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Sun Aug 3, 2014, 07:51 PM

Rick Perry shrugs off 1,700 deaths in Gaza: ‘War is a horrible thing’ so people die

Source: Raw Story

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) on Sunday suggested that 1,700 civilians who had died in Gaza — including children — were legitimate targets for Israelis because Hamas was using them as human “shields.”

Last week, Perry called on the United States to provide “vigorous support” for Israel so CNN’s Candy Crowley began her weekly Sunday show by inviting him to share his thoughts on the ongoing fighting in Gaza.

“When you look at 1,700-plus civilian deaths in Gaza — the large majority of which are civilians we are told — what is your thought about that, what is your reaction to that?” Crowley wondered.

“War is a horrible thing,” Perry responded without emotion. “There are individuals who lose their lives in war.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/03/rick-perry-shrugs-off-1700-deaths-in-gaza-war-is-a-horrible-thing-so-people-die/

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Reply Rick Perry shrugs off 1,700 deaths in Gaza: ‘War is a horrible thing’ so people die (Original post)
Galraedia Aug 2014 OP
Judi Lynn Aug 2014 #1
supercats Aug 2014 #2
abovesobelow Aug 2014 #3
bravenak Aug 2014 #5
abovesobelow Aug 2014 #6
bravenak Aug 2014 #8
abovesobelow Aug 2014 #9
bravenak Aug 2014 #12
Psephos Aug 2014 #40
bravenak Aug 2014 #41
LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #21
JDPriestly Aug 2014 #25
bravenak Aug 2014 #26
JDPriestly Aug 2014 #27
bravenak Aug 2014 #30
Leontius Aug 2014 #36
bravenak Aug 2014 #38
MFM008 Aug 2014 #28
LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #43
bravenak Aug 2014 #45
whereisjustice Aug 2014 #14
LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #44
billhicks76 Aug 2014 #18
Scootaloo Aug 2014 #33
freshwest Aug 2014 #4
mackerel Aug 2014 #7
whereisjustice Aug 2014 #10
MFM008 Aug 2014 #11
7962 Aug 2014 #20
Daemonaquila Aug 2014 #13
PatrynXX Aug 2014 #15
aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #16
customerserviceguy Aug 2014 #19
Terra Alta Aug 2014 #17
jonjensen Aug 2014 #22
jonjensen Aug 2014 #23
bvf Aug 2014 #29
JDPriestly Aug 2014 #24
bearssoapbox Aug 2014 #31
Scootaloo Aug 2014 #32
valerief Aug 2014 #34
1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #35
treestar Aug 2014 #37
Ash_F Aug 2014 #39
LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #42

Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:01 PM

1. Governor Evil Idiot. n/t

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:10 PM

2. A Person, And I Use This Term Loosely....

 

Makes a comment like that on national television no less, they have no right to be there, let alone a politician, someone who supposedly cares for human beings let alone supposedly has there best interests at heart. If this asshole even gets a sniff of the presidency our country is doomed!

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:26 PM

3. Hamas fired anti-tank missile from UNRWA school, yard was empty when IDF responded

"The IDF said it completed an investigation into the shelling on Thursday of an UNRWA school in Beit Hanoun, northern Gaza, and found that Hamas terrorists fired at the army from within the school complex. The terrorists fired anti-tank missiles at soldiers, the army added.

The IDF fired several mortar rounds in response. One IDF mortar fell in a yard near the school, which was empty, according to the military."

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Hamas-fired-anti-tank-missile-from-UNRWA-school-yard-was-empty-when-IDF-respond-369116

Basically the apologists suggest that Israel should disarm herself and allow Iran and other other Islamist nations fund terrorism within her borders until THERE IS NO MORE ISRAEL!!!!

Because this is what the radicals w Hamas want, Just like Saddam, hide missiles and weaponry in schools, fire barrages of missiles at populated areas in Israel, then claim victim status when Israel defends herself to TAKE OUT THE GENOCIDAL HAMAS SOLDIERS!!!!

