Cash raised for Mo. cop surpasses Brown donations

[Octafish]

Source: USA Today

Online fundraisers for Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson surpassed the amount of money raised for Michael Brown's family as Wilson supporters gathered in an afternoon rally.

Supporters of Wilson, the police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., gathered Saturday at Barney's Sports Pub in south St. Louis.

"Many of us have received death threats toward ourselves and our families," the speaker said, wearing sunglasses, paint beneath her eyes and a baseball cap. "We will not hide. We will no longer live in fear … If you support Darren Wilson, make your voices heard."

She refused to give the media her name, saying "You want my name? I am Darren Wilson. We are Darren Wilson."

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/23/support-darren-wilson-rally/14495459/

[liberalmike27]

1. Nothing New

Republicans have always got the big money. And most of the small money is now gone, so, it's hard to contribute away groceries.

[Louisiana1976]

4. That's right. Supporters of Wilson would have more money than those seeking justice for Brown.

[Octafish]

5. Really does show who has money.

They follow in the tracks of Joseph Adams Milteer.



A rabid right-wing racist who was tape-recorded by FBI detailing the assassination of JFK "with a high-powered rifle from a high-rise office building," then a couple of weeks later appears in photographs in Dealey Plaza should make the front page and lead every broadcast, but it doesn't, for some reason.



Also shows how little money the other pole of political power has, the People.

[Dont call me Shirley]

17. What's with the hairdo? Powdered wig style?

[Octafish]

22. Trademark Hairstyle

The wave really stood out in the crowd at Dealey Plaza.



Prof. Donald E. Wilkes of the University of Georgia College of Law explains how he connects to hate today:

http://www.law.uga.edu/dwilkes_more/jfk_4did.html

That background was written before former FBI agent Donald Adams came forward with his part of the history:

https://archive.org/details/JfkAssassinationFormerFbiAgentDonAdamsOnJosephMilteer

[Archae]

42. Do you have to throw your horseshit into just about every thread you post in?

Oswald shot Kennedy.

Because Oswald hated Kennedy, for his anti-Cuba actions.

What next? Going to say Guiteau shot Garfield due to a right-wing conspiracy?
That Booth shot Lincoln due to a European conspiracy?
Reagan's shooter was part of the Illuminati?

[Octafish]

46. No. What you wrote is what's horseshit.

I posted fact and sourced them. If you have different evidence to introduce, do so. Don't invent crap I never said.

Here's what the FBI tape recorded Milteer saying:

Transcript of Milteer-Somersett Tape

Note: This is a transcript of a tape recorded on 9 Nov 1963 by Miami Police informant William Somersett, recording a conversion with right-wing extremist Joseph Milteer. The transcript is taken from Harold Weisberg's essay The Milteer Documents...

EXCERPT...

SOMERSETT: I don't know, I think Kennedy is coming here on the 18th, or something like that to make some kind of speech, I don't know what it is, but I imagine it will be on the TV, and you can be on the look for that, I think it is the 18th that he is suppose to be here. I don't know what it is suppose to be about.

MILTEER: You can bet your bottom dollar he is going to have a lot to say about the Cubans, there are so many of them here.

SOMERSETT: Yeah, well he will have a thousand bodyguards, don't worry about that.

MILTEER: The more bodyguards he has, the easier it is to get him.

SOMERSETT: What?

MILTEER: The more bodyguards he has the more easier it is to get him.

SOMERSETT: Well how in the hell do you figure would be the best way to get him?

MILTEER: From an office building with a high-powered rifle, how many people does he have going around who look just like him? Do you know about that?

SOMERSETT: No, I never heard that he had anybody.

MILTEER: He has got them.

SOMERSETT: He has?

MILTEER: He has about fifteen. Whenever he goes any place they he knows he is a marked man.

SOMERSETT: You think he knows he is a marked man?

MILTEER: Sure he does.

SOMERSETT: They are really going to try to kill him?

MILTEER: Oh, yeah, it is in the working, Brown himself, Brown is just as likely to get him as anybody. He hasn't said so, but he tried to get Martin Luther King.

SOMERSETT: He did.

MILTEER: Oh yes, he followed him for miles and miles, and couldn't get close enough to him.

SOMERSETT: You know exactly where he is in Atlanta don't you.

MILTEER: Martin Luther King, yeah.

SOMERSETT: Bustus Street .

MILTEER: Yeah 530.

SOMERSETT: Oh Brown tried to get him huh?

MILTEER: Yeah.

