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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:09 PM Aug 2014

State of emergency declared in Lucas County after toxins found in Toledo water

Source: Toledo Blade

"A state of emergency was declared today in Lucas County and the greater Toledo area after tests at the Collins Park water-treatment plant in East Toledo produced two toxin sample readings.

Chemists testing water at Collins Park plant found two sample readings for microcystin -- a toxin that is released by algae blooms -- that exceeded the recommended “do not drink” standard of one microgram per liter standard. About 400,000 people in and around Ohio‘s fourth-largest city are affected.‍

Within hours after the warning was issued, Ohio Gov. John Kasich declared a state of emergency for Toledo and the surrounding areas affected, including Fulton County. Early today, residents descended on stores, quickly clearing shelves of bottled water.

Toledo Mayor D. Michael Collins and health leaders asked residents to remain calm and said they may have answers later today on when Toledo-area water supply will be safe to drink again. Water samples were sent to Michigan and Cincinnati for testing; a third sample is headed to Columbus at about 3:30 today. Mayor D. Michael Collins said each test is different and will allow a “triangulation” of tests. The mayor declined to say when test results might be available. He did not want to “put a burden of time” on results."

Read more: http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2014/08/02/City-of-Toledo-issues-do-no-drink-water-advisery.html



Don't know about you however, this is a bit concerning indeed. Let's see. Detroit - Water Shut Off Crisis, California -- Water Drought and limiting of Water Resources for reservation purposes, Toledo, Ohio -- No One Can Drink the Water, Period.

Ran into a lady from Toledo, Ohio this morning on the way to a weekly political forum at Speedway.

The nice lady, "I hope he (the cashier) won't think I'm crazy having to buy 10 cases of bottled water.

Reply, "What's wrong? Are you living in Detroit?"

Nice Lady, "No, I'm from Toledo. They just declared a water emergency and we can't drink or boil our water."

Reply, "What the hell?".

Nice Lady, "In fact, they are saying the water is contaminated from Lake Erie."

Reply, but thought in head first (Oh, Shit --- Lake Erie -- Hello our water in S.E. Michigan could be at risk for contamination too), "Wow....just wow. We have not heard a peep about this on local news. Will tell others. Thanks and hope you'll will be okay."

Ummm...is anyone else concerned? Just wondering.

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State of emergency declared in Lucas County after toxins found in Toledo water (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 OP
Horrible news! In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #1
Already posted alp227 Aug 2014 #2
Checked the Breaking News Forum.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #3
(Host FYI aside) Since DU3 there are no Moderators. There's a revolving team of forum hosts. pinto Aug 2014 #17
here's the other post/discussion on this wordpix Aug 2014 #35
Thanks for the update BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #4
Thanks.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #7
"backdate" NASA image 2011 shows algae blooms in L. Erie wordpix Aug 2014 #37
The Toledo Blade had a current image BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #38
OK...when do we see a map of all the fracking wells in the area? Clyde Tenson Aug 2014 #5
There is fracking in that area... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #8
The GOP, in cahoots with the frackers, made it a FELONY to discover/communicate the fracking recipe blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #20
40 years or so ago people would have laughed at selling bottled water. zeemike Aug 2014 #6
UPDATE: Toledo water advisory stretches to other cities, townships OhioChick Aug 2014 #9
Sylvania..... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #11
Algae bloom here in WV hollowdweller Aug 2014 #10
Yet, a disconnect with continue, probably until.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #12
Time for the yearly mid to late summer Lake Erie algal blooms. roamer65 Aug 2014 #13
Thanks.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #15
Np. One main thing for those folks to remember. roamer65 Aug 2014 #16
plenty of phosphorus from lawn fertilizer as well. lululu Aug 2014 #18
Bingo. roamer65 Aug 2014 #25
In other words: "Nothing to see here, folks. Move along." blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #21
Mass hysteria. roamer65 Aug 2014 #23
Hysteria.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #26
I would be hysterical if I had to water my livestock wordpix Aug 2014 #36
Another Toledo Blade Update..... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #14
Some have been looking at mitigating this increasing problem, but more FailureToCommunicate Aug 2014 #22
FRACKING blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #19
To be honest, it's highly unlikely Fracking has anything to do with this. BlueEye Aug 2014 #30
Awful Aerows Aug 2014 #24
Exactly.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #27
We didn't have water Aerows Aug 2014 #28
No noTional news coverage? Sienna86 Aug 2014 #29
It was on the news here in Tucson, Arizona last night n/t Michigan-Arizona Aug 2014 #34
"state of emergency" on the increase. The USA has a dark and foreboding future IMO. L0oniX Aug 2014 #31
When will people put 2 + 2 together??? not fooled Aug 2014 #32
Here, Here!!!! LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #33

