James Foley, Missing American Photojournalist, Reportedly Beheaded By ISIS In Syria

[Bosonic]

Last edited Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Huffington Post

James Foley, an American journalist who went missing in Syria more than a year ago, has reportedly been killed by the Islamic State, a militant group formerly known as ISIS.

A YouTube video and photos purportedly of Foley emerged on Tuesday. The video -- entitled "A Message to #America (from the #IslamicState)" -- identified a man on his knees as "James Wright Foley," and showed his beheading.

"This is James Wright Foley, an American citizen of your country," an Islamic State militant says in the video, which has since been removed by YouTube. "As a government, you have been at the forefront of the aggression towards the Islamic State. You have plotted against us and have gone far out of your way to find reasons to interfere in our affairs. Today, your military air force is attacking us daily in Iraq, your strikes have caused casualties among Muslims."

The video also shows another man on his knees who is identified as American journalist Steven Sotloff. The Islamic State member says that Sotloff's future "depends" on President Obama's "next decision." Sotloff, a freelance journalist, went missing in Syria in August 2013.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/james-foley-executed-isis_n_5692695.html?&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000021

[burnsei sensei]

1. Well, I guess the Missouri authorities

aren't the only ones that have a problem with the practice of journalism.

[CityDem]

74. Eliminate Them

Beheading people, selling women as slaves, widespread violence - extreme behavior requires a severe response. Use whatever means necessary to eliminate these brutal terrorists.

[hlthe2b]

2. Oh, gawd... how horrendous

A brave soul. May he RIP

[Blue_Tires]

3. Holy shit...Was that confirmed to be authentic?

Because I'm not watching it...

[LiberalArkie]

5. Yep, seems real

On liveleak.com. They do it with a small knife to cause the most pain.

[Blue_Tires]

12. Evidently it has yet to be officially confirmed and ID'd...

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-authenticating-video-americans-killing

[LiberalArkie]

15. At your own risk... the video from ISIS

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc1_1408481278

[Iamthetruth]

4. These scum

need to be exterminated.

[wildbilln864]

64. damned right! n/t

[Uncle Joe]

7. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Bosonic.

[Psephos]

8. Headhackers use a small knife to create max pain...

...and prolong the "experience."

Think about it.

If there's any more evil, ghastly crime that can be committed, I don't know of it.

[seveneyes]

9. Fatwah coming against these killers any day now....

[DisgustipatedinCA]

10. OK, ISIS. Message recevied.

I'm a peace-loving, hippie-friendly liberal. And guess what? I personally want to go put a gun in that motherfucker's mouth and make him beg for his life and piss himself before sending him to hell. And I want to obliterate/eradicate/utterly destroy everything about this organization. Yes, I'll get to some calmer place in due time, and I'm sure I'll see the folly of my heat-of-the-moment pronouncement. But right this minute, no matter how wrong-headed our foreign policy can be, no matter how many innocents we've killed in our military adventures, I want to take the most powerful fighting force in the history of history and I want to just blow the fuck out of these subhuman thugs. When a group is so bad as to get the peace-loving types ready to kill, well, they fucked up.

End their lives, Mr. President.

[xocet]

11. ISIS/ISIL/IS need to be eliminated...

They are also threatening to do the same to another US journalist depending on President Obama's actions. Steven Joel Sotloff is the other journalist.

Reference:

https://twitter.com/mpoppel/status/501845455635247104

[pnwmom]

18. They're amazingly deluded in thinking this little video and threat will help their cause. n/t

[philosslayer]

21. I will address your post directly

Remember a few years ago when some American Marines were taped urinating on killed Taliban fighters? They did it in the heat of the moment. What they did was wrong, and we rightly excoriated them for it. And your attitude is wrong. You should delete this post.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

24. Delete your own fucking post if you want one deleted.

Good to know that you have standing to speak on behalf of ISIS directly to me. I was just now daydreaming about killing every last one of those motherfuckers.

[philosslayer]

28. I will not. I stand by it.

And "peace loving" people generally don't fantasize about "killing every last one of those motherfuckers". We all have thoughts we aren't proud of, but putting them on the Internet may not always be a good idea.

They need to be brought to justice. Lets work towards that instead.

