:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11353759#post97

This means the oppressing and embargoing to death of millions as Bush Sr did in Iraq in the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known, and it means the throwing of millions of pounds of bombs and explosives at millions of children - also in Iraq - as Bush Jr did, in order to remove an old agent and replace him with a new puppet to assist in the pilfering of Iraq's oil and other outrages.

So with these images and their like as their background, the events of September 11th came as a reply to those great wrongs, should a man be blamed for defending his sanctuary?

Is defending oneself and punishing the aggressor in kind, objectionable terrorism? If it is such, then it is unavoidable for us.

This is the message which I sought to communicate to you in word and deed, repeatedly, for years before September 11th.

Both HW Bush and Clinton helped provoke 9-11. Clinton also contributed to the embargo that starved to death many Iraqis, in addition to his constant bombing of Iraq from Saudi soil and doing nothing while Israel committed atrocious against Lebanon. The hijackers themselves were motivated especially by Israel's actions.

"Truthers", like Jesse Ventura, help the war mongers by distracting the American public from the truth.
 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
26. Until AE911Truth gets its Bill passed in NYC (to have an investigation) - We'll never know the
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jul 2014

whole truth.

Thus far, all we have is government propaganda!

annm4peace

(6,119 posts)
14. Glad to see all the support for Ventura
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:15 AM
Jul 2014

in the last 10 years of living here in MN, I have seen Jesse twice. 1x with Occupy MN and he was very down to earth interacting with the young people and with the Veterans (mostly Vets for Peace).. and then joined the 1000+. mostly natives march to the Metrodome to protest Washington DC football team. He was again gracious with the Vets..

When I heard what the sniper said about Jesse on Fox show I knew it was a lie right away. besides the guy said basic Fox Hannity talking points.

also.. "scurf face" is not a really a way to describe Jesse.. he doesn't have much facial hair. Scruff face is usually a way to describe someone with a hairy face/beard.. etc.


So I am glad Jesse won. He deserved it.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
29. In 2006 Ventua was a 'scruff face'.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jul 2014

He had a long beard with two long braids.

You might not have liked him so much back when he was governor.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
20. I just saw Jesse Ventura on CBS and I
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:30 AM
Jul 2014

think that Nora O'donnell was a bit snippity to him. Who does she think she is? He, of course, made it clear she was going down all the wrong paths. I swear these anchors are just suppose to give us the news not try to sway our opinion...har har

If it wasn't for Charlie Rose I wouldn't watch their morning show anyway!!!

question everything

(47,470 posts)
24. I saw it too. Poor Nora. We criticize interviewers when they just swallow what they are told
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 10:24 AM
Jul 2014

and we criticize them when they punch hard.

I did not have problem with that. Certainly was different.

Still, like many in Minnesota I would agree with "what good name?" "what honor" He has been a joke.

But I did take notice when he said that essentially he was blamed for treason, which in the military calls for the death sentence.

So, I suppose, good for him.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
30. Personally I love Jesse Ventura. I like ANYONE who stands
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:13 AM
Jul 2014

up for what the believe even if I don't agree with them. I wish I had that trait myself, because I rarely say what I really think. I think people in this world are much to passive about what goes on with our government AND especially our news. We are rarely hearing the truth.

I'm not ranting at you btw, thanks for your comment!!

DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
21. A portrayal of the late Chris Kyle (defendant) is in order here.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:32 AM
Jul 2014
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/07/death_of_an_american_sniper/

A real piece of work, this guy was. I'm glad Ventura won his case in court.

Must suck to be Kyle's wife and children right now, though.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
28. Why should it be tossed on appeal?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:00 AM
Jul 2014

Even Kyle couldn't keep his own story straight. One account has the fight occurring at the bar, another on the patio. None of Kyle's witnesses were in the immediate area and all of them told different stories. One woman sitting at the bar next to Jesse saw no fight, neither did the guy who put on the event. None of family members who were the targets of Jesse's alleged comments testified to them. The woman sitting at the bar heard comments that are exactly opposite of what Kyle claimed.

As Jesse pointed out this morning, he is on blood thinners and would have shown evidence of a fight. It was pretty damn clear that this was a fabrication by most of the evidence.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
31. Thank you...I am glad to hear more about this case, as I wasn't
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:18 AM
Jul 2014

aware of it until today. Since you must be from Minn. it appears you were able to learn alot more. THANKS for the info. Jesse seems to be failing in health and that makes me sad. He was shaking and then when he said he was on blood thinner, I know he is pretty sick. Jesse was also a SEAL, I did not know that. What an amazing man!!!!!!! I wish more people with balls would run for congress!!!!!!

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
32. The local liberal radio station
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jul 2014

had on a guy who is following the trial. Minnpost also has good coverage. Most of the local media has refused to cover actual details of the trial. I think they are still hurt from Jesse's attack on them. Jesse made them wear badges that said "media jackal" at the capital when he was gov. I wonder if he has any left? He should send one to Nora

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
37. Jesse Ventura is not "pretty sick".
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jul 2014

He is on blood thinners because he had a blood clot.

If you saw him being interviewed on TV and he was 'shaking', that is not because he is sick, it's just a nervous habit that he has had for decades.

He also was not a Navy SEAL. he was a UDT (Underwater Demolition Team) Frogman. There is a difference. SEALS saw combat (a lot) in Vietnam. Jesse Ventura (James Janos) spent his time at Subic Bay in the Philipines. UDT merged with the SEAL teams in 1983.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
42. Ok Jenoch, don't get your panties in a wad! I
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 03:27 PM
Jul 2014

am a 69 year old widow..and he reminds me of my husband during his last year. A blood clot is a blood clot is a blood clot. I never saw him shake before...so sorry if I missed it...he did not have this nervous habit when I saw him.

According to Jesse ON CBS this morning he was a Navy Seal and according to this article:

Read more here:
http://sofrep.com/36086/truth-jesse-venturas-navy-seal-status/


It’s why the UDT is still part of the training acronym BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL).

Like it or not, Jesse Ventura is a Navy SEAL. He did the pushups and put up with the cold water, just like the rest of us.

If I quoted something from a fairy tale book, sue me.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
44. James Janos got a blood clot almost 30 years ago.
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 09:43 PM
Jul 2014

Because of that, Jesse Ventura had to quit wrestling.

Sure, the initial BUD/S training, where more than 80% flunk out, was the same for UDT and SEALS from 1962 to 1983. UDT members were merged into SEAL teams in 1983. While both were active, SEAL teams and UDT had very different missions. UDT did demolition work under water, when needed, which involved clearing some reefs off the coast of Vietnam in the 1960s. They did not go on shore. Meanwhile, the SEALs were part of the brown water Navy in Vietnam.

Jesse has had the nervous shaking habit ever since I saw him as the Mayor of Brooklym Park more than 30 years ago. Just because you had not seen it does not make it true.

Why all the angst? Why the interest in my underwear. I certainly have zero interest in yours. (Argh...)

savalez

(3,517 posts)
36. What happened here?
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jul 2014
Kyle was killed in an unrelated incident in 2013, when he was shot by a veteran he was mentoring...

Response to savalez (Reply #36)

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