SOMERSETT: Well, he will damn sure do it, I will tell you that. Well, that is why, look, you see, well, that is why we have to be so careful, you know that Brown is operating strong.

MILTEER: He ain't going to play you know.

SOMERSETT: That is right.

MILTEER: He is going for broke.

SOMERSETT: I never asked Brown about his business or anything, you know just what he told me, told us, you know. But after the conversation, and the way he talked to us, there is no question in my mind about who knocked the church off in Birmingham, you can believe that, that is the way I figured it.

MILTEER: That is right, it is about the ony way you can figure it.

SOMERSETT: That is right.

MILTEER: Not being there, not knowing anything.

SOMERSETT: But just from his conversation, as you and me know him, but if they did, it is their business, like you say .

MILTEER: It is up to the individual.

SOMERSETT: That is right. They are individual operators, we don't want that within the party. Hitting this Kennedy is going to be a hard proposition, I tell you, I believe, you may have figured out a way to get him, you may have figured out the office building, and all that. I don't know how them Secret Service agents cover all them office buildings, or anywhere he is going, do you know whether they do that or not?

MILTEER: Well, if they have any suspicion they do that of course. But without suspicion chances are that they wouldn't. You take there in Washington, of course it is the wrong time of the year, but you take pleasant weather, he comes out on the veranda, and somebody could be in a hotel room across the way there, and pick him off just like .

SOMERSETT: Is that right?

MILTEER: Sure, disassemble a gun, you don't have to take a gun up there, you can take it up in pieces, all those guns come knock down, you can take them apart.

CONTINUED...

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=9963&relPageId=181

So instead of the righteous indignation routine, Archae, try to screw up the courage to asked why the FBI didn't act to protect President Kennedy?

[hifiguy]

64. Seriously, read Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann's book

"Legacy of Secrecy." It explains all of the deep CIA/Mafia background of the JFK assassination. And it has been established seemingly forever that Oswald was a low-level CIA asset and had been for years; he was also set up as the patsy by top mobsters and a truly lunatic CIA operative named David Morales, who was working for the Mob as much as for the CIA. Morales actually confessed to being a key player in the JFK hit. And Jack Ruby had tight mob connections going back for decades.

[ChazInAz]

66. Way off topic.

[Octafish]

67. Right on topic. Ask Abraham BOLDEN, first African American Secret Service agent on White House duty.

Personally appointed by President John F. Kennedy to the White House detail, Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden reported overt racism by his fellow agents and outright hostility toward the "n------loving president," quoting fellow Secret Service agents on the JFK detail.



Abraham Bolden speaks at JFK Lancer.



The story of a man who told the truth:

After 45 Years, a Civil Rights Hero Waits for Justice

Thom Hartmann
June 12, 2009 11:52 AM

A great miscarriage of justice has kept most Americas from learning about a Civil Rights pioneer who worked with President John F. Kennedy. But there is finally a way for citizens to not only right that wrong, but bring closure to the most tragic chapter of American presidential history.

After an outstanding career in law enforcement, Abraham Bolden was appointed by JFK to be the first African American presidential Secret Service agent, where he served with distinction. He was part of the Secret Service effort that prevented JFK's assassination in Chicago, three weeks before Dallas. But Bolden was framed by the Mafia and arrested on the very day he went to Washington to tell the Warren Commission staff about the Chicago attempt against JFK.

Bolden was sentenced to six years in prison, despite glaring problems with his prosecution. His arrest resulted from accusations by two criminals Bolden had sent to prison. In Bolden's first trial, an apparently biased judge told the jury that Bolden was guilty, even before they began their deliberations. Though granted a new trial because of that, the same problematic judge was assigned to oversee Bolden's second trial, which resulted in his conviction. Later, the main witness against Bolden admitted committing perjury against him. A key member of the prosecution even took the fifth when asked about the perjury. Yet Bolden's appeals were denied, and he had to serve hard time in prison, and today is considered a convicted felon.

After the release of four million pages of JFK assassination files in the 1990s, it became clear that Bolden -- and the official secrecy surrounding the Chicago attempt against JFK -- were due to National Security concerns about Cuba, that were unknown to Bolden, the press, Congress, and the public not just in 1963, but for the next four decades.

SNIP...

Abraham Bolden paid a heavy price for trying to tell the truth about events involving the man he was sworn to protect -- JFK -- that became mired in National Security concerns. Bolden still lives in Chicago, and has never given up trying to clear his name.

Will Abraham Bolden live to finally see the justice so long denied to him?

