Olbermann Says 'Screwed Up' With Move to Current.
Source: NYT/Reuters
Keith Olbermann, the liberal news anchor fired late last week from Current TV after only one year, said on Tuesday he had "screwed up really big" - by taking the job at the small TV channel in the first place.
In his first public appearance since his split from Current, Olbermann told talk show host David Letterman that he considered quitting Current as early as July 2011.
"I screwed up really big on this ... It's my fault that it didn't succeed in the sense that I didn't think the whole thing through," Olbermann told Letterman on Tuesday's "Late Show".
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/04/03/arts/03reuters-keitholbermann.html?hp
Botany
(70,447 posts)It was a "start up" biz that was to be built around you but you did not want to
work w/in any sort of guide lines.
When you are at work you go to work period. You did not do that.
jillan
(39,451 posts)But nooooooo - it was all about him rather than being there at the beginning of a true liberal station and taking it to the next level.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)The worst thing a critic on this subject can do is suppose they know the real reason Countdown on Current was the right decision. So, please cut the crap. None of us know, but YOU DO.
Use scenarios you are familiar with, to reason the reason behind his saying what he did. HE IS the professional when it comes to what he does. Who the fuck cares what how an EGO measures into this formula.
Look... If you are "building" from the ground up, and you see fundamental mistakes, as was expressed by a critical person being fired 10 days into the new venture, if you are a seasoned professional, the little voice inside your head saying, "uh-oh" is probably RIGHT.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)But thanks for playing...
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Who will hire him now?
Fool Count
(1,230 posts)out of place.
Riftaxe
(2,693 posts)How is Keith's Arabic these days?...
Fool Count
(1,230 posts)That would definitely be a possibility.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)but there's NO WAY that a significant percent of the American public wouldn't take that as an outright admission that liberal = murka-hating terriss.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)But, that means he finances his own brand his own self.
Bodhi BloodWave
(2,346 posts)would be when he is absent enough from his own show so that he'd have to fire himself
alp227
(32,006 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)So this ginormous diva thinks joining a startup means that all he has to do is sit on his ass and have his "chandelier" polished while everyone else does all of the work?
Keith needs to check into the concept "startup". Those places where you get in on the ground floor, roll up your sleeves, wear multiple hats, go without all of the GEM$NBC corporate perks, and hope to build something out of the dust and to eventually, possibly make a killing on it.
elleng
(130,732 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)he tried to get them to fix, also put cash into the set to make it look competitive. There is more to this than meets the eye. This has been talked about by those around him for a while. Lights even went out during broadcasts.
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)every broadcast and saw the lights go out. I saw shitty production on his show--Interviews being interrupted by commercials not once not twice but I can think of it happening 5 times.
Keith probably should have vented in a better manor BUT Gore should have done a better job with set, crew and production.
IT was one step above Armature hour.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)that was empty and ready for use. He wanted to be in NYC cause that is sexier and he chose an old building with lots of electrical issues. He didn't think through the concept of location.
Good luck Keith and have a happy retirement. You're rich and can just hang out as a beautiful person.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Please, 700 tweets on Twitter don't count!!!
Samantha
(9,314 posts)And that is a fact.
Sam
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)They went on air in 2005. Seven years should be enough to get one's shit together.
MADem
(135,425 posts)That's rude.
In for a penny, in for a pound, I suppose.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Keith could have and should have been the father of the network, and he could have overlooked small things realizing that his paycheck dwarfed those of the kids who were trying to make it grow.
But no, Ego is Ego, and Ego is to be fed, no matter what, just like John Edwards and Eliot Spitzer.
Speaking of which, let's see if Eliot uses this chance to redeem himself.
lordcommander
(215 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Bette Noir
(3,581 posts)My guess is that Current will go under within a year, same as Air America did after it fired Randi Rhodes.
Not that Keith and Randi are analogous, but that both venues displayed lousy business decisions. Keith could have made Current into a player, but they didn't support him. They'd rather have that low-life Spitzer, because he's cheaper. Well, if they didn't want to pay Keith, they shouldn't have offered him such a large contract.
