WARREN BUFFETT: 'Hillary Is Going To Win ... I Will Bet Money On It'

[hue]

Source: BUSINESS INSIDER

Billionaire investor Warren Buffett made a bold prediction about the 2016 presidential race at Fortune's "The Most Powerful Women" summit in California on Tuesday.

Buffett said, "Hillary is going to run." Furthermore, he added that he's positive she will make it to the White House.

"Hillary is going to win," Buffett said, adding, "I will bet money on it, I don't do that easily."

Buffett was less willing to predict who might run against Clinton.

"Her opponent will be whoever wins the Republican primary and there's going to be a lot of people who want to do it," said Buffett.




Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-hillary-is-going-to-win-2014-10

[liberal N proud]

1. Alright then, I guess that settles that.

Hope she runs if she is going to win.

[MADem]

2. I hope he's right. nt

[TwilightGardener]

3. I hope he's wrong. I hope we get someone better.

[Veilex]

6. +1

[VanillaRhapsody]

57. -1

[Veilex]

71. ...

Well aren't you being childish today.

[avaistheone1]

7. We clearly need someone much better.

[peacebird]

51. [phone]

[SoapBox]

15. +100

[R.Quinn]

21. +1000

[City Lights]

45. Me too! nt

[VanillaRhapsody]

56. Are you committed to voting for whomever wins the Primary?

Including Hillary?

[Nihil]

77. Are you committed to bullying anyone who doesn't fawn over your beloved leader?

The November elections are actually more important than the anointing of the
next dynasty yet the Hillary SA seem to be already mobilised to stamp out
any dissent with the "still undecided" heroine of their dreams ...

[VanillaRhapsody]

78. if they are not supporting a Democrat...

Are you committed to vote for whomever wins the Democratic Primary....including Hillary Clinton?

[Nihil]

83. Really? You are the self-appointed purity police this time around?

I can honestly say that no, I am not "committed to vote for whomever wins the Democratic Primary....including Hillary Clinton".

I would be very intrigued to see how you intend to change that ...

[VanillaRhapsody]

85. Did you miss the title of this website?

And its mission statement that exlplicitely says ..for the purpose of electing Democrats....sooooo

Again I ask are you committed to voting for the winner of the Democratic Primary election?

[Nihil]

88. No but I do enjoy seeing blinkered cheerleaders frothing at the mouth.

> Again I ask are you committed to voting for the winner of the Democratic Primary election?

And - again - I answer you:
>> I can honestly say that no, I am not "committed to vote for whomever wins the Democratic Primary....including Hillary Clinton".
>> I would be very intrigued to see how you intend to change that ...

Did you forget to read the contents of my post in your eagerness to "exlplicitely" respond?

Or did you simply charge straight onto the next stage of your script without
actually thinking why I said it?

Hint:
>> I would be very intrigued to see how you intend to change that ...



Or maybe you are just the sort of person who is oblivious to the fact that they are
barking up the wrong tree altogether ...?

[VanillaRhapsody]

89. you are on Democratic underground

Did you think that meant forum to kick them?

[Nihil]

90. I've answered your pointlessly repeated questions so far. Your turn.

So far I've had two implicit answers but nothing actually stated.

Q: Are you committed to bullying anyone who doesn't fawn over your beloved leader?
A: Apparently yes "if they are not supporting a Democrat"


Q: You are the self-appointed purity police this time around?
A: Apparently yes again.


Q: Did you forget to read the contents of my post in your eagerness
to "exlplicitely" respond?

(No answer)


Q: Or did you simply charge straight onto the next stage of your script
without actually thinking why I said it?

(No answer)


Q: Or maybe you are just the sort of person who is oblivious to the fact
that they are barking up the wrong tree altogether ...?

(No answer)

[VanillaRhapsody]

91. I support the Democratic Primary winner

Do you?

I am not putting words into your mouth....wonder why you cannot answer that simple question?

[Nihil]

94. Read .83 & .88

> wonder why you cannot answer that simple question?

I have answered you clearly and unambiguously on two previous occasions.
I wonder why you are persisting in your fiction that I have not done so?

