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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:22 PM Aug 2014

Saudi King Says Terrorists Will Reach Europe In A Month, America In Two

Source: Associated Press

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — The king of Saudi Arabia has warned that extremists could attack Europe and the U.S. if there is not a strong international response to terrorism after the Islamic State group seized a wide territory across Iraq and Syria.

While not mentioning any terrorist groups by name, King Abdullah's statement appeared aimed at drawing Washington and NATO forces into a wider fight against the Islamic State group and its supporters in the region. Saudi Arabia openly backs rebels fighting Syrian President Bashar Assad, but is concerned that the breakaway al-Qaida group could also turn those very same weapons on the kingdom.

"I am certain that after a month they will reach Europe and, after another month, America," he said at a reception for foreign ambassadors Friday.

Official Saudi media carried the king's comments early Saturday.

"These terrorists do not know the name of humanity and you have witnessed them severing heads and giving them to children to walk with in the street," the king said, urging the ambassadors to relay his message directly to their heads of state.

Read more: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765658887/Saudi-king-warns-of-terrorist-threat-to-Europe-US.html

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Saudi King Says Terrorists Will Reach Europe In A Month, America In Two (Original Post) Purveyor Aug 2014 OP
So what the fuck are the Saudis doing? n/t albino65 Aug 2014 #1
probably funding them like they did with the 911 hijackers! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2014 #9
Srsly, why doesn't he just buy them plane tickets? XemaSab Aug 2014 #15
He'll just fly them over on the Royal 747. nt HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #36
He's giving them their marching orders. nt abakan Aug 2014 #38
This x 2977 (nt) KansDem Aug 2014 #47
that's what i think samsingh Aug 2014 #75
Funding them tazkcmo Aug 2014 #77
Funding them? Carolina Aug 2014 #81
My question exactly mcar Aug 2014 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Turbineguy Aug 2014 #2
Most of their funding comes from Saudi Arabia - they should know FreakinDJ Aug 2014 #3
Sounds to me like the 'King' is getting a bit nervous, indeed. "Chickens about Purveyor Aug 2014 #8
We'll all have to buy new globes when it's changed back to Arabia.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #18
Iran has been "Iran" for the last 2000 years -- "Persia" is the Greek name starroute Aug 2014 #30
+1 Aristus Aug 2014 #51
It would be great PR to deflate McCain's bomb boner. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #67
+1,000 n/t LarryNM Aug 2014 #12
They don't need them as much anymore flamingdem Aug 2014 #20
and Qatar according to reports.. LiberalArkie Aug 2014 #25
ok we will help if you give us all your oil at half price Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #4
Whatever happened to the idea of draining the swamp? Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #5
Might be a good time to release the unredacted report implicating Saudis in 9-11. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #6
+1000 Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #31
+ a brazilion undeterred Aug 2014 #62
You really think that's all it's going to implicate? JackRiddler Aug 2014 #70
+ 1000! n/t wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #83
Question: who is one of the primary sponsors of IS? intaglio Aug 2014 #7
yep! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2014 #11
+1,000! n/t ozone_man Sep 2014 #84
British musicians - the new terrorist threat? nt bananas Aug 2014 #10
I say we retaliate... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2014 #52
Naw, just send him back to Canada. nt HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #69
I think Obama is waiting for Europe and ME to get involved. louis-t Aug 2014 #13
Also, none of those countries want reprisals flamingdem Aug 2014 #17
Agreed. They are getting hit now. louis-t Aug 2014 #21
I agree cilla4progress Aug 2014 #37
Saudi King says he wants higher oil prices DJ13 Aug 2014 #14
What he doesn't admit is the main concern - flamingdem Aug 2014 #16
Excellent point. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #32
Let's you and him fight. Shadowflash Aug 2014 #19
+1000 Shipwack Aug 2014 #41
Sorry kingie, your buddies aren't in charge here anymore tularetom Aug 2014 #22
How about the 15,000 members of the Royal Family either abdicate or join the military? Divernan Aug 2014 #23
terrotsts? DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #24
Boogey boogey Boo! morningfog Aug 2014 #26
+1. nt candelista Aug 2014 #48
maybe he and Bill O should do a Faux special report azurnoir Aug 2014 #27
the threat has always been there, they are trying to sucker us in still_one Aug 2014 #28
Including Iran? happyslug Aug 2014 #54
I doubt they will Ally overtly with Iran, however, I can see a situation where they accommodate each still_one Aug 2014 #64
Neah neah-neah neah neah. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2014 #29
Step right up and fight ISIS, your majesty. We'll hold your coat. Dems to Win Aug 2014 #33
I read that as a threat, coming form their CFO and all. elehhhhna Aug 2014 #34
oh oh noes. where wil lthe saudi royals go boozing, drugging and whoring if elehhhhna Aug 2014 #35
Why should we go in and clean up YOUR failed black op, Mr Abdullah? roamer65 Aug 2014 #39
I guess he knows because his country trains terrorists... Jamastiene Aug 2014 #40
Say what!!! Wellstone ruled Aug 2014 #42
^^^THIS^^^ 2naSalit Aug 2014 #45
Saudi King is full of it Demeter Aug 2014 #43
Wolf says there will be howling soon Tom Ripley Aug 2014 #44
He oughta know. Brigid Aug 2014 #46
Yes, We should invade and shut down ISIS's funding source countries in the middle east. n/t n2doc Aug 2014 #49
King Abdullah-Bush sez whut?!?! blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #53
ISIS is YOUR Frankenstein, Abdullah. You put boots on the ground. We're done bleeding for you. nt SunSeeker Aug 2014 #55
How much have the Saudis given to "these terrorists?" Renew Deal Aug 2014 #56
Why the arbitrary "two months"? kentauros Aug 2014 #57
They're awaiting the results of their embassy interviews rpannier Aug 2014 #60
I'm sure Saudi Arabia can afford to fake all of the legal stuff. kentauros Aug 2014 #61
They have to load all those white Toyota pickup trucks on cargo planes. candelista Aug 2014 #65
I laughed at the Toyota pickup part! kentauros Aug 2014 #66
It's not arbitrary. tazkcmo Aug 2014 #78
Because that info was left out of the story, kentauros Aug 2014 #80
the wahabbi shit comes home to roost Agony Aug 2014 #58
Good post. Just one comment. candelista Aug 2014 #68
i.e. give us more planes rpannier Aug 2014 #59
Says the guy beheading hashish dealers and sorcerers ... GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #63
Two months to get here? Sounds like the Saudis wouldn't spring for airline tickets, hedgehog Aug 2014 #71
Is this considered fear mongering ? Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #72
With his unlimited funds nilesobek Aug 2014 #73
And he should know. n/t malthaussen Aug 2014 #74
so saudi arabia is getting scared - their support of terror has created something out of samsingh Aug 2014 #76
If the Saudis stop giving them money, that would be unlikely. yurbud Aug 2014 #79
time to break out the plastic sheeting and duct tape? magical thyme Aug 2014 #82