CONTINUED...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thom-hartmann/after-45-years-a-civil-ri_b_213834.html

After the assassination, he went to Washington on his own dime and reported what he saw to the Warren Commission. For his trouble -- and despite an exemplary record as a Brinks detective, Illinois State Trooper, and Secret Service agent -- Bolden was framed by the government using a paid informant's admitted perjury and spent a long time in prison. The government also drugged him and put him into psychiatric hospitals. His real crime was telling the truth.

Americans know the Truth: the country hasn't been the same since Nov. 22, 1963. President Kennedy kept the nation out of Vietnam and started toward the moon. Imagine what the New Frontier could have become for us today? Certainly would not be a time where "money trumps peace."

[iamthebandfanman]

2. lmao

"we will not hide!" says the person hiding behind makeup and clothing and refusing to give her name... lmao....

man o man, if it wasn't so scary how enthusiastically self righteous and ignorant some right wingers are.. id be giggling all day long.

[Octafish]

6. Longstanding Traditional Garb

[Iamthetruth]

72. My brother

Sent $100 to the fund and he is as far left as it comes, but he is a cop as well and says unless you worked the job you have no idea how fast thing move.

[iamthebandfanman]

73. the amount of pressure

involved in the job isn't being questioned...

its the ability of departments to hire and find people capable of handling said pressure that needs evaluation imho

[KJG52]

3. "We are Darren Wilson," Really...

So, it has now become so racist and crazy, that the lunatic fringe is supporting murdering cops, just because, as there have been no findings or claims on Wilson's behalf that are reasons for support. Unless murdering black teenagers is a socially acceptable and justifiable action by police in any event...

[Octafish]

7. Is weird. While it shows how little imagination they have...

They always have to borrow from the Liberal perspective, that is the phrase "We all are _____________", from Spartacus to Michael Brown, it also helps them use language to gain politically.

Look what they did to "It takes a village to raise a child" and we can see how the right uses its hatred to move the political syntax rightward. And, from what I can tell, has served to move the nation in the same direction.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

26. It takes a village to shoot a child? nt

[Niceguy1]

35. there are times it is justified

But in this case it appears not to be. We had a kid , a large one, ambush a cop with a bat, and the cop almost was down amd out by the time he got a shot off.

[Niceguy1]

11. I think he's guilty but honestly....

we don't know shit. nothing has been released but flimsy opinions.

[riversedge]

29. I think

Wilson went momentarily Wacko---from Fear? Hate? something in-between ??? He has no hisory of being a bigot. I think they would have found some history if it were out there by this time. IMHO.


As you say, we do not know at this point. Will be ever know??

[jeff47]

30. Actually, the silence is rather telling.

If the police had nice, strong evidence, they would have leaked it by now. Heck, they'd have even bothered to actually complete an incident report.

The fact that they're saying nothing speaks volumes about what information they do have.

[SnakeEyes]

51. speculation based on nothing concrete

[jeff47]

56. Yes, nothing concrete like violating the law by not completing an incident report

Why, it makes perfect sense to break the law to hide all your fantastic evidence.

[SnakeEyes]

62. Actually not violating the law

They didn't have to because the case was almost immediately turned over the county police. County PD would have an incident report instead. And that won't get released until after the grand jury.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

13. The only supposed justification for his use of deadly force comes from ultra nut right wing sources

Supposedly, on the tape showing Brown's body lying in the street for five hours, there is a voice off screen that can be heard saying that Brown came forward just before the fatal shot was fired. That was noticed by a right wing nutter website named Conservative Treehouse. The Daily Caller then picked it up and started talking about the "bull rush" and, together with Josie's rant to a radio talk show, it went from "came forward" to "bull rush". Finally, Fox News picked it up. It might even have been Wilson himself, off camera, who said Brown was coming forward (whether that means staggered forward a couple steps or more is unknown). Without forensic evidence or witnesses, the nuts are convinced that Brown bull rushed officer Wilson. And probably in too many cases, they don't really care if there was unjustified use of deadly force, considering the races of the individuals involved.

I'm appalled that there have been members of DU with more than a handful of posts who have been repeating the version coming exclusively from insane sources like The Daily Caller (there have been very few but they really stick out).

It's also ironic that right wing psychotic nuts can immediately go from hating on cops at the Bundy Ranch because they represent big government along with hating lawyers who defend criminals, and hating unions, to applauding a white cop who shoots and unarmed citizen and a cop who is told to clam up, not issue a report, or a statement upon advice of the police union lawyer.

[orbitalman]

8. It Only Takes One Koch-off...

to equal a billion victim supporters.