I'm confident that every other reader of this thread would not need to ask the
question a second time, much less a third or fourth.

The fact that you have either not read them or are pretending to have not read them
is your problem but it is also symptomatic of the precise lock-step bullying mentality
that I was protesting in my first reply in this thread.

Take off your blinkers and stop trolling.

[VanillaRhapsody]

95. Good to know...HOWEVER.....A DEMOCRAT who IS supporting WHOEVER wins the Democratic

PRIMARY on Democratic Underground....is NOT the one trolling my friend!

[Scuba]

80. + another

[closeupready]

4. And Dewey defeated Truman - said so in the paper.

And they were reporting FACTS as opposed to educated guesses.

(Yes, that's )

[Man from Pickens]

5. Guess the billionaires have decided

no need for the plebes to vote, then

[Cleita]

35. My thoughts exactly. eom

[candelista]

8. I wouldn't bet on it.

She has high negatives. She would have a tough race against a moderate Republican.

[OKNancy]

12. where did you get that?

Everything I've read says that she is doing just fine, especially considering the political climate we have today.
DU is not Democrats. The public at large, as last I read said only 37% would not consider voting for her.

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http://pollingreport.com/hrc.htm

[LittleGirl]

14. This DUer will not vote for her

Sorry. Not going to do it. I'll vote for Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. Actually, they would be my dream team.

[OKNancy]

16. you are free to do so - if either actually run

What will you do in the general election? stay home?

[rhett o rick]

30. Why do some think that there are only two choices, vote HRC or stay home.

Most on the left will go to the polls and vote, they always do. There are lots of important races besides just the presidency. As far as voting for HRC in the General, some on the Left might just write in a real Democrat as a statement against the manipulation of the oligarchs that own the Democratic Party Machine and will install HRC as the Democratic candidate. They will be thrilled for her victory. Goldman-Sachs has already bought the party favors.

I have heard some on the Left say, "HRC, betray us once, shame on you, betray us......well you better not betray us again."

[VanillaRhapsody]

87. You are welcome to vote Third party if you want

Just means you are no longer a Democrat!

[LittleGirl]

44. actually, we are

leaving the country so our absentee ballots won't matter anyway. I'm packing up now. We'll have to vote absentee for this election as well.

[VanillaRhapsody]

86. exactly....tired of the namby pamby critics of

The Democrats thinking they run DU!

[SoapBox]

19. Uhmmmm...I don't think so.

The poll was of 1,012 adults, with a +\- of 3%.

That is a small sampling. Of all registered voters, I'll lay odds her "favorable" rating for President, will not win her the position.

[roguevalley]

25. DU is democrats. If you want to castigate opinion here be more specific.

We can do better.

[candelista]

38. Same place as you.

"Everything I read."

[Tarheel_Dem]

52. "DU is not Democrats". This needs to be repeated early & often.

[Historic NY]

32. Define moderate Republican.....

because the clowns lining up are not.

[candelista]

40. They will all run toward the center in the General Election.

So will the Democratic candidate(s).

[Historic NY]

43. Yeah okay....

they will do the same thing as the last time try to out crazy each other in the primary side show.

[mwooldri]

64. A definition of a moderate Republican? IMO? Barack Obama?

Obamacare? Something devised by a conservative outfit called the Heritage Foundation ... I think. Also implemented at the state level by a Republican governor who as a President vowed he'd scrap it.

If someone like Barack Obama came along in the Democratic primaries, Hillary may end up with the same fate. I'd say if Elizabeth Warren decides to run then Mrs. Clinton would have a challenge on her hands. But of course, Ms. Warren isn't running.

[Scuba]

81. First cousin to a unicorn.

[rustbeltvoice]

48. ????"moderate Republican"?????

They are extinct.

In 1964 the Republicans ran Goldwater. Goldwater was then an extreme conservative, and had a landslide loss, and only won a few states because Johnson signed a Voting Act. To-day, Goldwater would be the most liberal Republican in existence.

The division between Republicans is that of very conservative and insane.

