Obama, Merkel Say Russia Will Face Consequences if It Enters Ukraine.

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Source: nyt/reuters

OAK BLUFFS Mass. (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama and German Chancellor Angela Merkel agreed on Saturday that Russia would face additional consequences if it intervened in Ukraine without permission from the Ukrainian government, the White House said.

"The two leaders agreed that any Russian intervention in Ukraine, even under purported 'humanitarian' auspices, without the formal, express consent and authorization of the government of Ukraine is unacceptable, violates international law, and will provoke additional consequences," the White House said in a statement about the call between Merkel and Obama.

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1. The additional consequences for the remaining population

of Luhansk and Donetsk are not only the responsibility of the Ukrainian coup regime, but also of those who support them.

According to the UN itself, at least 285,000 people have become refugees in eastern Ukraine. Kiev insists the number of internal refugees is “only” 117,000; the UN doubts it. Moscow maintains that a staggering 730,000 Ukrainians have fled into Russia; the UN High Commission for Refugees agrees. Some of these refugees, fleeing Semenivka, in Sloviansk, have detailed Kiev’s use of N-17, an even deadlier version of white phosphorus.

When Ambassador Churkin mentioned Donetsk and Luhansk, he was referring to Kiev’s goons gearing up for a massive attack. They are already shelling the Petrovski neighborhood in Donetsk. Almost half of Luhansk residents have fled, mostly to Russia. Those who stayed behind are mostly old-age pensioners and families with small children.

Humanitarian crisis does not even begin to describe it; there’s no water, electricity, communication, fuel and medicine left in Luhansk. Kiev’s heavy artillery partially destroyed four hospitals and three clinics. Luhansk, in a nutshell, is the Ukrainian Gaza.

In a sinister symmetry, just as it gave a free pass to Israel in Gaza, the Obama administration is giving a free pass to the butchers of Luhansk. And there’s even a diversion. Obama was mulling whether to bomb The Caliph’s Islamic State goons in Iraq, or maybe drop some humanitarian aid. He opted for (perhaps) “limited” bombing and arguably less limited food and water airdrops.

So let’s be clear. For the US government, “there might be a humanitarian catastrophe” in Mount Sinjar in Iraq, involving 40,000 people. As for at least 730,000 eastern Ukrainians, they have the solemn right to be shelled, bombed, air-stricken and turned into refugees.

http://atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-01-080814.html

[Duckhunter935]

4. you mean the democratically elected

government of Ukraine? Who are the elected officials of the pro-Russian leading the fighters also shelling in eastern Ukraine.

Guess what, those pro-Russians stop fighting and give up to the elected government and the crisis stops that minute.

[nikto]

6. PUTIN WARNS USA TO STAY OUT OF MEXICO

Just trying to imagine the shoe being on the other foot.



Yes yes, I know----
Russia=Devil
USA=Angel


How naive of me to conjecture otherwise.

[DeSwiss]

2. Like with the sanctions?

If these people would spend less time rattling their damned sabers and spending more time trying to solve the world's ills, they might be worthy of being called ''leaders.''

- Until such time, mutts will have to do........

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[Iliyah]

3. I don't think Putin cares.

He wants to flex his military might while trying to goat the USA in. Don't fall it Mr. President! Putin here in the USA have cheerleaders, ahem, the far right wackos.

[Igel]

5. Not just the far right whackos.

Putin has cheerleaders on the left, as well, if only because he's anti-EU, anti-US, and says the right things. (Some have a word fetish. If you say "I want peace" you can then kill off pretty much everybody you want because, well, you're a good guy and want peace.)

Those on the right have a certain respect for him, and it's possible for some people to have a complex enough evaluation system to both loathe some aspects and respect others. He's not afraid to be offensive in support of his own nation's interests. (The problem is, that often the consequences are outsized for others, and often he blatantly lies and misrepresents both others as well as the consequences for his nation. Sometimes it's funny. He and others don't want Donetsk to become another Groznyi, or Luhansk to be another Stalingrad. Now, I agree. The problem being that Putin was responsible for the horror that was Groznyi, and he justified it and said it was good. And the Russians won in Stalingrad, so I guess he wants to the Russians to lose.)

[nikto]

7. Putin and his Oligarch cohorts are the mirror-image of our Neocons

One can be extremely critical of the US/Wall St/Euro bank$/IMF/World Bank and
still not be at all a supporter of Putin and his Oligarchs.


Only manicheans have trouble with that concept.