[randys1]

29. WE become what we despise if we sink to their level, I understand his or her reaction but it is

exactly what the enemy wants us to do, become them.

We cant do that, we have to remember this goes back to the 60's and Nixon, then what W did was horrific.

Obama, again, is the Black man cleaning up after the crooked white men and that includes LBJ to some extent.

[Shivering Jemmy]

76. It really isn't what they want us to do.

That is just a hackneyed cliche. ISIS is very open about what it wants. What we become is not part of their agenda.

[Iamthetruth]

90. Please

It's time to realize that this has nothing to do 60 years of anything. They have been killing like this for thousands of years. Do you think they only kill Americans?

[Rhinodawg]

93. + 1000

[DisgustipatedinCA]

30. There is no "we" with me and you, so "let's" not.

I do appreciate all the great advice on how I should post and what I should think, but I somehow or another managed to get through 14 years at DU without your guidance, and I believe I'll just keep going in that vein.

People are brought to justice in different ways. During open warfare, which ISIS is most assuredly engaging in, justice is sometimes brought in the form of a Tomahawk cruise missile, which would be entirely appropriate in this situation, given good intelligence and good aim.

[philosslayer]

31. Have we declared war on ISIS?

No. We have not. They are not an organized military sponsored by a nation. They are individuals committing crimes. And they need to be arrested and brought to justice appropriately. You know what dropping missiles will do? It will only create more criminals just like them. Didn't you learn any lessons during the Bush years? This is what we have sown. The same tactics will only get us more of the same.

Congratulations on your 14 years.

[delta17]

32. How do you propose we arrest them?

Any ideas?

[PersonNumber503602]

35. Do you believe that no one should engage ISIS, or just that the US shouldn't engage ISIS?

If our allies (or countries that are not traditionally our allies) request help from the US, do you believe they would all be better off without the support? If Iraqis, Kurds or Syrians engage ISIS, do you believe they are only creating more criminals? ISIS declared itself a state and is operating more as a state than a small vague terrorist group. They are an army with heavy weapons and even tanks. At what point do they graduate to being a state in your opinion?

[nilesobek]

58. They look pretty organized to me.

I saw them marching in formation in a dust storm in perfect unison, bristling with modern weapons in a video. Modern warfare transcends nation states.

On the other hand, I wouldn't mind advice if I said things over the top. I think you meant well.

[Iamthetruth]

91. Wrong

They have declared themselves a nation and have an army. These are cowards who slaughter innocent men, women and children. They want a war, lets show them how 21st century warfare works. They will fold like a cheap suit and will run like the cowards they are.

[NealK]

107. You got through 14 years at DU?

So either you were a member before the site was lauched (Jan 20, 2001) or I drove a flying DeLorean and we're in 2015.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

108. Correction accepted.

13 years, not 14. Now comment on the subject at hand, or hit the lounge.

[Iamthetruth]

89. I wish I could live in your fantasy world

But how do you bring scum sucking pigs like this to justice outside of killing them? Are you going to arrest them? How? Do you think they will just put their weapons down without a fight? If you arrest them, where do you keep them? I'm sure you were one of the anti gitmo people so you have to it them in a jail where they will multiply.

No there is but one solution to a cockroach infestation, you kill each and every one of them. You slaughter these scum without a thought and you do it in a fashion to send a message not to kill another American. I will celebrate each and every death of an Isis member.

Lets make it a drinking game.

[leftynyc]

46. Are you really equating

urinating on corpses with what these animals (sorry, I don't consider them human) did to this poor man on video? What they would do to every single person posting on this site given the opportunity? And that's just the Americans. They've killed thousands upon thousands of their own brothers and sisters, beheading them, crucifying them. They must be eliminated.

[philosslayer]

48. No trial?

No due process? Just "eliminated". And how do you propose we "eliminate" them?

[Psephos]

57. Tell us about the trial that Foley received. n/t

[Shemp Howard]

59. A trial? Really?

Let's say it's December of 1944. You are General Eisenhower. In front of you is a determined Nazi army. Remember, you cannot get to the Nazi leadership until you deal with that Nazi army.