[Historic NY]

53. All the moderate Republicans I knew are looking at roots....

even ones that were aren't any more, they have adopted to keep their jobs.

[candelista]

62. I have no idea what you mean.

The Republican candidate will be a moderate in today's sense of the word, "moderate," i.e., like Obama, who said himself that that's what he would have been called in the 1980s. Cliquez ici:

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s

[candelista]

61. Nonsense.

"Moderate" is obviously a relative term. Today, Mitt Romney is a moderate Republican. We have his health care plan.

[rustbeltvoice]

70. No, that is an abuse of language to distort.

[VanillaRhapsody]

58. If here negatives were so high they couldn't be overcome...she wouldn't still be here

the fact that they COULDN'T use her negatives against her successfully is the REASON she is still here!

[candelista]

60. Still where?

Still a hopeful? All that takes is hope.

[Dawgs]

9. Oh shit!!

[Enrique]

10. wow this this is some serious political insight

"Her opponent will be whoever wins the Republican primary and there's going to be a lot of people who want to do it," said Buffett.

[rhett o rick]

31. The Republican candidate will be some clown the oligarchs will run to make the Democrats vote

for HRC. It's called manipulation.

[VanillaRhapsody]

59. hahahahahahahsahahahahahahahaha

is THAT going to be your sour grapes answer when she wins?

[Amimnoch]

11. Kind of early for this kind of stuff imo.

She was my second choice out of the starting gate in 2008 (Kucinich was my first).
When Kucinich dropped out, she became my first choice.
When she conceded to President Obama, I threw my support in for him.

Personally, I'll reserve my support until I at least SEE who is running for 2016 before throwing in with anyone, but I don't think she'd be a bad choice at all. Yes, some of her history isn't stellar to todays issues, but most of the arguments I've seen against her, she was doing what was the right thing at that particular time, in that particular environment.

[Shemp Howard]

18. Kucinich, yes. Hillary, no.

I too supported Kucinich back in 2008. I pretty much knew just what Kucinich stood for. And he voted against the 2002 Iraqi war resolution, which was a big plus for me.

But Hillary...I really have no idea what she stands for. I know what she says here and there, but what are her core principles? Hillary says she is for the working class, yet she accepts huge speaking fees from corporations. I just can't figure her out.

[Thinkingabout]

29. Let me help you in determining where Hillary stands on the issues

http://ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm

gives you the answers. She was a strong advocate for civil rights in her college days and has remained a strong advocate against violence against women plus many other issues. She is for increasing the minimum wages. This could go on and on.

[rhett o rick]

36. That's wonderful, but we desperately need to save the middle class from bankruptcy.

We need a candidate that supports civil rights AND supports reversing the widening wealth gap.

[Thinkingabout]

42. I am glad you brought this subject up, so here is your answer.

•Government action to tackle recession, not tax cuts. (Feb 2008)
•The economy is not working for middle class families. (Jan 2008)
•We need immediate relief for home heating & housing crisis. (Jan 2008)
•No evidence as to how Obama would pay for new programs. (Jan 2008)
•Foreclosure moratorium mitigates agony; doesn’t prolong it. (Jan 2008)
•90-day moratorium on foreclosures; freeze interest rates. (Jan 2008)
•Call for a moratorium on housing foreclosures for 90 days. (Jan 2008)
•Freeze mortgage interest rates for five years. (Jan 2008)
•Look back to 1990s to see how I’d be fiscally responsible. (Dec 2007)
•Help people facing foreclosure; don’t just bail-out banks. (Aug 2007)
•Balanced budget replaced with rising costs & falling wages. (Jun 2007)
•2000: Eight years of a great economy is not enough. (Jan 2007)
•Last six years were challenging; let’s try a new direction. (Oct 2006)
•Co-sponsored bills totaling $502B in spending thru 2005. (Oct 2006)
•Use tax dollars to upgrade infrastructure, not for stadium. (Oct 2000)
•Pay down debt & cut taxes within balanced budget. (Sep 2000)
•Stimulate upstate economy by more local decision-making. (Sep 2000)
•Supports Niagara casino, but prefers job creation strategy. (Sep 2000)
•Protect next generation by paying off national debt. (Aug 2000)
•We have outlived the usefulness of Bretton Woods. (Jun 1999)
•The economy creates consumers but cannot create citizens. (Jun 1999)
•Invest in people instead of “smokestack chasing”. (Feb 1997)
Voting Record