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
3. Checked the Breaking News Forum....
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:15 PM
Aug 2014

Did not see it. Thanks. I'm sure the Moderators will combine, however this situation in Toledo, OH is quite serious.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
17. (Host FYI aside) Since DU3 there are no Moderators. There's a revolving team of forum hosts.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 07:15 PM
Aug 2014

And the combine thread function is no longer in use. Just wanted to clarify that.

BumRushDaShow

(128,894 posts)
4. Thanks for the update
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:19 PM
Aug 2014

and yes, this was posted earlier but the "state of emergency" mention is new.

Good luck to all of you there. I was considering but these are really different issues that you mention. The various weather websites have been discussing the terrible algae bloom in Lake Erie and there are all sorts of cities in various states that might be impacted depending on how their water treatment systems handle it.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
7. Thanks....
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:27 PM
Aug 2014

Yes, these can be look at as different issues, however, there is one connecting occurrence. Access to fresh water. That's scary indeed.

 

Clyde Tenson

(65 posts)
5. OK...when do we see a map of all the fracking wells in the area?
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:25 PM
Aug 2014

Or is that information no longer available, along with the recipe of the chemical cocktail that's being injected into the underground strata? You see, that's why we don't need those pesky (anti freedom) regulations. When that shit shows up in our water supply, gee, where did that come from? This country continues to fuck itself. Money in politics is the viagara that's providing the thrust.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
8. There is fracking in that area...
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:33 PM
Aug 2014

In S.E. Michigan, especially in the Blissfield - Adrian, MI line that runs up and near the Michigan - Ohio Border. In Monroe County also (where the land is more rural than populated).

What's going on in Lake Erie might indeed be caused by excess Algae Bloom. but....maybe I just don't remember when excess Algae Bloom has led to an entire area, just below us in S.E. MI, being cut off (less hope temporarity) to water.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
20. The GOP, in cahoots with the frackers, made it a FELONY to discover/communicate the fracking recipe
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 08:18 PM
Aug 2014

in NC

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
6. 40 years or so ago people would have laughed at selling bottled water.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:25 PM
Aug 2014

Now it is a thriving busness...so no need to spend money on infrastructure or clean up the polution...it is good for business.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
9. UPDATE: Toledo water advisory stretches to other cities, townships
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:51 PM
Aug 2014

Below is a list of all the areas affected:

ALL of Lucas County
Parts of Fulton County (excluding Swanton)
Toledo
Perrysburg
Perrysburg Township
Bedford Township
Walbridge
Northwood
Troy Township
Rossford
Lake Township
Maumee
Sylvania
Ottawa Hills
Erie Township
Village of Metamora
Eastern Swan Creek Township
Village of Whitehouse
Luna Pier
La Salle Township
Springfield Township
Sylvania
Sylvania Township
Waterville
Whitehouse
South County Water Customers - Michigan


http://www.19actionnews.com/story/26180310/update-toledo-water-advisory-stretches-to-other-cities-townships

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
11. Sylvania.....
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 06:04 PM
Aug 2014

Is RIGHT on the Michigan-Ohio Boarder Line up U.S. 23, literally. Areas in Monroe County should be on Alert Next, Especially Blissfield. Oh, this is not good at all. Thanks for the update!