No, I don't think a world where terrorism goes unchecked and unpunished would be a good place, I'd rather not go back to the days where women/children were seen as property, stonings of innocents occurred on a daily basis ordered at the whims of powerful men, and religion LIMITED OUR PURSUIT OF INDEPENDENCE AND FREEDOM!

No thank you!

If a terrorist faction hell bent on converting or killing me STARTS BOMBING MY COUNTRY, I HOPE MY GOVERNMENT USES MY TAX DOLLARS TO BLOW THEM TO DUST!

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Response to abovesobelow (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:46 PM

5. Jpost is a Likud apologist publication.

 

I take anything they say with a grain of salt. I read their comment section Alll the time. Calls for genocide, hatred towards our president and nation. Yeah.

Funny thing about the IDF's explainations..... There is still no justification for killing all those children. And women. And noncombatant males. It seems to me that the IDF is the group doing most of the killing and Hamas is targeting soldiers. I use the death totals provided by the UN. IDF has killed hundreds of chikdren in this operation and Hamas ZERO. Who is the real terrorizer? The one killing babies or the ones who live in an open air prison? I think it's the one killing babies.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:49 PM

6. JPost is a regularly sited, carried by many national mainstream outlets

I've yet to hear anyone, not appearing on Al Jazeera, have a problem with Jpost Content. It's as regularly sited as Washington post, or NYT globally.

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Response to abovesobelow (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:53 PM

8. I have my opinion.

 

They suck.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:55 PM

9. I understand, I just want to put your opinion in context

especially in the face of such conspiratorial allegations about the legitimacy of their content.

It's highly sited, regularly used by mainstream and alternative media outlets across the globe.

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Response to abovesobelow (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 09:10 PM

12. Sure.

 

And plenty of US sites that are considered legitimate are also pro war and pro MIC. Just like JPost.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 02:16 AM

40. Is your contention that we should only read sources that already reflect our views?

I try to read across the spectrum. Selection bias is a drug that leads to absence of critical thinking, and blindness to facts that don't fit assumptions. It should be the other way around.

I don't need to be "enlightened" by JPost et al., just stimulated to not think I have everything figured out already.

Just most of it.

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Response to Psephos (Reply #40)

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 02:19 AM

41. Nope.

 

I read all of it on purpose. That way i'll know who are the war apologists and who are not.

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Response to abovesobelow (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:27 PM

21. The Word is....

Cited as it: "The below paragraph was cited from the Washington Post.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 12:35 AM

25. I have never heard of Jpost, but I do know that Israel has made

every effort to protect its people without taking Palestinian lives -- the wall, the shield and diplomacy.

But the Palestinians were so intent on entering Israel, presumably, based on past history either to kidnap Israelis or to injure and kill them, that they built a complex network of tunnels under Israel that exited within Israel.

How is Israel to respond to such a determined effort to harm its citizens. They took extreme measures to avoid retaliating with force and the Palestinians built tunnels.

I want peace. I want both sides to negotiate. But the Palestinians have to get their extremists under control.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:31 AM

26. Israel has plenty of extremists these days.

 

And they sound worse than Hamas. Maybe Israel should concentrate on that before pointing fingers.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #26)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:36 AM

27. Israel has a well disciplined military. Its "extremists" are not the ones

throwing the rockets. Israel has fairly free speech and is a democracy. So extremists can say what they want, but
I have not heard of any rockets shot or tunnels dug by Israeli extremists.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #27)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 03:15 AM

30. I have seen hundreds of children murdered by the IDF.

 

And that was just in one month. Those rocket shooting extremists haven't killed any with their non 'well disciplined Military'. So, is it any wonder that my generation does NOT support Israel and we are becoming conditioned to NOT support them in the future?

Nothing gives a nation the right to murder civilians without criticism. Not past wrongs, past trauma, history, nothing!

Those living in Gaza are mostly younger than me. I'm 33. They had nothing to do with anything that happened in the past and are being kept from having a secure future by the State of Israel. By bombing UN shelters and the like, Istael has lost the credit and authority to call others extremists or terrorists in my eyes. They need to know that eyes are watching them and they are losing the respect of the world and are losing the goodwill of the next generation.

