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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:14 AM Aug 2014

2 Missing Amish Girls From New York Found After Apparent Abduction

Source: Associated Press

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — Two missing Amish sisters turned up safe Thursday evening, about 24 hours after they were apparently abducted from their family's roadside farm stand in northern New York, authorities said.

St. Lawrence County District Attorney Mary Rain said the girls were cold and wet but unharmed when they sought help at a home in Richville, about 13 miles from where they disappeared in the rural town of Oswegatchie.

She said 12-year-old Fannie Miller and 7-year-old Delila Miller were dropped off and knocked on the door, asking for help getting home. A neighbor who visited the Miller family after hearing word of the girls' return said she spoke with one of their brothers, who said they were well and being checked out.

There were no other details immediately available about what happened to the girls.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/police-search-2-amish-girls_n_5677959.html



The authorities didn't even have pictures of these girls as pictures are forbidden within the Amish community.

Godspeed to these young girls, indeed.

This OP could very well be locked by the OK Coral as regional even though it was on the national news this evening.

I'll gladly repost in another forum if necessary.


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2 Missing Amish Girls From New York Found After Apparent Abduction (Original Post) Purveyor Aug 2014 OP
The OK Coral... Suich Aug 2014 #1
Oh I'm sure the 'alert button' is being mashed as I type. My suggestion, sit Purveyor Aug 2014 #2
There used to be a mod a long time ago... Suich Aug 2014 #3
I saw the report this evening on the ABC evening news. The police were frustrated Purveyor Aug 2014 #4
We'll add this ending to the small miracle file. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #5
Idiot parents packman Aug 2014 #6
Same thought about their ages crossed my mind. IdaBriggs Aug 2014 #7
Fannie & Delila... TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #8
Fanny and Delilah are very old names, going back happyslug Aug 2014 #9
Thank you... TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #10
Many young people can not understand that people names changes, and are different for some people. happyslug Aug 2014 #11
aw good, good Skittles Aug 2014 #12
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
2. Oh I'm sure the 'alert button' is being mashed as I type. My suggestion, sit
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:26 AM
Aug 2014

on it and spin...at least get a bit more pleasure out of it.

Suich

(10,642 posts)
3. There used to be a mod a long time ago...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:40 AM
Aug 2014

...could have been on DU2. They were religious about putting articles like this in the State Forum. There could have been a 60 car pileup in Iowa that caused the tanker truck to explode and a whole bunch of people died, and it got moved to the Iowa forum. Drove me nuts.

Glad the girls are ok...didn't even know they were missing.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
4. I saw the report this evening on the ABC evening news. The police were frustrated
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:49 AM
Aug 2014

as there were no pictures of these girls to put up on the 'amber alert' system.

A side note: We hired some Amish folk to put a metal roof on one of our barns 2 years a go and the 'no picture' rules was sternly enforced.

Of course one of my neighbors came with vid camera in hand to film the event and all it took was one meaningful 'glare' from the ground boss and the camera was promptly put away.

Knowing this neighbor quite well, I'm sure she was just 'testing' the rumor...

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
6. Idiot parents
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

two young girls, 12 and 7, alone by the road. Won't even comment on the no-picture religious bit; however, it is amazing (sarcasm here) that they reached out to the "English" for help.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
7. Same thought about their ages crossed my mind.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:50 AM
Aug 2014

Glad for the happy ending, but too young to be alone with strange adults.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
8. Fannie & Delila...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:25 PM
Aug 2014

...What great names! Protagonists in a novel or the title of a film.

So happy that they're home safe.

TYY

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
9. Fanny and Delilah are very old names, going back
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:31 PM
Aug 2014

Delilah is from the bible and the story of Samson, translated into English it means "She who
weakened"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delilah



Fanny is a derivative of the word "Francis" and its feminine version "Frances"and both in turn were derived from the word "Frank" as in the Franks that ruled Western Europe under Charlemagne. In turn Frank is believed to have meant in Ancient language of the Franks, to be "Free" or "Freemen". All these versions of Francis became popular during and after the life St Francis of Assisi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_(given_name)

Since I posted a picture of Delilah, let me do one from St Francis:




TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
10. Thank you...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:54 PM
Aug 2014

...for the interesting research and pics.

My grandmother, born in 1905, lived her entire adult life next door to her best friend, Frances. My grandma always called her 'Frank' and I always knew her as 'Frank.'

Recently, I mentioned something about Frank to her grandson that now lives in Frank's house. He didn't know who I was talking about.

TYY

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
11. Many young people can not understand that people names changes, and are different for some people.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 03:47 PM
Aug 2014

I give my sister as a good example, her given name was Karolina, as a child she was known as one of the "babies" for she was the baby of the family. She started to object to that name when she was in grade school and we had to shift to calling her "Karrie". When a another sister had a child and called the Child "Carrie" we had a problem, who did we mean when we used the name "Carrie". "Karrie" reverted to her given name Karolina.

Notice I avoided the issue of "Mom" "Dad", "Papa" etc, which are names many people end up adopting for themselves when they have children. My father was known to various people as "Henry" "Hank". HAM" (The first letters of his first, middle and last names), depending on who he was talking to. Woman traditionally took their husband's last names upon marriage (a tradition driven by the fact that traditionally most women moved into the home of their husband's family NOT into a separate home, thus she become a person who lived in that family's house as opposed to the family she grew up in).

Thus even among males it is common to have more then one name, one name is often your profession. I have been called "Attorney" many a time, not as an attorney, but as my first name (and in some cases my only name).

If you look into other cultures, the you find people change names often. Among some Native American Tribes it was considered bad luck if your enemies found out your real name for they could then curse you, to prevent that members of those tribes used other names even within the tribe. You may be know by one nickname (lack of a better terms for these names) as an infant, as a pre teen by a another name, as a teen a third name, as an young adult a fourth name, as a parent a fifth name, and in your old age a sixth name. Each name reflected something in your life, something you did (Running bear, you ran like a bear), something that happened to you (Running Bear, for you ran as you where chased by a bear), Sitting bull, as an adult you decided it was better to sit then to stand but you acted like an old bull, old bear, old bull, old deer, as an senior in the tribe. Some of these names were related to an older nickname, some were not. Native Americans were also known to use different names when dealing with Whites then with people of their own tribe. A person may be known as "Stinking pond" for in the past he was caught in a stinking pond, but to outsiders he may be known as "Cougar who kills" for he was known to other tribes as a fierce warrior who fought like a cougar.

To a degree all people do what the Native Americans did, they name changed as circumstances changed. Your Grandmother may have known her neighbor as "Frank" but her family may have known her as "Mom" and later "Gramps". They may have known her given name was Francis, but never called her Frank, for when such a name was called for "Gramps" or "Mom" was better in their usage. I heard my father called many variation of the Name Henry, various people knew him by different versions of the name. At time this was disconcerting for even as Adults we called him simply "Dad". Thus the grandson NOT knowing that his Grandmother was sometimes called "Frank" does not surprise me, sometimes kids and grand-kids are the last to actually know the name they parents were known by other then "Dad" and "Mom" and later "Gramps". "Papa" and other variations of nicknames for Grandmother and Grandfather.

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