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Omaha Steve

(99,580 posts)
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 11:33 AM Aug 2014

Ukraine: Russian tank column enters southeast

Source: AP-EXCITE

By JIM HEINTZ

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — A column of Russian tanks and armored vehicles has crossed into southeastern Ukraine, away from where most of the intense fighting has been taking place, a top Ukrainian official said Monday.

Col. Andriy Lysenko, a spokesman for Ukraine's National Security Council, told reporters that the column of 10 tanks, two armored vehicles and two trucks crossed the border near Shcherbak and that the nearby city of Novoazovsk was shelled during the night from Russia. He said they were Russian military vehicles bearing the flags of the separatist Donetsk rebels.

In Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Monday he had no information about the column.

The reported incursion and shelling could indicate an attempt to move on Mariupol, a major port on the Azov Sea, an arm of the Black Sea. Mariupol lies on the main road between Russia and Ukraine's Black Sea peninsula of Crimea, which Russia annexed in March. Capturing Mariupol could be the first step in building a slice of territory that links Russia with Crimea.

FULL story at link.



Pro-Russian rebels escort captured Ukrainian army prisoners in a central square in Donetsk, eastern Ukraine, Sunday, Aug. 24, 2014. Ukraine has retaken control of much of its eastern territory bordering Russia in the last few weeks, but fierce fighting for the rebel-held cities of Donetsk and Luhansk persists. (AP Photo/Sergei Grits)


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20140825/eu--ukraine-e59dbfebbe.html

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Ukraine: Russian tank column enters southeast (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2014 OP
Have they found some pictures of the last one they allegedly destroyed ? /nt jakeXT Aug 2014 #1
What, you want actual evidence? Demeter Aug 2014 #2
Joyride,that's all LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #3
Right, sure they did! :) candelista Aug 2014 #4
I stopped reading at "a top Ukrainian official said". Associate Propaganda Purveyor Aug 2014 #5
The Junta that Cried "Wolf"... MattSh Aug 2014 #6
Isn't marching prisoners of war through a city with hands tied a war crime? NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #7
In the grand scheme of things, maybe a war misdemeanor. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #8
I think the rebel quote was... Omaha Steve Aug 2014 #9
Bush would say no jakeXT Aug 2014 #10
So, in other words, that would be a yes. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #11
Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2014 #12
Weapons convoys seen rolling in eastern Ukraine Bosonic Aug 2014 #13

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
10. Bush would say no
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 02:12 PM
Aug 2014
Yet, the mainstream U.S. media stayed silent about the obvious inconsistency between its outrage over the footage of the American soldiers and the U.S. media’s decision only a few days earlier to run repeated clips of Iraqis identified as prisoners of war.

In that case, Iraqi POWs were paraded before U.S. cameras as “proof” that Iraqi resistance was crumbling. Some of the scenes showed Iraqi POWs forced at gunpoint to kneel down with their hands behind their heads as they were patted down by U.S. soldiers. Yet neither U.S. officials nor U.S. reporters covering the war for the major news networks observed how those scenes might be a violation of international law.

Nor did the U.S. media see fit to remind viewers how President George W. Bush had stripped prisoners of war captured in Afghanistan of their rights under the Geneva Conventions. Bush ordered hundreds of captives from Afghanistan to be put in tiny outdoor cages at Camp X-Ray in Guantanamo Bay.

The prisoners were shaved bald and forced to kneel down with their eyes, ears and mouths covered to deprive them of their senses. The shackled prisoners were filmed being carried on stretchers to interrogation sessions. Their humiliation was broadcast for all the world to see but the treatment was accepted by the U.S. press as just fine.

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/25/selective-outrage-over-ukraine-pows/

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
12. Exactly, Sir
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 03:44 PM
Aug 2014

Just like some people find it hard to get their minds around the concept that if it is a crime when others do something, it is a crime when the U.S. does it, there are some people who find it very hard to wrap their minds around the concept that if it is a crime when the United States does it, it is a crime when others do it....

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It is only the others who suffer. It is the same when you are stupid."

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
13. Weapons convoys seen rolling in eastern Ukraine
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 04:22 PM
Aug 2014
Weapons convoys seen rolling in eastern Ukraine

KRASNODON, Ukraine (AP)
— AP reporters say convoys of military weaponry and supplies have been coming from the direction of Russia into rebel-held Ukraine.

Rebel fighters also described how Russian border guards did nothing to stop them.

Associated Press reporters in the eastern Ukrainian town of Krasnodon observed three such convoys last week.

NATO and Ukraine have accused Moscow outright of covertly shuttling heavy artillery and other weapons to the separatists. Russia routinely denies the allegations.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/weapons-convoys-seen-rolling-eastern-ukraine
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