[DallasNE]

9. As George Zimmerman Quickly Learned

A white man killing an unarmed young black man can be highly profitable. Darren Wilson is now following in Zimmerman's footsteps.

[Blue_Tires]

61. +1

It just might be the one guaranteed surefire fundraiser...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

10. And why do they support Darren Wilson?

He has yet to release a statement. He has not filed a report on the incident unless you count a blank sheet of paper bearing his name and badge number. No forensic evidence has been released to justify his use of deadly force. No witness statement has been made to justify his use of deadly force. Do these people honestly think cops can do no wrong, ever? Or do they even care about that factor, considering Wilson's skin color?

[onecaliberal]

23. Because he's white period.

It's not because he's a cop because the right tards turn against them too when it comes to gun crazies.

[kelliekat44]

39. That point should not be lost on anyone. The RW hates cops but loves them when they kill blacks and

Hispanics. The only ones holding load, live assault weapons aimed at law enforcement are RW, NRA loving folks like those at the Bundy ranch. And who shot and killed cops as they sat in a restaurant? Not unarmed black teen,

[onecaliberal]

44. Its demonstrably true.

To deny that fact is to deny reality. It's ridiculous and it's really got to stop.

[Blue_Tires]

63. Because black lives have always been worth "less"

as far as the legal system is concerned...

[gaspee]

12. So are more cops

going to shoot unarmed black boys so they can hit the jackpot?

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

14. This week the right wing nuts love cops, lawyers, and unions

Not so during the Bundy Ranch incident where big government cops were the bad guys. Now they applaud a cop whose union lawyer advised him to clam up and remain silent.

What changed? (It's obvious of course).

[SoapBox]

19. Oh...

Didn't think of that...more "whiplash" for my brain.

[candelista]

27. You forgot "psychotic."

"Psychotic right wing nuts." That was your buen dicho in an earlier post. Are you cranking down the rhetoric? Going soft? Thinking about voting Republican?

[Dont call me Shirley]

15. The Racists supporting him have the big money

They have stolen "their" money using degradation, division and enslavement of others. Sick, evil humans the Racists are.

[PFunk]

16. And how long will it be before cops start getting shot back in responce.

Not something I want to see but I do see that day coming. The days of officer friendly are now so long gone. Many of these folks now see the police as occupying force to keep blacks and other non-whites in check. And blow-back usually is the result. Thanks for feeding the fire idiots.

[SoapBox]

18. They Serve, To Protect...Their Own.

[BlueCaliDem]

60. Yep. That's exactly it. eom

[heaven05]

20. speaks volumes

but given this society, no surprise. These people are itching for a confrontation with those others...................

[Jack Rabbit]

21. Fundraiser for the Brown Family

Please click here.

OK, my fellow evil DUers, let's see if we can help remedy this injustice. I live on disability, and I just chipped in a small amount.

[mnhtnbb]

47. I'm glad to see this posted.

Thanks for providing the link.

[catrose]

50. Done. n/t

[Maraya1969]

24. A lot of people do not know the details of this shooting.

I didn't know the details until recently when I looked it up. And that was when a friend said she heard that Wilson had a cracked eye socket.

[rpannier]

28. the cracked eye socket has been debunked

I think it was on Thursday

http://politix.topix.com/stmt/8G537RM74NFPKC3U

http://1newsjunkie.blogspot.kr/2014/08/cnn-contradicts-fox-sources-claiming.html

http://www.salon.com/2014/08/21/cnn_refutes_claim_that_officer_darren_wilson_had_a_fractured_eye_socket/

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/08/conflicting_reports_cnn_source_claims_ferguson_cop_did_not_have_fractured.html

[Maraya1969]

32. Oh I know that. That is what got me reading about the incidentals.

[rpannier]

33. Wasn't sure

But this gives you another source

[SnakeEyes]

52. First link cites no source

all the other links are just parroting CNN and their claim by an anonymous source. So it's not debunked and it's not proven. I this case we actually do have to wait for details from primary named sources.

[TorchTheWitch]

69. nobody knows the details

And we won't until after the investigation and those details are publicized. Everything else is speculation and rumor.

[rpannier]

25. First they were all John Galt

Now they're David Wilson
Thieves and murderers

So proud

[onecent]

31. This makes me sick!!!

[theHandpuppet]

34. Our nation is sick

Sick with the poison of racism.

[Judi Lynn]

37. If they are Darren Wison, they all should serve life sentences for murdering an unarmed person.

They should also be shunned by civilized people until their trip to "the big house".

