Women Stoned to Death in Syria for Adultery

[oberliner]

Source: AP via ABC News

A cleric read the verdict before the truck came and dumped a large pile of stones near the municipal garden. Jihadi fighters then brought in the woman, clad head to toe in black, and put her in a small hole in the ground. When residents gathered, the fighters told them to carry out the sentence: Stoning to death for the alleged adulteress.

None in the crowd stepped forward, said a witness to the event in a northern Syrian city. So the jihadi fighters, mostly foreign extremists, did it themselves, pelting Faddah Ahmad with stones until her body was dragged away.

"Even when she was hit with stones she did not scream or move," said an opposition activist who said he witnessed the stoning near the football stadium and the Bajaa garden in the city of Raqqa, the main Syrian stronghold of the Islamic State group.

The July 18 stoning was the second in a span of 24 hours. A day earlier, 26-year-old Shamseh Abdullah was killed in a similar way in the nearby town of Tabqa by Islamic State fighters. Both were accused of having sex outside marriage.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/women-stoned-death-syria-adultery-24914576

[RandySF]

1. And these are the people Graham and McCain want us to help?

[AngryAmish]

5. And Samantha Powers

And Obama was listening to them a year ago. Thank god he finally listened to the American people instead of these monsters.

[flamingdem]

34. What is up with Samantha Powers

She seems to be wrong 80% of the time

[candelista]

40. But she is ferocious.

That's her job.

[flamingdem]

43. Yes, but lacking diplomatically

and intellectually.

[HPL72]

37. Stoning, American Style

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/11/scott-esk-stoning-gays_n_5486678.html

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-70-Stoned-to-Death-for-Homosexuality-Police-118243719.html

http://www.alternet.org/story/40318/public_stoning%3A_not_just_for_the_taliban_anymore

[The Magistrate]

38. No Real Comparison, Sir

Two of these are simply people running their mouths. The other is a private act treated as a crime by authorities; the lone man involved is in custody charged with murder.

[Comrade Grumpy]

2. To be clear, this is ISIS.

[oberliner]

3. The article does make that clear

Even just the excerpt.

[atreides1]

4. "Many were disturbed by the idea that Saudis and Tunisians were issuing (such) orders,"

Our "friends" the Saudis have been supporting the militants fighting the Assad regime in Syria...and that includes ISIL! Makes me wonder who is providing ISIL with the training to use armor and artillery that they've taken from the Iraqi Army?

And the US will do nothing against the Saudis, will it?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

7. Pssst!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=208056

[Spitfire of ATJ]

6. Imagine if the crowd picked up the stones and used them on those Jihadi fighters. AND their cleric.

[colorado_ufo]

8. A righteous thought, indeed, but sadly they would likely have been shot.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

18. They didn't shoot them when they refused to follow orders.

[Scootaloo]

27. No, but they would have been shot if they made a move against the "fighters"

[Archae]

9. Would it look like this?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

19. We can only wish.

[customerserviceguy]

25. Don't bring a stone to a gun fight

And the Yizadis practice "honor" killings of their women. It's hard to find someone who's a good guy in this situation.

Let 'em fight it out among each other, we don't need to get our servicemembers killed or wounded trying to babysit primitive people.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. I don't buy the "primitive" line. It's tossed around like "savages" to make them sound like beasts.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

32. Of course our arms sales in the area had no impact.

[customerserviceguy]

33. Oil money

will buy whatever toys it wants to buy. Frankly, if there were zero oil under the ground in the Middle East, they'd pretty much be living the way they were 150 years ago.

Yeah, we may have screwed them up, but it would have happened anyway. Somebody would have sold arms to people with more money than brains.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

35. This may shock you but MOST are people just want to work a job and raise a family in peace....

They actually buy houses and cars and do things in their jobs like we do. There are plumbers and electricians and doctors and office workers and cops and firemen,...need I go on?