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
12. Yet, a disconnect with continue, probably until....
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 06:27 PM
Aug 2014

Little to no fresh water is left in the U.S.of A. to drink. Thanks for the information and extreme

From the link above:

"A nearly three-month-long investigation by state and federal regulators eventually tied the kill to an invasive algae species known as golden algae (Prymnesium parvum). Yet golden algae offered only a partial explanation for the disaster. It may have been the immediate reason for the kill, but it wasn’t the underlying cause. The algae itself cannot survive in freshwater; it thrives only in marine-like environments. Somehow, a freshwater, inland ecosystem had become salty enough for the algae to grow and multiply.

How did this Appalachian stream become as salty as the oceans? There is no single answer, no smoking gun. The contaminated water might have come from acid mine drainage discharges – outflow of wastewater from nearby coalmines, which has been occurring for decades. It might also be tied to natural gas drilling in the Marcellus Shale, a relatively new industry in the region. Or perhaps it was a toxic cocktail of both.

The complexity of the disaster has allowed the company most likely responsible for destroying the stream, Consol Energy, to deny wrongdoing."

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
13. Time for the yearly mid to late summer Lake Erie algal blooms.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 06:29 PM
Aug 2014

Detroit area has nothing to worry about since it's water is drawn from southern Lake Huron. I went shopping today and saw affected people from 40+ miles away pushing out shopping carts full of bottled water. Hopefully we get a SW wind to blow the bloom out to the middle of the lake. Microcystin can be removed from the water but it's a more expensive process.

It's the agricultural runoff, folks. Algae love phosphorus.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
15. Thanks....
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 06:33 PM
Aug 2014

Hopefully the situation in N.E. Ohio, Southern Michigan with the Water gets better soon. I'll be staying on alert on this issue.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. Np. One main thing for those folks to remember.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 06:40 PM
Aug 2014

Don't buy fresh fruit or fresh vegetables from the affected area grocery stores. They may have been washed or sprayed with the contaminated water.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
23. Mass hysteria.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 08:36 PM
Aug 2014


Adequate drinking water supplies will be brought in via the Red Cross and National Guard. No doubt they will upgrade their water treatment facilities to remove the microcystin. People will help out, I did this morning by helping a coworker from the affected area get adequate drinking water. At times like this, the generosity of people amazes me.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
26. Hysteria....
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 12:35 AM
Aug 2014

While folks are still cut off from using the water? Really? #SMH.....

Update from the Toledo Blade as of TWO HOURS ago....


"Toledo’s public water will remain under a do-not-drink advisory until at least 6 a.m. Sunday pending the return of results from test samples sent out to three different laboratories, Mayor D. Michael Collins said during an evening news conference.

Results from tests sent to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in Cincinnati and to a state laboratory in Columbus were expected in later today, but test results from Lake Superior State University in Sault Ste. Marie, Mich., won’t be in until Sunday morning, the mayor said.

City officials also have sent a second sample to U.S. EPA at that agency’s request, Mr. Collins said.

From those three samples, Mr. Collins said, city officials hope to “triangulate” the condition of Toledo’s treated water, which city tests conducted Friday night and early Saturday indicated is contaminated with microcystin toxin, a product of burgeoning algae blooms on Lake Erie. The result was a water crisis that has affected 500,000 water users in and around Toledo and caused Ohio Gov. John Kasich to declare a state of emergency.

The data from the two city tests, the mayor said, “is very confusing for everyone” -- a key reason why Toledo has sought outside analysis.

“We really don’t have a true answer. One set of tests is different from the other,” he said. “...We don’t know for sure these [city] tests are proof positive, but certainly we’re not taking any risks.”