•Voted to limit credit card interest to 30%. (Jan 2008)
•FactCheck: Consistently against making bankruptcy stricter. (Jan 2008)
•2005 bankruptcy bill was by big credit cards & lenders. (Jan 2008)
•Voted YES on $60B stimulus package for jobs, infrastructure, & energy. (Sep 2008)
•Voted NO on paying down federal debt by rating programs' effectiveness. (Mar 2007)
•Voted NO on $40B in reduced federal overall spending. (Dec 2005)
•Require full disclosure about subprime mortgages. (Dec 2007)
•Reform mortgage rules to prevent foreclosure & bankruptcy. (Feb 2008)

BTW, this is Hillary on the issues.

[rhett o rick]

54. Well that is a long list, mostly of speeches. How can you believe her after her 2002 vote

for authorization to give the Dim-Son authorization to invade Iraq? She betrayed America as well as Iraq. And can you say she doesn't have close ties to Wall Street?

[Thinkingabout]

65. Are you saying the votes she made during her time in the Senate were speeches? Never heard it put

that way before. Are you having a hard time accepting her experience and accomplishments?

[rhett o rick]

66. You certainly have a way with words. "Are you saying the votes she made during her time in the

Senate were speeches?" Hell no, why would you even ask that? I said the list you gave only included a few votes and listed mostly something else which I guess are speeches. LIke: "We need immediate relief for home heating & housing crisis." and "Look back to 1990s to see how I’d be fiscally responsible." what the hell are those?

The bottom line is that she is very connected with Wall Street especially Goldman-Sachs. I do not see her jeopardizing that cash cow to help average people. Either you don't care to help average people or you some how think she is the best we can get. In either way she has zero integrity. She has zero integrity. She betrayed the people to give George Bush authority to kill Iraqi's.

Her vote to authorize Dim-Son to kill Iraqi's, against the wishes of most of the world, were either because 1. Dim-Son fooled her, 2. She like the idea of killing Iraqi's and destroying the American economy, or 3. She was afraid she'd look bad if she stood her ground and voted Democratic Principles. I don't care which one you choose, we can do sooooo much better.

[Thinkingabout]

67. You may have replied to the wrong post,

your reply was

"Well that is a long list, mostly of speeches."

I supplied you her stand on the issues and her votes, speeches are not votes and votes differ from speeches. I understand you may not like Hillary for her connections with Wall Street but what makes you happy with Elizabeth Warren's connections with Wall Street? I do not agree with the vote EW made recently but I do not use it to make my decision of whether I would back her or not in an election.

[rhett o rick]

68. Good grief. You supplied me with a list. The list included some strange things that didn't say much

like, "Look back to 1990s to see how I’d be fiscally responsible." and "Call for a moratorium on housing foreclosures for 90 days." and on and on. What are those? They aren't "stands". Are they even quotes? They could be something she said over tea or something you wrote. And here's one: "Look back to 1990s to see how I’d be fiscally responsible." What the hell does that even mean?

She is beholden to Wall Street and especially Goldman-Sachs. She has zero integrity as she proved when she betrayed DEMOCRATS and choose to be on the side with George Bush and Dick Cheney. She choose those bastards to align with. She has blood on her hands and she will have a hard time when she meets her maker. Why would you ever, ever trust her?

I was in tears in 2002 when Democrats supplicated themselves before George Bush and authorized him to invade Iraq which lead to the destruction of Iraq and our democracy. Those Democrats betrayed us and can not be forgiven. They all have blood on their hands.