Oh,...and not ALL of them are devoted to a religion. A lot of it is like here where America is described as "Christian" but most people don't attend church. Hell, most don't even know where their local church is at and CERTAINLY can't tell you the name of the pastor.

The media likes to make like 100% of the people over there are devout just like they like to pretend all of America spends every Sunday dressed up surrounded by stained glass.

[candelista]

39. I think your "hidden" comment was interesting.

In support of your view, I think that one reason why Europe is less warlike than the US is because Europe was devastated by WWI and WWII, while the US was not. Getting devastated by war has a tendency to make people less warlike.

[LanternWaste]

55. Creative, though thoroughly unsupported allegations which flies in the face of academics.

Creative, though thoroughly unsupported allegations which flies in the face of academics.

The Venture of Islam, Volume 3 by Marshall Hodgson; A History of Islamic Societies by Ira Lapidus; and State, Power and Politics by Roger Owen.

However, I can certainly understand your desire to adhere rather to bumper-stickers and cereal-box histories as they do tend to validate one's biases more so than peer-reviewed sources.

[Gary 50]

41. Sound like beasts?

Stoning a woman to death for having sex. Calling them beasts is insulting to beasts.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

42. The person I was replying to was claiming ALL of them over there are primitive,....

....and we should just stay out of it and let them kill each other.

[Warpy]

36. The whole region looks utterly savage to us

The Palestinian Arabs have a very modified and downright civilized form of Shari'a in which anyone who repents is spared the worst official punishment, although "shamed" patriarchal fathers and/or brothers occasionally do "honor" killings, something that is illegal.

I've always found them the most approachable of the bunch, although Saudis do know how to turn on the charm if they've been to school outside the country.

The ones who have flocked to Europe looking for work aren't the educated ones and they've tried to bring their own savagery into regions they think are barbaric for allowing women such relative freedom.

The best thing we can do is declare victory, leave, put the military on a diet, and work out how to get along without fossil fuel we don't produce.

[grahamhgreen]

10. THIS IS THE LAW IN SAUDI ARABIA, AS WELL. I can't belive the disconnect here. As well as:

http://www.trust.org/item/20130927165059-w9g0i

[oberliner]

11. "There are no accounts of stonings in the past decade" in Saudia Arabia

Per the link you provided.

[grahamhgreen]

16. Yeah, so? It's the law. If you want to bomb Isis cuz of stonings, then Saudi arabia should be on

list as well, no?

According to Human Rights Watch, from January to September 2012, at least 69 people were executed in Saudi Arabia. Another 10 beheadings have been reported in just the first six weeks of 2013.

Beheadings are imposed mainly for murder or drug offences, but cases of apostasy (renunciation of one's faith), sorcery and witchcraft can also end up in Chop Chop square. Indeed a man named Muri' al-'Asiri was executed last year in the southern town of Najran, as punishment for being a sorcerer.

Lashing is carried out as the main or additional punishment for a wide range of offences, and can be imposed on men, women and juveniles. In 2011 a 13-year-old school girl convicted of assaulting a teacher was sentenced to 90 lashes, carried out in front of her classmates. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-arabia-chop-square-beheading-453240

Our 20 years of war in Iraq have only made the situation worse.

Can we please try something other than more violence?

[Wolf Frankula]

12. Liar! These are the Syrian Moderates

McCain and Co. want us to help. Bullshit! Let's get behind Bashir Assad and his secular administration and help him put down this Islamist rebellion.

Wolf

[niyad]

13. there are any number of religious fanatics in this country (self-professed xians) who advocate the

death penalty for WOMEN who commit adultery (but NEVER the men), have abortions, or are, in general, non-submissive wives. difference of degree, not kind, for this insane woman-hatred.

[oberliner]

14. Fortunately they are prevented from stoning such women

At least as far as I am aware.

[niyad]

15. the point is, there are people in this country who advocate the same damned thing. so here, they

use guns and fists instead. the war on women in this country is alive and well, and I am sick to death of hearing how much better we have it than other places, as though that somehow makes the abuse and woman-hatred less.

