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Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:34 PM Apr 2012

Walker gets support of Milwaukee police and firefighter unions

Source: The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Madison -- Two unions that were largely spared from Gov. Scott Walker's curbs on collective bargaining endorsed him Monday.

Walker is facing a recall this summer because of his successful plan to all but eliminate collective bargaining for most public workers. Walker's plan mostly left alone police officers and firefighters, and the unions representing Milwaukee cops and Milwaukee firefighters renewed their support for him Monday. The two were some of the only unions to endorse Walker when he initially ran in November 2010.

“Governor Walker has a strong record of supporting public safety with an unwavering commitment to first responders,” said a statement from Michael Crivello, president of the Milwaukee Police Association. “Today, we are proud to announce our support for Governor Walker’s reelection.”

The Walker campaign released a similar statement from Dave Seager, president of the Milwaukee Professional Firefighters Association.

SNIP

Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/145814335.html



Weren't both the Firefighters and police officers marching with the teachers a year ago against Walker's attack on collective bargaining rights?

The endorsement of Walker by these 2 unions is another reason why unions are on the decline. The Rethugs know how to divide and conquer.
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Walker gets support of Milwaukee police and firefighter unions (Original Post) Larkspur Apr 2012 OP
Screw You, We Got Ours. Ian David Apr 2012 #1
Divide and conquer. Oldest tactic in history. nanabugg Apr 2012 #44
I got mine...screw the rest of you... rfranklin Apr 2012 #2
How is that even logical....hello you dumbasses, he HATES UNIONS... truebrit71 Apr 2012 #3
And once he has destroyed the other unions... Kelvin Mace Apr 2012 #31
Absolute scabs. Kingofalldems Apr 2012 #4
Maybe not the Milwaukee cops & firemen. Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #5
is this an April Fools thing Skittles Apr 2012 #6
I don't think the membership EC Apr 2012 #7
These unions hate the residency rules HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #8
Reminds me of when PATCO endorsed Raygun Major Nikon Apr 2012 #9
Yes, same demographic. Many of my union also voted for Reagan. The link for those who don't believe: freshwest Apr 2012 #13
Not IAFF - this is like Bush touting firefighter support when IAFF was solid behind Kerry blm Apr 2012 #10
Solidarity! KT2000 Apr 2012 #11
+1 harun Apr 2012 #33
+another Kolesar Apr 2012 #42
The I'm protected so I'm not rocking the boat will backfire on them. Wonder IF their unions got Justice wanted Apr 2012 #12
That's sad abelenkpe Apr 2012 #14
Does this State have a central labor council? bayareaboy Apr 2012 #15
"Surely Walker won't try to destroy OUR union!" krispos42 Apr 2012 #16
Boooooooorrrnns... Blue Owl Apr 2012 #17
Disgraceful Roy Rolling Apr 2012 #18
They are stupid and short sighted. Jakes Progress Apr 2012 #20
Wow. Organized Scabs. Jakes Progress Apr 2012 #19
dumbasses- awoke_in_2003 Apr 2012 #21
Wow - how short sighted Smilo Apr 2012 #22
They get exactly what they fucking deserve ! A steaming pile of HORSESHIT ! RBInMaine Apr 2012 #23
I don't mean to insult the inteligence of our Police and Fire Persons... Fearless Apr 2012 #24
well then fuck them and what ever happens to them leftyohiolib Apr 2012 #25
That's a couple of selfish brotherhoods. "We got ours so fuck the rest of you brothers." nt ladjf Apr 2012 #26
Sounds like something out of a Howard Zinn book bluestateguy Apr 2012 #27
They bought of Scottie. Though when the time comes, they too will be Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #28
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #29
"...we are proud to announce our support for Governor Walker’s reelection." unkachuck Apr 2012 #30
The Madison firefighters were and still are. As were firefighters around the state. Saving Hawaii Apr 2012 #45
You missed the two key paragraphs happyslug Apr 2012 #32
There is a name for guys like those. Historic NY Apr 2012 #34
Would that name be "suck ass"? n/t indypaul Apr 2012 #48
Someone need protest their actions. cyclezealot Apr 2012 #35
What the HELL? DiverDave Apr 2012 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author xzwq Apr 2012 #39
This is by far the most bizarre thing you'll read all week... Earth_First Apr 2012 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author xzwq Apr 2012 #38
Time to replace the union leadership, pronto. nt bemildred Apr 2012 #40
lol. Do Democrats stick together on anything Thrill Apr 2012 #41
Jesus fucking christ what is WRONG with these guys? Arkana Apr 2012 #43
Fuckwit C students. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #47
Unions are family Great Caesars Ghost Apr 2012 #46

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
1. Screw You, We Got Ours.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:36 PM
Apr 2012

Madison -- Two unions that were largely spared from Gov. Scott Walker's curbs on collective bargaining endorsed him Monday.

Bastards.

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
44. Divide and conquer. Oldest tactic in history.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:17 PM
Apr 2012

Walker knew from the beginning that by exempting these two unions he would probably be able to withstand a recall. I only hope it was the union leadership putting this trash out and that the membership will vote to oust him. Walker will turn on them if he can retain his job and power. No where else to take from and Wisc. still has a bad budget problem

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
3. How is that even logical....hello you dumbasses, he HATES UNIONS...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:37 PM
Apr 2012

...makes as much sense as a Pro-Col. Sanders chicken...

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
5. Maybe not the Milwaukee cops & firemen.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:38 PM
Apr 2012

The Madison cops & firefighters, and many from elsewhere in the state, supported the protests.