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
15. Srsly, why doesn't he just buy them plane tickets?
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:47 PM
Aug 2014

It doesn't take a month to fly from Riyadh to London.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
81. Funding them?
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 07:55 PM
Aug 2014

More than that. Remember 15 of the 19 hijackers involved in 9/11 WERE SAUDI citizens as was Osama bin Laden.

The Saudis do a lot more than fund; they foment, they're train and they are the terrorists!

mcar

(42,295 posts)
50. My question exactly
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:11 PM
Aug 2014

I had this conversation with DH last night. The Saudis have more money than God and lots of US military equipment.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
8. Sounds to me like the 'King' is getting a bit nervous, indeed. "Chickens about
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:33 PM
Aug 2014

to come home to roost", perhaps.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
18. We'll all have to buy new globes when it's changed back to Arabia....
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:50 PM
Aug 2014

Iran should change it's name back to Persia at the same time.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
30. Iran has been "Iran" for the last 2000 years -- "Persia" is the Greek name
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:41 PM
Aug 2014

So there's really no question of changing "back."

Aristus

(66,309 posts)
51. +1
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:24 PM
Aug 2014

I have an Iranian friend. He says their language is Farsi, their culture is Persian, but their country is Iran, and always has been...

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
20. They don't need them as much anymore
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:51 PM
Aug 2014

SA should limit their funding to the Free Syrian Army. They seem to think that Isis in Syria is less radical?? If you don't mind crucifixtions and heads on stakes!

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
5. Whatever happened to the idea of draining the swamp?
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:32 PM
Aug 2014

King Abdullah is a mosquito.

Power to the people of Saudi Arabia.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
7. Question: who is one of the primary sponsors of IS?
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:33 PM
Aug 2014

Answer ... Saudi Arabia!

Personally I regard that as a threat by Abdullah, not a warning.

louis-t

(23,284 posts)
13. I think Obama is waiting for Europe and ME to get involved.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:40 PM
Aug 2014

If we lead the way, they will back off, thinking we should be the policemen. Their butts are on the line, too. What is Syria doing? What is Iraq doing? What is Iran doing? Is Saudi Arabia helping or hurting the situation? We know what the Kurds are doing. They are fighting back. UK is finally taking action (or thinking about it). We can't just do the neocon thing and go in with guns blazing.