Nothing can remove the stain of dead children from the hands of the IDF. Nothing.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #30)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 03:17 PM

36. Then why don't they try to build a future of peace

 

revolt against Hamas remove the terrorists from their midst build a future don't live in the past.

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Response to Leontius (Reply #36)

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:24 AM

38. People usually revolt against the people dropping bombs on kiddies.

 

We can all see that Hamas is going after soldiers, not families. Likud is just as bad as Hamas. Th Israeli people need to revolt against their govt, a govt that is murdering children.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:55 AM

28. Then it was a FAIL



for the victims .

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Response to bravenak (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 02:50 AM

43. It was one blogger on JPost who called for genocide, and he was sacked

I'm by no means a fan of JPost, but it doesn't equate with its worst bloggers.

I am entirely opposed to what Israel has been doing here; and also to Hamas. It's not true that Hamas has killed ZERO people. They killed 66 Israelis and one Thai worker. I don't think any were children, but they certainly killed children in the past.


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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #43)

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 03:14 AM

45. I was talking about this conflict.

 

They have killed zero children in the last month and mostly soldiers were among the deaths caused directly by Hamas. I like to read Jpost since it's a bit like reading red state. My favorite is the comments section.

The IDF is switching places with Hamas and are now the biggest killers in the area (palestine/israel)of children, pregnant women, teenagers, and non combatant males. It is terrorism. At one time i despised Hamas, now I don't. Thanks to the IDF. Thanks to the nasty comments made by supoorters of Israel. Grosses me out.

Being an oppressed people does not give people the right to oppress others. Imagine if african americans got given a 'homeland' in Baja California by the UN and then kicked out as many mestizos as they could. Then proceeded to steal their land for generations. Then bombed them for our own safety.

I'm done feeling sorry for people who don't care about the next guy. I'm a millenial. My generation does not support Israel in this. They have changed the way i see them as a nation for the rest of my life. I know nobody cares about what us younger people think about it, but what about in ten years? Twenty? Israel gets my back from now on until they give back what they stole, apologize, make restitution, and leave the Palestinians the fuck alone and work on their own racist, right wing, settler element.

I am not alone.

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Response to abovesobelow (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 09:25 PM

14. Then lets start in Texas, home to some of largest most violent terrorist groups

in nation. They call themselves secessionists, white supremacists, sovereign citizens and a number of of other titles. Let the bombs fall on Texas and rid the nation of this violent threat. Texas shelters these terrorists among the civilian population, so indiscriminate use of force is necessary to eliminate them.

That's what you mean, right?

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Response to whereisjustice (Reply #14)

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 02:54 AM

44. Not to mention Perry himself, confirming the executions of over 250 people in Texas

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Response to abovesobelow (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:36 PM

18. Lies

 

Lies

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Response to abovesobelow (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:20 AM

33. Hyperbole! CAPITAL LETTERS! EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!

 

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:29 PM

4. Sooo, Rick, how's your WAR on the people of Texas going?

The Cost of Cruelty: Republicans are scared to death of exposure of their Medicaid Death Panels

One million Texans will be denied access to coverage if the state continues to reject the Medicaid expansion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024755975

Which of course, Perry has continued to refuse that while denying women's health services.

A look at Camy's OPs show the impact and deaths from Perry's culling the herd scheme.

Those are people, equal under the God you claim to serve, Rick, but we know who you really serve...

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:53 PM

7. Pretty much the same way he's euthanizing people in his fine state.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 08:59 PM

10. The US should attack the terrorist groups protected by Rick Perry with relentless force

Texas is home to a large, violent population of anti-American secessionists and right wing terrorist groups. The leader of the Texas organization is Rick Perry, who admits to fighting back homosexual urges the way an alcoholic fights back booze.

Think of Mr. Perry as the US version of Kim Jong-un. America would be a much safer place without this terrorist threat hanging over our heads.