Thank you, Octopus, for your information regarding Prof. Donald E. Wilkes.

[Octafish]

57. There is a great disconnect between those who respect human life and those who love property.

You are most welcome, Judi Lynn!



Prof. Donald E. Wilkes stands out in that he is unafraid to state the truth and what he sees it means.

Here are JFK related articles he wrote for Flagpole magazine:

http://www.flagpole.com/authors/view/26

[ancianita]

38. It sucks. With all due disgust, there probably are more racists than black people in the US.

Anytime they won't give their names, they should fear their hate. It means there's still hope for their despicable souls.

[cantbeserious]

40. Situational Racists With Money - Wonder How Much Came From The Koch Brothers

eom

[Spitfire of ATJ]

41. This may shock USA Today but money isn't REALLY "speech".

[6000eliot]

43. Is this a contest? If so, it's a pretty bizarre one.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

45. The Officer Darren Wilson fund money is going to a union

The gofundme page collecting contributions has been moved over to the police union that is collecting the money. I wonder if the conservative law-and-order types know their money is going to a union (Lodge 15 of the Fraternal Order of Police).

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jacobfischler/gofundme-page-for-darren-wilson-replaced-by-tax-deductible-c#3zgwfvg

[sendero]

48. Well.

... he's going to need it because at the very least he is going to be on one trial or another for a very long time.

[mariawr]

49. Hopefully it goes to the Brown family in settlement. nt

[AuntPatsy]

53. I seriously DOuBt this is true How would they

Know? Propaganda nothing more

[Octafish]

55. USA Today is a Gannett paper. They usually back up what they print.

From the article:

A crowd-funding page created for Wilson raised $235,010 from 5,902 people before organizers stopped accepting donations Friday after surpassing their goal of $100,000 in four days. The group then opened a new fundraising page, which already has more than $104,000.

This amount surpasses the more than $214,000 raised in support of the Michael Brown Memorial Fund. According to the page, which was set up by Brown family lawyer Benjamin Crump, "the funds will assist his family with costs that they will acquire as they seek justice on Michael's behalf."

The article links to the various organizations listing the amounts.

If I find different numbers, I'll try to make sure to add them.

[randome]

54. I think Wilson's best option is to come clean and hope for a lenient jury.

Serve some time. Otherwise, his life will be in danger. At the very least he will need to hide his identity. I'm not saying that it's justifiable to want to exact revenge on him. I'm saying that may be inevitable at this point.

A very public and heartfelt apology is also needed.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

[L0oniX]

58. It's blood money from collaborators in murder IMO.

[alsame]

59. A blonde, white woman to

read the statement. Coincidence, I'm sure.

[Octafish]

68. I vish zey all kould be Kalifornia girls, ja.

Edwin Black documented how the NAZIs got inspiration from American Academia.

Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection

by Edwin Black
Sunday, November 9, 2003

Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a so-called Master Race.

But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little-known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

Eugenics was the pseudoscience aimed at "improving" the human race. In its extreme, racist form, this meant wiping away all human beings deemed "unfit," preserving only those who conformed to a Nordic stereotype. Elements of the philosophy were enshrined as national policy by forced sterilization and segregation laws, as well as marriage restrictions, enacted in 27 states. In 1909, California became the third state to adopt such laws. Ultimately, eugenics practitioners coercively sterilized some 60,000 Americans, barred the marriage of thousands, forcibly segregated thousands in "colonies," and persecuted untold numbers in ways we are just learning. Before World War II, nearly half of coercive sterilizations were done in California, and even after the war, the state accounted for a third of all such surgeries.

California was considered an epicenter of the American eugenics movement. During the 20th century's first decades, California's eugenicists included potent but little-known race scientists, such as Army venereal disease specialist Dr. Paul Popenoe, citrus magnate Paul Gosney, Sacramento banker Charles Goethe, as well as members of the California state Board of Charities and Corrections and the University of California Board of Regents.

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America's most respected scientists from such prestigious universities as Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics' racist aims.

CONTINUED...

http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/offSiteArchive/www.sfgate.com/index.html

Edwin Black should be required reading for all high school and college students, a top scholar. For some reason, his works get almost no coverage in American media. Another coincidence!

[alsame]

71. "Harold, call me"

[IMG][/IMG]

They know their audience.

[hifiguy]

65. Bottom-dwelling racist assholes will

be bottom-dwelling racist assholes.

[SansACause]

70. How much did George Zimmerman donate?

After all, he's loaded thanks to these dopes.