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)It's not like Keith held a gun to their heads and forced them to pay him that much.
jade3000
(238 posts)I agree with his politics usually. But his obnoxious personality rubs me the wrong way. Yet somehow it worked when he was on ESPN doing sports. Guess it doesn't carry over to politics & the rest of society.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I share many of his views his politics are usually spot on, but I find him a bit off putting. Everyone can't be as good as Rachel.
jade3000
(238 posts)She's much more effective.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)If she's talking to someone, she seems genuinely interested in what the other person has to say, as opposed to "Let's you and me educate the rubes about how things are," or "Let's find out all the superficial things that Americans love to know."
bayareaboy
(793 posts)But not every Friday.
aquart
(69,014 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Fired from one big network gig? You're a rebel. Fired from another one that believed in you? You're starting to look like an untouchable prima donna.
Good luck with that.
badhair77
(4,208 posts)Did it happen other times? Are there technical issues with other programs on the network?
I'll be curious to see if it happens on Spitzer's show since it seems to be from the same studio.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)His agent had been told all would be taken care of. That didn't quite turn out to be true.
I just saw him on Letterman, and he gave a very reasonable explanation of what happened. I think we will see more of him in the future, and I personally really look forward to it.
Sam
PS He mentioned that one night he went to a commercial when a "brown out" was happening with the lights. When they returned from the break, all of a sudden the set went black. The electric bill had not been paid. I am thinking that is why he had that candle those last weeks!
Sam
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)is so republican leaning they wanted Keith out. How quickly people forget how they "SUSPENDED" Keith because he donated to a couple candidates. YET Morning Joe-ass DID THE SAME THING and HE DIDN"T GET A SLAP ON THE WRISTS.
THIS is the same MSNBC that basically toss Cenk-Young Turks- because he was too LIBERAL!
Maybe Keith's ego was part of the Factor BUT Let's just remember how we watch Comcast Owned MSNBC forced Keith out. A Lot of people screamed about his miss treatment now all of a sudden it is his fault.
So which is it?
Samantha
(9,314 posts)His lawyers had been in negotiation for months with MSNBC to agree upon terms to end the contract. That agreement was concluded that Friday that was his last broadcast. He was given no time to say goodbye to the audience.
But Rachel Maddow herself confirmed that Keith quit in an interview on another show. She would not have said that were it not true.
Sam
PS Comcast owns 10% percent of Current. It invested early and gave Current some distribution access. It is entirely possible when Current decided to start broadcasting political news, MSNBC was not at all fond of some of the hosts that were chose for the show....
Another postscript: Those political donations Keith Olbermann made were for political opponents Comcast opposed. And that is why it was made into a big deal. Olbermann said on air there was nothing in his contract about getting network approval before making political donations and that is why he had not chosen to do so. Additionally, NBC did not have that in writing with its staff. Keith wanted to leave MSNBC because he thought when the merger was finalized with Comcast, Comcast would try to muzzle him.
Bette Noir
(3,581 posts)When's the last time you heard Rachel give a Republican a really tough interview? Before Keith quit/ Comcast took over.
elleng
(130,732 posts)and she doesn't do 'tough' interviews, she does thoughtful and thorough interviews, and repugs avoid her, they are afraid of her thoroughness.
To answer your question: Buddy Roemer.
elleng
(130,732 posts)russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)what he did... What a shame...
Coyote_Bandit
(6,783 posts)will be on an even smaller broadcast network.
Given his work history and his attitude that would seem appropriate.
juajen
(8,515 posts)other times. I detest this picking at Keith, and what the hell is wrong with ego? He basically gave us Rachael. Be grateful people and don't be backstabbers. I loved his show and miss it still. I didn't get current, but I tuned into MSNBC every night Keith was on. God bless you Keith. I know your brilliance will shine elsewhere.
Coyote_Bandit
(6,783 posts)to undermine some of our Dem leaders in order to advance his own agenda and his preferred leaders/candidates.
I find that unprofessional, personally offensive and disrespectful to other Dems that have informed but different views. It fosters division and resentment within the party. I don't consider any of that good and it is certainly nothing I care to patronize by watching.
I have no respect for him. Though I admit I might listen to him again if he finds his sorry egotistical ass back on the sports desk. His work history and long string of firings hardly warrant such an opportunity. Regardless of how he tries to spin it, the the one thing all those firings have in common is KO.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Everytime we get a liberal voice in the media we pick it apart. If it is a conservative Democrat no one really makes a fuss. But if we get an Olbermann or a Michael Moore then there is no way for them to be angelic enough or perfect enough. It is absurd.