Tell me, what would be the best way to organize a trial for all those Nazi soldiers now in the field? Would you attempt to capture them individually, and then put each one on trial? Or would you attempt to try them in groups?

Or would you drop all the legal nonsense, and just utterly destroy the Nazi army?

[philosslayer]

60. Google "Nuremberg trials". Thats how we dealt with criminals.

So... do tell Mr. Howard... how would you propose that we "utterly destroy" Isis?

[Shemp Howard]

62. You're right about Nuremberg, but...

The Nuremberg trials were a (mostly) enlightened event. Those trials dealt with the Nazi leadership.

But I'm not talking about dealing with the ISIS leadership. That can (and should) come later. I'm talking about their troops in the field. You simply cannot try any of ISIS until your utterly destroy their army. You cannot just send a legal team into their territory and say "Excuse me sir, you are under arrest. Please come along."

As to how to destroy ISIS, it MUST be major UN, not American, military operation. America no longer has clean hands in this region.

The heartbreak is that the UN will probably do nothing.

[tabasco]

65. Right. After we destroyed them militarily.

What was you point?

[christx30]

84. The Nuremberg trials

happened after the Allies won the war. But go ahead to Mosul with a summons for Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and the rest of the ISIS leadership to appear in the Hague. I'll wait here. Before you leave, you should get someone to water your plants and adopt your pets. You know... Just in case they don't take kindly to your being there.

[delta17]

66. Fuck their due process.

And it would be pretty easy to eliminate them with air strikes. If you have a better suggestion, I'm all ears.

[philosslayer]

69. "pretty easy"?

to eliminate the EXACT guys who cut his head off with air strikes? Please tell me you aren't serious.

[delta17]

78. To take out some of their leadership.

Or training camps, or supplies. Strategic air strikes to weaken them, just like we did last week. I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand.

[leftynyc]

77. No trial

And use whatever weapons do it fast and completely. Is that clear enough for you? Don't waste your time trying to make me feel bad about feeling like this. I have no desire to understand the kind of mind that cuts off someone's head and puts it on video. They're depraved and should be treated like the rabid dogs they behave like.

[PersonNumber503602]

79. Do you believe that ISIS should be left alone?

Do you believe that ISIS should be supported? What exactly are your feelings about ISIS and how things should be handled?

[philosslayer]

81. I think this is a regional issue

And that the regional powers-that-be should be addressing the ISIS threat. This is not our issue, and we should stay out of it. In my humble opinion.

[christx30]

83. The Iraqi government is about as effective

as a bag of hammers. And ISIS is killing people by the thousands. We do nothing and they are going to get stronger and more people are going to die. I was against attacking Saddam, but ISIS is not Saddam. These are Daleks. They want to destroy anything that is not them.

[christx30]

82. How do you suppose we

arrest and bring justice to the members of a quasi-nation state that has tanks and heavy weapons?
The beheading of women and children indicates they don't want to negotiate. Would you send a coupe of city cops? Maybe we can email a subpoena. Would that work?
Is personally like to see the Iraqi and Syrian militaries to go after these guys. I don't care about due process for mass murderers. The world owes them nothing.

[jerkstore90210]

85. The cops in Ferguson

would probably be pretty well equipped to deal with them.

[christx30]

88. Yup. The cops in Ferguson

are way over equipped to deal with people on the street in the US. But they are perfectly equipped to deal with a regional power like ISIS.

[Rhinodawg]

23. Subhuman thugs?

wow

[DisgustipatedinCA]

26. Yes, subhuman thugs, Mr. Dawg. Further questions?

[delta17]

33. How are they not subhuman thugs?

They brutally murdered a journalist and posted the video online. If that doesn't count as thuggery, I don't know what does.

[PersonNumber503602]

37. If a terrorist Christian group performed similar actions, I'm sure people would call them subhuman

thugs too. My question is if you would hold objections to the term in that situation. If so, then that's fair enough. If not, then I ask you what the difference would be.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

40. Anyone of any persuasion who is willing to cut off another human being's head is a subhuman thug.

.

[Nye Bevan]

72. I assume that your point is that "subhuman thugs" is too kind a phrase

for these disgusting murderous jihadists.