[awoke_in_2003]

23. True, and we must be vigilant...

and start reining in bible thumping politicians.

[Scootaloo]

28. No, they just use their fists, feet, guns, knives, household objects...

Bombs, arson, threats and intimidation, isolation and imprisonment, rape...

But since it's not Muslims, we just call it "domestic violence" or "violence against women" - only Muslims ever gt the appellation "honor killing" - even though the mentality is identical in all of this; "Woman dares, woman dies."

[oberliner]

47. Sadly that happens in countries all over the world regardless of religion

Or lack thereof.

Stoning women to death, thankfully, is not quite as widespread.

[The Wizard]

17. Islam is 600 years younger

than Christianity. What were Christians doing 600 years ago? That said, the only things radical Islam likes about modernity are the weapons.

[tabasco]

20. What were Christians doing IN THE YEAR 1414?

Oh, for fuck's sake.

[customerserviceguy]

26. Yes, and the Chinese

wisely stayed out of the situation. We should follow their example.

[Bragi]

58. Well let's see

The Musdlim Sultan ruled over most of the Mediterranean, the Balkans, north Africa. What else?

Oh yeah, there were endless religious wars.

Am I missing anything big? It was simple, good times.

[leftynyc]

21. What's your point?

That we have to wait 400 years before some will understand this is barbaric behavior?

[christx30]

24. So the 27th century

Is going to be awesome and peaceful for the Middle East.

[Scootaloo]

29. There's 2 billion Muslims on the planet

One billion, nine hundred and ninety-nine million, nine hundred and ninety thousand of them have absolutely fuck-all to do with ISIS.

[LanternWaste]

54. Getting soundly defeated by (wait for it) Muslims...

"What were Christians doing 600 years ago?"

Getting soundly defeated by (wait for it) Muslims...

[WhoWoodaKnew]

22. Animals

[blackspade]

44. sick fucks.

I despise religious fundamentalists.
Unfortunately there seems to be more and more in every society.

In fact I would posit that the increasing religious bent to many of the world's societies is a symptom of the decline in civilization.
Where religion is on an ascendent, morality declines and a society is rotted from within.

[quadrature]

45. is Assad out of Obama's doghouse?

btw,
setting Syria on fire was a mistake

[ozone_man]

56. I sure hope so.

ISIL got established under his watch and policies, and his middle eastern ally's policies. He better learn to play chess quickly.

[snooper2]

46. stupid fucking asshole fundies strike again

what cracks me up are folks who a few years ago said woman wearing burqas were "liberated" in these societies, -- LOL fools, like that 19 million and counting Druggar lady is

[Brigid]

48. And they didn't stone the man too?

It's impossible to commit adultery by yourself.

[oberliner]

49. The woman was accused of having sex outside of marriage

The man she had sex with presumably was not married himself and is therefore not guilty of adultery.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

51. Would it make a difference?

I'm not a student of sharia law and I don't know. First, if the man contributed to the woman's adultery and the estrangement of affections of the woman from her own family, why wouldn't the man be seen as complicit? If the man was also married, would he also be stoned? I don't think I've ever heard of a man being stoned, but then I'm not a follower of this type of law.

[oberliner]

52. I think so

I don't think unmarried men can be found guilty of adultery even if they sleep with another man's wife.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

50. Barbaric method of execution for a barbaric reasoning

I don't think I've ever heard of a man being stoned to death for adultery. I assume the men who stand by and do nothing who are themselves adulterers and who even might be contributing to the adulterous acts of these women never even come close to getting punished under their own religious laws. More barbarism.

[leftyladyfrommo]

53. Remember the Taliban would just take women out and

shoot them in front of a big crowd.

It's a great life for women in the middle east.

[Nye Bevan]

57. Oooh, those brave "Jihadi fighters",

fearlessly hurling rocks at an unarmed woman. Do they really think that Muhammed would have approved of this?