NolanC
(1 post)pacalo
(24,721 posts)I found it difficult to watch their network online. On two different occasions I got an unwanted, very annoying add-on from clicking on that link ("rtv"?).
It's disappointing to read through all the negative remarks. Now that we don't need him -- after all, we have Rachel, Ed, Larry, Al, Martin, & Chris on MSNBC; Spitzer, Stephanie, et al, on CurrentTV because of Keith -- we should jump on the network CEOs' bandwagon & ridicule Keith for his "ego" & for "not getting along with others"?
The fact is, until CurrentTV pounds the sidewalks in getting its network shown on all cable-tv, it's a rinky-dink operation that is unwatchable online. It is what it is, & I don't blame Keith for being disgusted that promises to him were broken.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)I just joined this thread and am happy to see you here. Did you see Keith Olbermann on Letterman tonight? It was great.
Sam
pacalo
(24,721 posts)So good to see you!
I haven't watched any tv yet tonight, but I dvr'ed it for later. If you were happy with the way the segment went, then I'm really looking forward to seeing it.
I'm really hoping he'll get a show on HBO. It's easier to subscribe for HBO than it is getting the CurrentTV network on cable.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Which means you start off with low budgets. He was still getting paid more money than anyone else at the station,including Cenk.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Keith knew that Current had half the budget of MSNBC. Yes, the production was cheap, but he was still getting paid, paid better than anyone else. He also knew that Current needed to have help as it was the last safe place for news, as, sorry to say, even Rachel maddow is one corporate death warrant away from being off the air.
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)That's a little beyond the "startup" stage. And, if Current couldn't afford to pay Keith what they did, they shouldn't have offered and signed the contract.
I worked hard to try to find a way to watch it. It isn't listed on many cable networks and I had trouble even finding a way to watch it on Roku (which should have been very, very easy for The Current to set up)
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)New hope rose at Current--now I feel worse about Current, it feels like he's crossed his last bridge, and set it afire in his wake.
Yea, there were a few problems, I saw them. But I still delighted when he'd make one of his very rare appearances. He seemed to be getting it together a bit at the end. More often than not, he'd be there, and I would delight. He's brilliant. No doubt, his ego was a problem, he lost two parents, he should probably take a long time off, live on the money he's earned, and think about what he's done.
Clearly the guy is a genius. He lives in a higher level, one that barely touches normal people. It makes him unaware of the lower people, and somehow it keeps him from realizing that others will only strive to hit his level--they'll miss a queue once and a while, an old light might pop once and a while, or a plug get kicked out. Keith could have persevered, he could've cared more about making it work than bitching, he could have stuck it out for fans like me, and his other supporters in this thread.
Sorry, but I think for the next few years anyway, he's done--and maybe that is what he wanted. I don't know if it's true or not, but he supposedly got one of his drivers fired for "talking to him." Come on! Really? As good as a guy is, there is a line, and he's danced well over it.
So I'll miss him being on, there will be a hole once again in my political shows. But I've got to hang this one on him. He got free reign, far more important than a few trivial problems that would have slowly, over time, improved. He's got to own this one, get some therapy, and fix himself. He's too good to lose, so I hope he gets well, and if he's not doing this for his viewers, then I'm not real concerned with his return.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Therapy. You are the common denominator. You are a great commentator with an ego the size of the Goodyear blimp.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)perhaps they will find someone who will grow the network and be a team player instead of being in it for himself.
It was just plain, bad form for him to go on Letterman and show his ass like that. No class whatsoever.
just go do baseball and be done with it.
patricia92243
(12,591 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)He's had problems with every network he worked at: ESPN, FOX, MSNBC and now Current.
He always blames everyone else, but apparently he's not a team player and a pain to work with. As someone at ESPN said after Olbermann left, "he doesn't burn bridges, he napalms them".
http://dismalpoliticaleconomist.blogspot.com/2012/04/keith-olbermann-burns-another-bridge.html
grantcart
(53,061 posts)And he is playing on a team sport.
He may be the Satchel Page of TV commentators, but without the humor.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)entertainer and a raving asshole. It is possible to be all of those things.
soleft
(18,537 posts)They can't all be idiots. He argues with everyone.
Yavin4
(35,421 posts)More likely, he will wind up on RT where Thom Hartmann has a show. RT is funded out of Russia so they have the cash, and he'd fit right in. They take a strong anti-establishment bent. They're as hard on Obama as they are on the Republicans.