[FarPoint]

27. Yes...you sized up my sentiments exactly.

[Rhinodawg]

112. + 1000

[philosslayer]

34. And by the way Mr. Peace Lover...

There's another life in the balance should President Obama decide to bomb. THIS is why your desire for vengeance is so misplaced.

http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-says-another-u-journalists-fate-depends-214953685.html

[DisgustipatedinCA]

39. Yes, I've read that.

I believe someone upthread asked you already, but here goes again: what do you suggest we do to apprehend these misunderstood people? I really want to know right here in front of everyone--what should the President do to "bring these people to justice" and to save the life of the second journalist?

If you wish to be taken as a serious person, you're going to need to give this a serious response.

[philosslayer]

42. I didn't suggest it would be easy

But more bombs is not the answer. And after reading your original post, you're saying I'M the one who won't be taken as a serious person? Upon reading it again, I can practically see the spittle coming out from between your lips. "End their lives, Mr. President"?? President Obama is the Commander in Chief; not an executioner. Is that post indicative of a serious person? I think not.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

44. Real answer, please. I have no time or inclination for your little game.

Answer the question or move along.

[philosslayer]

49. I will pose the same question to you.

How do you propose that President Obama "End their lives"? C'mon... do tell exactly how the President should pick the men that committed this act and then "end their lives"? In fact, if he could actually pinpoint them... .couldn't he have them detained and arrested? Wouldn't one be as easy as the other?

I don't play games when it comes to matters of life and death. You clearly do.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

50. You refused to answer my question 3 times. You're trolling.

I already answered. You're on record as not having an answer--just platitudes. I llooked at your posting history. I know everything I'll ever need to know about you.

Someone please put their sock back in the drawer.

[philosslayer]

51. Platitudes?

"killing all of the motherfuckers"?? Is that your official remedy for the situation? So we'll just pick them out (no innocent civilians of course), and "eliminate them". Good plan.

I'd look up YOUR posting history, but..... well gosh. I decided doing something like that was pretty creepy years ago. Sorry you don't think my papers are in order.

[philosslayer]

109. So you wanted an answer....

What to do? Well the British are formulating plans. They are attempting to identify the person who killed Mr. Foley, and a former MI6 official says he will be "grabbed by special forces." Thats a better solution than just indiscriminately blowing up everything in sight; don't you think?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2730336/Find-British-butcher-mask-Jihadi-filmed-beheading-American-journalist-identified-John-Londoner-gang-UK-extremists-known-The-Beatles.html

[DisgustipatedinCA]

110. Thank you for the answer.

I wouldn't mind this guy being grabbed by special forces, ours, the British, either way. But I also wouldn't mind us bombing the everlivingfuck out of these people. And we are.

[Rhinodawg]

111. bombing the everlivingfuck out of these people ?

wow...you are good with words.

[christx30]

94. Because a 500 pound bomb

is easier to deliver than a guy with a court summons. And it can actually accomplish something. The guy with the court summons will just die 45 seconds upon arrival.

[philosslayer]

97. So how do we find out where the guy is to bomb?

And how do we ensure that children aren't included in the collateral damage? Or do we just kill them all and let God sort them out?

[christx30]

99. How would you handle it?

You are a world leader (not necessarily the US president), or you can control them. You find out about ISIS going on a tear through Iraq and Syria. You follow the tens of thousands of killings of Christians, Yedizi, and Muslims that don't pas the Isis purity test. What do you do? You can do something to stop the killings. Or you can let it happen. How would you stop it? Bombings? Negotiation? Sanctions? Sending an infantry division or two in? Get Iraq to set aside some land for Isis? Stop other peoples from going into those areas? How do you stop Isis from taking more land? Do you stand in their way in any way? I'm asking an honest, totally non-judgemental question. I just want to know what you think the solution is, since I'm totally wrong here.

[philosslayer]

100. Work with the United Nations to craft a solution

This is why the United Nations exists in the first place, to deal with situations such as this.

[christx30]

103. And what has the UN's response been so far?

They have condemned ISIS. They have declared Iraq a 'Level 3 emergency' and have urged 'something' be done. Arms have been shipped to the Kurds, but that has been done under individual countries. I'm not seeing much from the UN. So if they continue to do nothing at all, what can be done? Can we get the ICC to show up and arrest ISIS war criminals?