Mr. Collins was confident, however, that the algae crisis will bring about permanent change in how Lake Erie and other natural resources are managed. He faulted agricultural fertilizer runoff, sewage overflows “up in Michigan,” and other pollution for Toledo’s problem.

“I don’t believe we’ll ever be back to normal,” the mayor said. “But this is not going to be our new normal. We’re going to fix this. Our city is not going to be abandoned.”


Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2014/08/02/City-of-Toledo-issues-do-no-drink-water-advisery.html#cGXDJdYWT0lxxH3s.99

Yet, for some folks, its' Hysteria.....

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
36. I would be hysterical if I had to water my livestock
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 02:30 PM
Aug 2014

Not to mention buy bottled water and absorb the toxin through my skin when I wash up

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
14. Another Toledo Blade Update.....
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 06:31 PM
Aug 2014

Water distribution centers set up across area

"A few fine Lima residents are organizing a water drive today and plan to bring cases of water to a West Toledo Kroger to give out water to folks who need it.

Beth Edwards, who is spearheading the drive, said she hopes to recruit a few more drivers before the trek north, and anticipates bringing more than 100 cases of water. At 2 p.m. she's asking people to drop off donations at Chief' Super Market, 2100 Harding Hwy. Once their vehicles are loaded with as much water as they can get, they will bring it to Kroger, 4533 Monroe St., and give it away for free. They expect to be in Toledo by about 5 p.m.

“I feel like Toledo is just like our sister city,” Ms. Edwards said. “There are so many people in our community with family and friends in Toledo, there's got to be something we can all do to help out.”


http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2014/08/02/Blade-union-reach-pact-on-decision-to-outsource.html

FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
22. Some have been looking at mitigating this increasing problem, but more
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 08:25 PM
Aug 2014

the 'ambulance at the bottom of the cliff rather than a fence at the top' type of solution.

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/microtox.htm

BlueEye

(449 posts)
30. To be honest, it's highly unlikely Fracking has anything to do with this.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 09:50 AM
Aug 2014

Toledo draws it's water from an inlet nearly a mile out into Lake Erie, it's hard to imagine how contamination from deep underground well injection could make its way into the lake AND be in significant enough concentration to create a detectable contamination (think eyedropper in a swimming pool).

It's already been reported that algal blooms are likely responsible. There *may* be a human element of cause, insofar as lasting pollution into Lake Erie may have altered the pH such that the toxic algae grows more readily. There's also the potential that increased warming of the water could facilitate algae growth. But that is purely speculation.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
28. We didn't have water
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 02:10 AM
Aug 2014

for 3 weeks after Katrina. I ended up bathing in a pond when I went with one of my friends to check on her horse.

When it finally came on, it was like Christmas. We ran around flushing every toilet in the house and I was giddy.

Do they at least have water for the toilets? Because that is the part that sucks BIG TIME without water.

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
29. No noTional news coverage?
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 07:28 AM
Aug 2014

Scanned the usual channels yesterday after hearing of this on the internet. May have missed it.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
31. "state of emergency" on the increase. The USA has a dark and foreboding future IMO.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:56 AM
Aug 2014

Water shortages due to climate, privatization of what was public water sources and water sources destroyed by fracking all in the works now.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
32. When will people put 2 + 2 together???
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 12:32 PM
Aug 2014

Really...how much more do even the most confirmed Faux-bots need to experience or hear about--damaged ecosystems, polluted water, unusable resources--before they realize that deregulation does not = better quality of life?

Well, the Reptilicans have had quite a run out of their ALEC-fueled agenda...but how much longer can they get away with it? We can only hope not too much more pushing the nation off the cliff before policy starts turning around. That things even got to this point attests to the power of propaganda and the pernicious effects of destroying civics education and keeping the populace ignorant and frightened.

At present, unfortunately, we are still in a self-reinforcing cycle of more $$ in politics-->more corruption and selling out of America-->more $$ in politics.

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