[Thinkingabout]

69. Do you like Elizabeth Warren's connections to Wall Street?

I supplied you Hillary's stand on points you think EW has and you may not like the list being so long but Hillary has been fighting for lower income people for years. If you continue to bring up the vote Hillary made in 2002 after buildings in the state she represented were blown up then you will have to hear about Elizabeth Warren's failure to vote to take action in the middle east in the recent weeks. She had the opportunity to be briefed in a intelligence briefing as a member of the Senate, if she did not attend or chose to ignore the information she received. I disagree with her NO vote, I feel as if she has betrayed not only Democrats but citizens of the US and she will not be forgiven. Future beheadings and killing of Americans and damage to American facilities will be on her hands.

[rhett o rick]

72. Your rationalization for HRC bowing down to Bushy and the idiots in the Republican Party is not

just sad but idiotic. Yes buildings were blown up BUT NOT BY IRAQ. She knew that. We Democrats were counting on her and the other Democrats to bring reason to the table. But no, they groveled before Bush, the Dim-Son, and have killed tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi children and our democracy.

Her decision BETRAYED not only her constituents, but also all Democrats, all Americans esp. the troops that have died and been wounded, and millions of Iraqi's.

But I can see by your post that killing Muslims is a high priority even though we could use that money to save American children from going to bed hungry. But apparently killing Muslims is more important.

And your list is a joke. Most of the items on the list are completely nonsensical. Here's one: "Last six years were challenging; let’s try a new direction." Now there is a stand.

[Thinkingabout]

76. Just who in the hell is EW bowing to with her vote, ISIS.

When given the opportunity to take a stand on ISIS, she was unable to, it makes me doubt her ability to take proper action when needed. Her vote was the same as Ted Cruz, is she bowing to Ted?

Do I like war, hell no, but sometimes when Muslims are killing Muslims and others you have to have a reaction, as you can see I am not happy with Muslims killing other Muslims or others who does not conform to their seventh century beliefs, radicals are killing peaceful Muslims, kidnapping women and children, raping for their pleasure. And you think this is right and peaceful?

[groundloop]

20. Thank you for some sanity on this issue

Hillary is not my first choice, in fact I'll probably donate, support, and maybe even volunteer for some other candidate once I see who's running. But I'll damned sure be behind her in the general election if she's our nominee. IMO it would be insane to sit out the election and allow the republican candidate to waltz in.

[rhett o rick]

55. If the non-conservatives of our party want to elect someone other than the Wall Street

favorite we must start now. The middle class will not survive another eight years of Conservative rule.

[hedgehog]

74. " I'll reserve my support until I at least SEE who is running for 2016"

What an amazing concept!

[Android3.14]

13. Must mean he saw the receipt

For the bought-and-paid-for primaries.

[TeamPooka]

17. Every time she runs for President people say she's unbeatable. Someday they might be right. nt

[cosmicone]

22. Sometimes I wonder what board I am on

Hillary was a republican growing up and became a staunch democrat. She has always helped democratic causes and issues like gun control, a woman's right to choose, universal health care, minimum wage increase, education and immigration.

We have an historic opportunity to elect the first woman as president in Hillary.

However, looking at the posts here and seeing the hatred for her, I feel like I'm on free republic.

We all have first choices -- I'd love to see myself in the white house before anyone else for example -- but, the harsh reality is that I am not electable.

Are we so blinded by ideology that we would support ideologically extreme and unelectable candidates just to feel good? If that is so, we have become the left-wing version of the tea party. Winning is not important but holding inflexible and non-negotiable positions is what is important while harboring a pipe dream that our candidates would do better only if they were more extreme on our side.

Wake up and smell the coffee. I admire Senator Bernie Sanders and have a great deal of respect for him. However, he will only carry VT, CA and MA for sure. He will struggle everywhere else, labeled a communist and sunk.

Senator Elizabeth Warren is amazing and fantastic as a senator. However, she was a republican until 1997 - 1997! She also couldn't carry any states outside New England and California and perhaps NY.

Hillary is manifestly electable because a) she has name recognition, b) all her negatives have been old, tired news and won't make it to front page news anymore AND c) she will attract independent and republican women in droves. (Not the nutty kind but moderate, fiscally conservative republican women will vote for Hillary.)