[Adsos Letter]

54. I share your initial response.

I watched the video. My immediate reaction was that we should shoot every one of these people in the head.

Every.One.

My attitude may change when I've cooled down.

Not likely, however.

[LeftyMom]

68. That's the reaction that they want. They want to kill Americans, so they need to provoke

in order to get some Americans delivered to their doorstep.

This is why policy needs to be driven by intellect and not emotion.

[skamaria]

71. Well put Sir!

N/T

[onecent]

98. I, personally, feel the EXACT SAME WAY you do.

I have never wanted war...but these guys need to be bombed with the best we got.

[philosslayer]

101. The "best we got" is nuclear weapons.

n/t

[Archae]

13. I've noticed this about fundy Muslim groups like ISIS.

They are getting more desperate and more brutal, since their beliefs and goals look more and more ridiculous.

Unfortunately, here in the US, it's fundy Christians that are getting like this.

[former9thward]

19. False equivalence.

Who is being beheaded in the U.S.by fundy Christians? Who is being buried alive by them? Links please...

[Archae]

36. The key words here are "not yet."

We have seen how in the past Christians were capable of the most barbaric acts, torture, genocide, and this wasn't ancient history either.
Just look at Nazi Germany. "Gott Mit Uns"

We've seen how the "pro-life" groups are quite willing to use death and destruction, "to save babies."

[former9thward]

41. Nazis were not Christians.

But nice try. Everything is "not yet". Because of course you can never be wrong with that statement.

[Archae]

43. They weren't?

That's like saying ISIS is not Muslim.

"Most members of the Nazi Party, however, were Christians. Composed mostly by members of the Lutheran Evangelical tradition, members of the apostate Nazi inspired Positive Christianity sect and some of the Catholic faith tradition respectively."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany

[former9thward]

47. ISIS is a Islamic movement.

Their goal is establish an Islamic caliphate in the Middle East and through out the world if they could. Please cite one historian that says Nazis were a Christian movement. Did the U.S. go to war in WW I, II, Korea, etc. to spread Christianity? Please cite an historian who thinks that.

[Shemp Howard]

61. Please don't do that.

Think twice before basing any argument on "not yet" grounds.

For example:

Person A: The Italians are terrible people. They invade other countries.
Person B: What are you talking about?
Person A: Back in the 1930's Italy invaded Ethiopia and Albania.
Person B: But they haven't invaded anyone in the 21st century.
Person A: Not yet.

[hrmjustin]

104. Our fundies are basically held at bay by our laws and ourliberal democracy.

If they had the chance our fundiies here woukd turn this into a fascist theocratic state.

[Archae]

106. Absolutely.

Just look at the "good Christian love" shown by a Faux "news" program host.

"The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim..."

ANDREA TANTAROS: If you study the history of Islam. Our ship captains were getting murdered. The French had to tip us off. I mean these were the days of Thomas Jefferson. They've been doing the same thing. This isn't a surprise. You can't solve it with a dialogue. You can't solve it with a summit. You solve it with a bullet to the head. Its the only thing these people understand. And all we've heard from this president is a case to heap praise on this religion, as if to appease them.

http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/08/20/fox-host-suggests-all-muslims-are-like-isis-say/200485

[840high]

14. Bastards. k/r

[delta17]

16. These fuckers need a few hellfire missiles.

I'm not an expert on ISIS, or whatever stupid acronym they are going by now, but it seems like we are doing little to nothing to stop them. Shit like this needs a strong response.

[pnwmom]

17. They're not just evil, they're idiots, thinking that this video threat will help their cause. n/t

[former9thward]

20. It does help their cause in the Middle East.

It shows they are not afraid of "The Great Satan." They don't care what anybody thinks elsewhere.

[pnwmom]

22. If they don't care, why include a threat to the US? They're just asking to be attacked

with almost the whole population of the US backing the attack.

[Shemp Howard]

63. Correct!

Many people respect raw power. This is particularly true in the Middle East, where many tribes have been pushed around by greater forces for centuries.

This beheading was a demonstration of power. Those in the West will be repulsed by it, but many in the Middle East will be impressed by it.

