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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 05:51 PM Aug 2014

House Intelligence chief Rogers doesn't think CIA spied on Senate

Source: The Hill / CNN

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) said Sunday he doesn’t think the CIA spied on the Senate.

Rogers said it’s clear that someone at the CIA “overstepped their bounds,” but he also defended the agency during an interview on CNN's "State of the Union."

The House intelligence chief said the story of the CIA’s dispute with the Senate is a complicated one, but he added that the “notion” that the CIA “hacked” into congressional computers” is wrong.

“Remember, these weren’t Senate computers, these were CIA computers at the CIA,” he said.

“Somebody needs to be held accountable. This is very serious. But I don’t think this is some conspiracy notion that they wanted to spy on either of our committees,” Rogers said. “That of course would be intolerable. I think (it) would be a crime.


Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/technology/214172-rogers-doesnt-think-cia-spied-on-senate



So, CIA and Friends are gonna make out like it's all the Senate's fault.
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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
1. Makes ya wonder what they got on Rogers.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 05:57 PM
Aug 2014

Clandestine affair?

Bribes from Arabs?

Maybe simple kickbacks on government contracts?

LiberalFighter

(50,739 posts)
3. Exactly!
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 06:05 PM
Aug 2014

Which would also demonstrate they operated outside the scope of their function. At least perceived by the rest of us.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. ''You can't have your privacy violated if you don't know your privacy is violated.''
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 06:10 PM
Aug 2014
Watch Rep. Mike Rogers Give the Most Pathetic Defense Of NSA Spying Yet

By Rachel Pincus
News.mic, Nov. 1, 2013

Are you a date rapist, Peeping Tom, or kleptomaniac? Then you might find an ally in Intelligence Committee Chair Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.). After debating with three panelists at a House Intelligence Committee hearing Thursday about whether the NSA has the right to search business records in pursuit of terrorist connections, Rep. Rogers said, "I would argue the fact that we haven't had any complaints come forward with any specificity arguing that their privacy has been violated, clearly indicates, in 10 years, clearly indicates that something must be doing right. Somebody must be doing something exactly right."

Law Professor Steven Vladek, the only person in the hearing who didn't simply agree with Rogers's views, asked "But who would be complaining?" and Rogers responded, "Somebody whose privacy was violated. You can't have your privacy violated if you don't know your privacy is violated."

Rogers speaks of privacy as if it is a principle that can only be violated as an abstract concept — if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, then it doesn't make a sound because sound is just a concept, right? Wrong. Privacy is more than just conceptual, and if the government has information on someone, they may not be acting on it now, but the possibility of future abuse is always there. And who would complain about abuse that is happening in the future?

CONTINUED...

http://mic.com/articles/71287/watch-rep-mike-rogers-give-the-most-pathetic-defense-of-nsa-spying-yet

They must have film of him playing wingman to Jimmy Savile. The guy quotes Ronald Reagan.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. Secret Government. Secret Agents. Secret Agendas. Secret Beneficiaries.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 06:25 PM
Aug 2014

No Oversight. No Responsibility. No Accountability. No Witnesses.

JFK Conference: David Talbot named Allen Dulles as 'the Chairman of the Board of the Assassination'

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
17. Yes, and Dulles had all the "skill sets" of those employed in Dr. G's Health Alteration Committee.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:18 PM
Aug 2014

I remember some of Dr. Sidney Gottlieb's CIA Health Alteration Committee's Greatest Hits foreign and domestic as well as some of the more recent targets.

The CIA Attempted To Assassinate 50 Foreign Leaders Including Chavez (by William Blum and John Robles via Global Research)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-cia-has-attempted-to-assassinate-50-foreign-leaders-including-chavez/5326864

Yeah, follow the Agency's decreed program people-its the politiCIAns and their "oversight" kabuki responsible for all the wetwork of the US Intelligence Community throughout time and space (lol!).

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Sometimes hearts are broken after investigations does not turn up the aha moment they
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 06:22 PM
Aug 2014

Are hoping will happen. When this first hit the news I thought the CIA was in the different congressional offices with tents over their heads and monitors a d stealing files. Say it ain't so.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. I think it is so. Senate staffers assured they had secure access...
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 06:30 PM
Aug 2014

...then no access and were accused of things they did not do by CIA.

History may not repeat, but it sure does echo. SOP from when George Joannides was appointed to serve as liaison with House Select Committee on Assassinations staff. What he did was obstruct justice.

JFK Conference: Dan Hardway Detailed how CIA Obstructed HSCA Investigation

reACTIONary

(5,763 posts)
9. This whole "CIA spied on the Senate"...
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 07:21 PM
Aug 2014

... affair is just a bureaucratic, in-fighting, pissing match. It has no more significance than Issia pissing and moaning about the IRS not giving him everything he asks for.

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