We should stop this devolution to a democratic version of the tea party.

[roguevalley]

27. again, you use hatred for people who disagree and find her distasteful

how about everyone decide that this isn't high school and bieberisms like haters and hatred just get dropped. Use something that makes you sound serious and grown up. There are SERIOUS issues with her and we are free to discuss and disagree with them and her even if we aren't billionaires. Warren buffet got his money eating other people. He didn't become a zillionaire by being a nice guy. He has a great PR firm to make everyone think otherwise but in the end he's a guy who clawed and killed other people and their businesses to become number one.

I don't give a flying fuck about what a billionaire wants. Just me. Just saying. IMHO

[Thinkingabout]

33. Could the hate stop everywhere, there has been lots of hate towards Hillary on DU, I say to the

candidates who wants to jump into the race do so, bring their experience and issues they are concerned with, I would bet many are the same, but I might add knowledge of the world will be very important in the future years, not just for 8-10 years. We are not isolated anymore, we get 24 news and from many points in the world.

[stupidicus]

47. indeed

it's almost like they think that the "hater" charge is gonna result in a positive change in those they designate thusly or something.

WHat they don't seem to realize, is that kinda stuff is really the kinda stuff self-fulfilling prophecies are made of. Being labeled so negatively that way could make the difference in many between holding their nose and voting for her, and saying "screw it, why should I help those that see me as the enemy?"...

It's also how many avoid the tough job of actually defending her more egregious povs and policy support that some find extremely objectionable as well.

[roguevalley]

73. + a zillion

[SamKnause]

23. She will not be getting my vote.

No one has paid me any money for my vote.

No one has paid me any money not to vote.

Maybe Buffett knows something the rest of us are not privy to.

Maybe Buffett is not aware that millions upon millions of voters are sick of the status quo.

[RufusTFirefly]

24. If so, why waste time and money with pesky elections?

Think of all the money the 1 percent would save.

It would simply make official what many have suspected for quite some time -- not that President-elect Hillary Clinton will win, but that our elections are rigged -- totally bought and paid for.

[DFW]

26. Last I heard.........

You have to announce as a candidate in order to run

You have to run to get the nomination

You have to win the election to become president (unless your name is Bush).

I will not get worked up into a frenzy over someone whose candidacy is purely a matter of speculation and media hype at this point. If and when Hillary (or anyone else) announces a serious try for the Democratic nomination, I'll give a listen. Just because Wolf Blitzer (or even Warren Buffett) says so, I'm not going to drop everything and go into a frenzy over it.

[FBaggins]

28. I'd be willing to take that bet

The stakes are 1% of our respective net worth figures.

[Cleita]

34. Buffett only "gambles" on pretty sure bets.

Could it be he's pretty sure the election has already been decided on?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

37. I'm holding out for a Sultun of Brunei prediction.

[sadoldgirl]

39. If and I say only if

she runs and the left ( the real democratic base) stays home, can she win?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

41. Interesting how much he supports Hillary Clinton, but has abandoned Obama because...

...he wasn't liberal enough.






(Actually, it's NOT interesting at all.)

[blkmusclmachine]

46. Change You CAN'T Believe In!

[Gothmog]

49. I have met Buffett

He is a very smart and nice person in real life

[Tarheel_Dem]

50. He knows of what he speaks. n/t

[JoeyT]

63. Well if the billionaires like her,

who are we peasants to disagree?

[GeorgeGist]

75. Yay for the greedster.

[DonCoquixote]

79. when a billionaire bets

It is really often an investment, as he/she knows they can flip the dice.

[Scuba]

82. Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL - she's the conservative's wet dream.

[Orsino]

84. Yes, she is.

For better and worse.

[True Blue Door]

92. She can't win the election if she doesn't win the primary.

And if we can't find someone better to nominate than Madame Nixon, then we would deserve her.

[Beacool]

93. This place never changes.

It warms the cockles of my heart to read the usual vitriol. It only confirms that that I'm not missing anything.