[snagglepuss]

86. Of course it helps there cause. Look at the number of Muslims going over

there. The fucker who sawed of this head was British.

[pnwmom]

87. It won't help in the long run. It will unify the west against them. n/t

[freshwest]

113. Different things inspire different people, true. For example:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/world/middleeast/us-says-dozens-of-americans-have-sought-to-join-rebels-in-syria.html?_r=0

There was a much longer story with pictures of a who drifting about in his life in the USA, who just wanted to find some relevance in his life, I guess and went to Syria. He had no ideology, just a chance to use guns and 'do something' and got into a gang like ISIS. But I don't remember how the story ended. I think he was vet, and wanted to be a mercenary. Whether he'd do something here is another matter. Since he wasn't in the service of another nation, he might not have fit in the category of supplying aid to 'an enemy.' But this is why some things that are much hated are being done abroad to those who just nilly willy join up with a cause. Like Johnny Jihad, I think there are some serious psychological issues going on with all of this. Or at least one might want to excuse it that way, and then again... this is just a barbaric way of thinking and living. And not compatible with any kind of peace we would recognize. Just a few thoughts snaggle... Haven't seen many posts from you lately, hope all is well with you.

[flamingdem]

25. I wonder if this is an indication that Isis

knows their days are numbered.

Why now, why not try to use him for a trade. The leadership must be losing it since they had their first big military defeat with the loss of the Mosul Dam.

Their Allah didn't help them out on that one, perhaps it's time to realize they aren't all that.

[DCBob]

38. Yes, this sounds like last gasp evil vile desperate act.

Clear indication they are on the ropes. Keep the pressure on.

[leftynyc]

45. If there was ever a reason

to unleash the power of our military to make this world a better place, this is it.

[blackspade]

52. Nothing like a bunch of extremist dickbags to...

Make war criminals like Assad and Netanyahu look good.

This is crazy extreme, but if I had a terminal disease I would be willing to have explosives strapped to me and be dropped near these assholes and let myself be captured. Then boom.
See how they like it, the fucks.

[HeiressofBickworth]

53. Here's where I call bullshit.

In their statement, they say: "Today, your military air force is attacking us daily in Iraq, your strikes have caused casualties among Muslims." (emphasis provided). They are outraged that Muslims are being killed but they themselves have no qualms at all about killing each and every person who is NOT Muslim. They have shown their lethal intent against the Yazidis, Christians, and any other religious group who don't share their extreme version of Islam. And still ISIS claims to be of the religion of peace. The hypocrisy makes me sick.

I have no doubt that there are many Muslims who are NOT violent and do not wish to see anyone suffer. I live in a small near Seattle town that has a Mosque. I have no concerns about them whatsoever.

[Throd]

56. ISIS is more than happy to slaughter Muslims too.

[flamingdem]

55. A message from Jim's mom, Diane Foley

From the facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/FindJamesFoley


A message from Jim's mom, Diane Foley:

We have never been prouder of our son Jim. He gave his life trying to expose the world to the suffering of the Syrian people.

We implore the kidnappers to spare the lives of the remaining hostages. Like Jim, they are innocents. They have no control over American government policy in Iraq, Syria or anywhere in the world.

We thank Jim for all the joy he gave us. He was an extraordinary son, brother, journalist and person. Please respect our privacy in the days ahead as we mourn and cherish Jim.

[rug]

67. Steve Sotloff

http://imgur.com/gallery/BHq6zXr

[Shemp Howard]

70. Thanks for putting a face to the name. nt

.

[PersonNumber503602]

80. It's not looking too good for him. :(

[quadrature]

73. avoid travel to Syria and Egypt

for a taste of the Mediterranean,
try Italy, Greece ot Israel.
fewer beheadings.

[ellisonz]

75. R.I.P. James Wright Foley

[Rhinodawg]

92. + 1000

[Ash_F]

96. The US government sure knows how to pick a horse, don't they?

[Marrah_G]

102. Just in case anyone is thinking of watching the actual video...

I would advise against it. No matter how strong your stomach is, you will never get the image out of your mind. It's nothing like the movies.

[hrmjustin]

105. May he rest in peace and his muders face justce!