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
17. Also, none of those countries want reprisals
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:50 PM
Aug 2014

so they'd rather have the US in the lead at least. However in this case they stand to lose a lot when Isil gets going in their countries or furthers their gains where they are now.

Obama is correct, we need to not lift a finger without their involvement, Kurds excepted of course.

louis-t

(23,284 posts)
21. Agreed. They are getting hit now.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:56 PM
Aug 2014

If they don't want to get their hands dirty, they're in for a long struggle.

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
16. What he doesn't admit is the main concern -
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:47 PM
Aug 2014

that the "terrorists" meaning Isis/Is etc will reach his kingdom within the same time frame! What he'd like is to continue business as usual and have the US clean up their mess.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
22. Sorry kingie, your buddies aren't in charge here anymore
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:56 PM
Aug 2014

And it appears that you can't bribe or scare off the guys who are in charge so why don't you STFU.

Besides, I don't think you really want anybody probing too deeply into where these assholes got their funding, do you?

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
23. How about the 15,000 members of the Royal Family either abdicate or join the military?
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:05 PM
Aug 2014
The Al Sauds also happen to field an unwieldy number of princes and princess; as many as 15,000 living highnesses and royal highnesses are spread across six branches of a family tree whose roots reach back to the 18th century.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/pomegranate/2014/03/saudi-royal-family

still_one

(92,116 posts)
28. the threat has always been there, they are trying to sucker us in
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:27 PM
Aug 2014

The only thing we should do.is supply air support for those countries requesting it and fighting ISIS

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
54. Including Iran?
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:38 PM
Aug 2014

The US only started its bombing after some SU 25s did some bombing. Iraq said these were Iraqi SU 25s, but they had none a mouth before and the last Iraqi pilots fly them to Iran during Desert Storm.

Thus the smart money says these were flown by Iranian pilots. Iran "Returned" the planes to Iraq just before Iraq used them to bomb ISIS positions. I suspect this was unexpected by the US, but all the US could do was to provide air support or Iran was going to do it

Iranian air support fir Iraq was unacceptable to the US but the US could not shoot down the "Iraqi" planes for technically we are on the same side as Iraq. Thus the only option open was to provide air support ourselves.

It is getting to be a real mess over there. The more I look at the situation, the US should ally with Iran and leave Iran take over the mess and straiten out the whole mess.

Iran and Turkey could come up with a division that would keep the peace for the next 50 years. Iran gets the oil (most of the oil is around the Persian Gulf), and the Turks gets to decide what type and size Kurdustan Turkey gets on its border. I

Israel may not like this for it would gave the Iranian army on its northern and eastern borders, but we all have to make sacrifices for peace.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
64. I doubt they will Ally overtly with Iran, however, I can see a situation where they accommodate each
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:40 PM
Aug 2014

other. I also can see that happening with Syria, and the Assad government believe it or not

You are right it is a real mess


 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
33. Step right up and fight ISIS, your majesty. We'll hold your coat.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:54 PM
Aug 2014

I'm glad Obama is limiting US response to air support. Time for some Saudi boots on the ground to fight their creation.

Given the US weapons sales to Saudi Arabia, they should be able to exterminate ISIS on their own, without any need for US air support.

There are not many people on this planet I despise more than the Saudi royal family.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
34. I read that as a threat, coming form their CFO and all.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:58 PM
Aug 2014

Fuck that guy. He's a jackass depot and friend of the bush family.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
35. oh oh noes. where wil lthe saudi royals go boozing, drugging and whoring if
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:59 PM
Aug 2014

eu and us are taken into the caliphate?

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
40. I guess he knows because his country trains terrorists...
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:22 PM
Aug 2014

or at least most of the ones from 9/11 were Saudis, were they not? Any country that flat out treats women that way can kiss my ass. Sounds more like a damn threat than a warning to me, because of the Saudis' history. I don't trust them, allies or not.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
42. Say what!!!
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:32 PM
Aug 2014

Deseret/Utah News,wow,these are the people who would not criticize any action by the Saudis or Israel and ran planted story after story from the Bush administration. How ironic that this right wing rag from Salt Lake City would run this story. The truth be known,Saudi Royal Family has and is supporting many of these radical groups. Friggen U.S.press is so chicken shit in covering these terror supporters. All about the Oil...

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
57. Why the arbitrary "two months"?
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:24 PM
Aug 2014

Are they sailing across the Atlantic in wooden ships? And during the peak of the hurricane season at that!