For some reason, I thought back about 40 years, to when the Madison firemen supported the antiwar movement. The cops, of course, were out there beating on our heads.

EC

(12,287 posts)
7. I don't think the membership
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:39 PM
Apr 2012

is behind this. At least the ones I know personally...they are scared Walker will add them to the law to make it constitutional since the court just found that part of the law unconstitutional.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. These unions hate the residency rules
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:40 PM
Apr 2012

It's been an ongoing battle. Walker said he'd work to get rid of it, hence the support by these unions.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/139956573.html

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. Yes, same demographic. Many of my union also voted for Reagan. The link for those who don't believe:
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:04 PM
Apr 2012
http://unionreview.com/labor-still-reeling-1981-patco-strike

This was after years of union gains, but then Carter came along and implemented consent decrees for companies who had discriminated in employment for years to level the playing field. The EEOC and OSHA and all labor conditions took a drastic move downward and enforcement of the laws protecting workers were made almost impossible and the level of disrespect for the same workers was intense.

They never seemed to grasp the psychological trick, instead, they identified with the bosses and denigrated minorities even more. It was the end of the movements from the fifties and later to make this country live up to its ideals. And a number of postal service employers fit the same demographic described at the link. Those some of my friends were married to, hated Democrats, and voted for Bush in 2000.

This is a fine example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. The face was all the people coming into the labor force that didn't meet their approval, and the fear of sharing power with them. It had been more or less their private good old boys' club in these situations, and they counted on that nasty socialism from military service and government work to take them into a good retirement. They didn't give a damn about generations to come, they'd got theirs. They had various reasons to justify themselves being 'entitled' while others were left out of the American dream.

In the case of these police unions coming out for a man who is against rights for other state employees no matter what carrot was thrown to them, it's just sad. There are groups of people who truly do not believe in equality or fair treatment. I can't for the life of me guess how this is going to end up. I'd read somewhere that this year was going to be the year when people made a decision that will determine the next hundred years or more on this planet. Be for the rich and yourself only, hate the poor and the dispossessed, or unite as a whole.




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blm

(113,015 posts)
10. Not IAFF - this is like Bush touting firefighter support when IAFF was solid behind Kerry
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:43 PM
Apr 2012

GOP pulls this shit ALL the time - they confuse people with the different groups or a lone branch of a group. This is a lone branch of a group, so they'll explode it into a much bigger story. GOPs know that mainstream media will give THEIR endorsement way more coverage than it will give to any Dem endorsee.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
12. The I'm protected so I'm not rocking the boat will backfire on them. Wonder IF their unions got
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:04 PM
Apr 2012

screwed by Walker IF THEY would still stand with him....

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
15. Does this State have a central labor council?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:18 PM
Apr 2012

Then perhaps it is time for all other unions to force them out.

Don't those idiots know that in cities they need to hang together.

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
18. Disgraceful
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:14 PM
Apr 2012

This is what happens when unions are paid off with political favors in exchange for using the union name in advertisment, They have sold their good name to devious politicians for short-term crumbs.

I'll remember that the next time these firefighters and cops ask for support.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
20. They are stupid and short sighted.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:18 PM
Apr 2012

Just what union would support them in their next bid?

People like this are what give unions a bad name.

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
22. Wow - how short sighted
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:27 PM
Apr 2012

obviously they haven't put two and two together - Walker is owned by the Kochroaches and those kochroaches want to privatize everything.

Michael Crivello and Dave Seager are cretins and are selling out.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
24. I don't mean to insult the inteligence of our Police and Fire Persons...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 08:06 PM
Apr 2012

But these particular people are fucking stupid!

Do you honestly think that Gov. Walker will just let you keep your union after dismantling the others? Really?

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
25. well then fuck them and what ever happens to them
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 09:26 PM
Apr 2012

remember this the next time they put a levy on the ballot

Response to Larkspur (Original post)

 

unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
30. "...we are proud to announce our support for Governor Walker’s reelection."
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:24 PM
Apr 2012

"Weren't both the Firefighters and police officers marching with the teachers a year ago..."

....puke 'solidarity forever' lasts only a few months....if I were an over-taxed Milwaukee property owner, I would show my solidarity by demanding a reduction in police and firemen pay/benefits....

....if the police and firemen have enough resources to support walker, I would figure they have too many of my tax dollars....

Saving Hawaii

(441 posts)
45. The Madison firefighters were and still are. As were firefighters around the state.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:37 AM
Apr 2012

Apparently though the Milwaukee firefighters think it a good idea to bite the only hand that doesn't want to fuck them up the ass.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
32. You missed the two key paragraphs
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:06 PM
Apr 2012
Jim Palmer, executive director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association, called Monday's endorsements inappropriate. His group, which represents police officers everywhere in the state but Milwaukee, endorsed Barrett in 2010....

"I think the endorsement by these two unions of Scott Walker is an embarrassment," Palmer said.....

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
35. Someone need protest their actions.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 03:55 AM
Apr 2012

remember. the phrase . Solidarity Forever.. These guys are idiots..
We either hang together , or we will hang separately.
Its only a matter of time , until Milwaukee cops will be victimized too.
. Lets go after the leadership of these two unions. Give them our views..
The hypocrisy.. last year they demonstrated against Walker, now they are kissing his butt.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
36. What the HELL?
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 06:30 AM
Apr 2012

I guess it's true, they got theirs, screw the rest of us.

When I thought I'd seen the worst, more crap comes along.

Way to stick with your brothers, assholes.

Response to DiverDave (Reply #36)

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
37. This is by far the most bizarre thing you'll read all week...
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:17 AM
Apr 2012

I cannot for the life of me undserstand this!

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