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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 09:08 PM

11. its interesting

the IDF keeps saying there was no one in the safe-havens when the shells hit. I guess the palestinians just re-use corpses to be telegraphically dead.
Also Rick Perry is the moron who will never be president.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:51 PM

20. Actually the Palestinians are know to use actors as well as fabricated video.

 

Not saying they did it in this case, but they've definitely done it in the recent past. I can think of two times.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 09:20 PM

13. Then I guess abortion should be ok too, if he was consistent.

 

After all, it's a fetus using the mother as a human shield...

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 09:45 PM

15. alas it wasn't a war dimwit

it was a massacre. 3 vs 1700

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:11 PM

16. I saw him on Candy Crawley's show - he keeps saying the word "Izrul" over and over

What's "Izrul"? It's like nails on a chalkboard, whatever he's referring to.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #16)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:50 PM

19. It's a term

for a country that a fundie defends, yet would not let any of its people into his country club, if he had his druthers.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:21 PM

17. This proves Perry isn't "pro-life" as he claims to be.

just pro-fetus, and once that fetus is born, "you're on your own, buddy!"

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:34 PM

22. children die crossing the rio grande river rick perry

 

children drown and die crossing the rio grande river. Like you want me to stop them from drowning.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:36 PM

23. what was the name of perry ranch again?

 

What was name of perrys ranch?

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Response to jonjensen (Reply #23)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 02:12 AM

29. I think it was "Kikehead," but I could be wrong.

 

No, wait. I remember now.

I hope it takes a lot more than abandoning cowboy boots to alleviate this piece of scum's back pains, btw.

(And does that mean I can't call him a shitkicker anymore?)



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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 12:30 AM

24. War is evil. War that lasts for over 60 years is especially evil.

Terrorism is also evil as is greed, as is bombing innocent people.

So both sides need to work very hard to, on the Palestinian side, control the hate and terrorism and on the Israeli side, the fear and the kind of retaliation that fear causes.

Both sides have to work to protect the lives of their own citizens. It would be best if they worked together.

Let's remember. The Palestinians used bombs within Israel. The Israelis built a wall. The Palestinians then shot rockets into Israel. Israel built a missile shield to deal with the rockets. The wall and the missile shield were huge investments, and the Israelis built them rather than invade Palestine for revenge.

And then the Palestinians built tunnels under and into Israel.

To circumvent Israel's peaceful responses to the Palestinian aggression, Israel built a wall and a missile defense system.

And Palestine went underground to circumvent the wall and the missile system.

That would be OK, but Palestine has been unable or unwilling to control its terrorists. The history of Palestinian terror is too long to recite here. Just Google it. You will get pages and pages of Palestinian terrorism.

Young people do not remember the history of post-WWII, the many, many refugees, many of whom came to the US. But some of whom went to Australia, Canada, South America -- everywhere in the world.

Young people do not know much about the Holocaust -- not really. They do not know how many survivors were children, how many of the survivors could never return to their homes and feel safe.

Young people read the newspaper but don't learn history in school. If you don't know history, you cannot understand current news. I see a lot of that on DU.

Those of us who are older, especially me since I have been watching the events in Palestine/Israel since 1952, know just how many acts of terrors were committed by Palestinians, how many wars were begun and lost by Palestinians and are hoping that Palestinians will finally realize that peace is in their best interest.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 03:53 AM

31. Perry thinks that sitting in a boat, on the border with Shammity

while they play with each others gun makes him an expert on war.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:18 AM

32. Sounds like more than a few posters on DU.

 

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:18 PM

34. Benghazi! nt

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:45 PM

35. Okay ...

 

And sometimes, those people killed in war are diplomats ... What was that you were saying about bengazi?

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon Aug 4, 2014, 03:35 PM

37. Well he knows it could never be him, so it's no problem for him

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:27 AM

39. How does he think the Feds should have dealt with the use of human shields at Bundy Ranch? /nt

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Tue Aug 5, 2014, 02:40 AM

42. Well, of course people lose their lives in war; that's exactly why we shouldn't have wars

But what do you expect of Perry, Bush's hand-picked successor, who has always ardently justified the Iraq war?

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