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
60. They're awaiting the results of their embassy interviews
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:48 PM
Aug 2014

Those can take up to 6 weeks for processing and approval

Then buying tickets, shopping for new clothes, packing, etc

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
61. I'm sure Saudi Arabia can afford to fake all of the legal stuff.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:51 PM
Aug 2014

Maybe the volcano in Iceland will blow soon and prevent air travel for the next six months due to ash fallout. Then they'll still have to take a boat during hurricane season

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
65. They have to load all those white Toyota pickup trucks on cargo planes.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:48 PM
Aug 2014

And all the ex-US MRAPS, Humvees, .50 caliber machine guns, extra copies of the Koran, camp followers, AK 47s, camels, hijjabs, jalabiyas, kaftans, etc. Rome wasn't built in a day.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
78. It's not arbitrary.
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 06:58 PM
Aug 2014

They say two months because according to the Saudi Terrorist Training Schedule their next class will graduate in 2 months and be "mission ready".

There is NOTHING arbitrary about the Saudi terror network.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
80. Because that info was left out of the story,
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 07:28 PM
Aug 2014

it comes across as arbitrary. So, either the Saudis were hiding that fact, or the reporter did a lousy job of rooting out the same fact. Probably a little of both

Agony

(2,605 posts)
58. the wahabbi shit comes home to roost
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:41 PM
Aug 2014

suck it up and deal with it king asshole
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000051&ir=Religion

"OIL WEALTH SPREAD WAHHABISM

With the advent of the oil bonanza -- as the French scholar, Giles Kepel writes, Saudi goals were to "reach out and spread Wahhabism across the Muslim world ... to "Wahhabise" Islam, thereby reducing the "multitude of voices within the religion" to a "single creed" -- a movement which would transcend national divisions. Billions of dollars were -- and continue to be -- invested in this manifestation of soft power. "

"

Abd al-Wahhab demanded conformity -- a conformity that was to be demonstrated in physical and tangible ways. He argued that all Muslims must individually pledge their allegiance to a single Muslim leader (a Caliph, if there were one). Those who would not conform to this view should be killed, their wives and daughters violated, and their possessions confiscated, he wrote. The list of apostates meriting death included the Shiite, Sufis and other Muslim denominations, whom Abd al-Wahhab did not consider to be Muslim at all.

There is nothing here that separates Wahhabism from ISIS. The rift would emerge only later: from the subsequent institutionalization of Muhammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab's doctrine of "One Ruler, One Authority, One Mosque" -- these three pillars being taken respectively to refer to the Saudi king, the absolute authority of official Wahhabism, and its control of "the word" (i.e. the mosque).

It is this rift -- the ISIS denial of these three pillars on which the whole of Sunni authority presently rests -- makes ISIS, which in all other respects conforms to Wahhabism, a deep threat to Saudi Arabia.
"

abdullah and ISIS are cut from the same cloth and deserve each other.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-declares-all-atheists-are-terrorists-in-new-law-to-crack-down-on-political-dissidents-9228389.html

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
68. Good post. Just one comment.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:13 PM
Aug 2014

Both Saudis and ISIS are Wahhabis. They just disagree about who should be the Caliph--somebody from ISIS or somebody from the Saudi royal family. This point isn't clear from the text.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
59. i.e. give us more planes
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:46 PM
Aug 2014

bombs
let us violate more human rights
ignore that we have funded many of these groups both directly and indirectly

GeorgeGist

(25,318 posts)
63. Says the guy beheading hashish dealers and sorcerers ...
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:11 PM
Aug 2014

Beheadings in Saudi Arabia, at least 19 die

At least 19 people have been beheaded in Saudi Arabia this month in a clampdown by the authorities on drug smuggling and “sorcery,” according to Human Rights Watch officials.

Four hashish smugglers were beheaded on Aug. 18, the latest in a string of executions across the country since the beginning of the month, Saudi Press Agency reported.

All four were men from the same family, reported the Independent, while another suspect, Mohammed bin Bakr al-Alawi, was beheaded for practicing black magic sorcery.

“Any execution is appalling, but executions for crimes such as drug smuggling or sorcery that result in no loss of life are particularly egregious,” said Sarah Leah Watson, Middle East and North Africa Director for Human Rights Watch.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/beheadings-saudi-arabia-top-19-dead-article-1.1914284

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
71. Two months to get here? Sounds like the Saudis wouldn't spring for airline tickets,
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 08:25 AM
Aug 2014

so they had to catch a ride on a freighter.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
73. With his unlimited funds
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 10:15 AM
Aug 2014

the King can exile his young, radical men to Jihad throughout the world and that's much preferable than for them to come home and be in his midst. If you want to compare beheadings with ISIS his kingdom doesn't come off as morally correct. I can't believe we sold these guys guns and planes even.

samsingh

(17,594 posts)
76. so saudi arabia is getting scared - their support of terror has created something out of
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 05:21 PM
Aug 2014

their control

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