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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 09:57 PM Oct 2014

U.S. Commander Does Abrupt About-Face On American Troops’ Contact With Ebola Patients

Source: McClatchy

Tuesday, Oct. 07, 2014
By James Rosen
McClatchy Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON In less than four hours, the top U.S. commander in Africa reversed himself Tuesday on the controversial question of whether American military personnel dispatched there will have direct contact with Ebola victims.

At 3:30 p.m., the Pentagon moved a rare “correction for the record” from an 11:30 a.m. briefing by Gen. David M. Rodriguez, head of the U.S. Africa Command.

“In response to comments I made today about U.S. military personnel potentially coming in direct contact with Ebola-infected individuals, specific to lab testing, I want to clarify my remarks,” Rodriguez said in an updated statement.

“U.S. military personnel working in the labs are not interacting with patients, only samples,” he said. “The testing labs are manned by highly skilled and trained personnel from the U.S. Naval Medical Research Center.”

That statement directly contradicted what Rodriguez had said at the earlier briefing.

Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/07/6182359/us-commander-does-abrupt-about.html?rh=1

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U.S. Commander Does Abrupt About-Face On American Troops’ Contact With Ebola Patients (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2014 OP
The military has a problem knowing what to do when it doesn't involve a military weapon. LiberalFighter Oct 2014 #1
I don't think that is true Marrah_G Oct 2014 #4
I tend to agree! gopiscrap Oct 2014 #6
Well since their job AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #7
My baby sis commanded an elite medical unit Mojorabbit Oct 2014 #20
We' are very good tazkcmo Oct 2014 #14
Good. thank you, Gen Rodriquez.. wishing you all the best in your endeavors with Ebola in Africa. Cha Oct 2014 #2
It would be pretty weird for professionals in a lab to need to have direct contact TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #3
That's what I got out of the article also Marrah_G Oct 2014 #5
True AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #8
well... TheVisitor Oct 2014 #10
The Intel AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #11
It Will Get Ugly ProgressiveJarhead Oct 2014 #12
I know AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #13
Thank you for the clarification on what these units do. There is much much more than just Hestia Oct 2014 #21
Sounds to me... TheVisitor Oct 2014 #9
What's the difference? Coming into contact with the actual people or their samples? nt snappyturtle Oct 2014 #15
A HUGE difference.. sendero Oct 2014 #16
Thank you for your answer. It makes sense as long as the samples are snappyturtle Oct 2014 #17
Exactly.. sendero Oct 2014 #18
True. nt snappyturtle Oct 2014 #19
 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
7. Well since their job
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:51 PM
Oct 2014

is to violently kill people and break things, of course they don't. Their job is to destroy the enemy and his will to fight, not wage humanitarian war against communicable diseases. But what do I know, I am a retired twenty year vet and 5 time combat deployment veteran (well 5 combat deployments to Iraq, and 1 to Bosnia and 1 to Kosovo back in the 1990's/Early 2000's)

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
20. My baby sis commanded an elite medical unit
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:25 AM
Oct 2014

that would drop in anywhere and put up field hospitals. We have a lot of well trained medical personnel in the services with lots of experience setting up in less than ideal circumstances.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. It would be pretty weird for professionals in a lab to need to have direct contact
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:09 PM
Oct 2014

with patients, unless there's some unusual situation going on. He simply misspoke in answer to a press question, and corrected it.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
8. True
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:53 PM
Oct 2014

But the VAST majority of the soldiers going are not lab technicians. Infantry soldiers, Rangers and Intelligence soldiers at the 101st CP, MP's, Engineers and Civil Affairs at their respective units, so YES at some point direct contact with infected locals is HIGHLY likely.

TheVisitor

(173 posts)
10. well...
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:57 PM
Oct 2014

MPs are a given, seeing as Africa doesn't have the best track record for peacefulness... also explains the rangers and IS folk...
they brought security in to protect them mainly while they are building places for other people to effectively treat people for Ebola... not necessarily getting into direct contact with anyone infected, but these people are primarily going to build treatment centers... hence the engineers...

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
11. The Intel
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 11:06 PM
Oct 2014

folks will include HUMINT folks who will be on THT's (Tactical Humint Teams), in other words the HUMINT people, (several dozen) will be out and about talking to locals all day long everyday... that is their job, talk to locals, arrange sources, identify threats, etc. Additionally the G-4 (Logistics) people at the Div CP will need to interface with locals everyday to secure certain foods (usually local produce, far cheaper to buy on the local economy), certain local supplies, as well as buy any Class IX items that can be more quickly purchased on the economy versus shipping them to Africa from the US. Additionally the Civil Affairs people will be setting up village engagements to ensure that the villages closest to the FOB's or hospitals are secured and remain pacified with civil works projects, etc. Additionally the MP's will have daily contact, and we haven't even gotten to the Signals Retrans teams who will be out in the boonies on the hills providing line of sight for the signals communications. Of that number going to Africa, at least 10-20% will be out among the locals EVERYDAY. That is how a mission of this nature works. I was in Bosnia, Kosovo and the invasion of Iraq in 2003, each time we enter a new battlespace, these things I listed are the BARE MINIMUMS for a Command Staff.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
13. I know
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 11:28 PM
Oct 2014

I am stunned we are sending some of these units.......I can't imagine a worse collection of units for this mission than this. The Medical Branch people I understand, the other Army units? I cannot comprehend what they are thinking.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
21. Thank you for the clarification on what these units do. There is much much more than just
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 10:24 AM
Oct 2014

sending in Medical Teams from your post.

FYI - Liberia considers itself the 51st State. The country was started by freemen/freewomen from the US who immigrated and who purposefully founded the capital - Monrovia - named after James Monroe. We have let them down time and again - it is fantastic that we can go and help them when it is needed.

TheVisitor

(173 posts)
9. Sounds to me...
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:53 PM
Oct 2014

Like he got his ass handed to him for making an irresponsible comment... Sounds like something the fear-factory right wing would've encouraged him to say...

sendero

(28,552 posts)
16. A HUGE difference..
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:43 AM
Oct 2014

... samples don't cough, samples don't sneeze, samples don't vomit, samples don't sweat.

The FACT is, despite all of the SCIENCE people telling us that they understand the transmission modes of this virus, which they clearly do not or there wouldn't be scads of health workers who followed all specified precautions now infected with ebola, that while this virus is not transmitted "airborne" in the conventional sense of the word if you get an aerosol droplet of spittle from an infected person who coughed you are at risk.

If you touch a wall that was touched by an infected person hours ago you are at risk.

Working with ebola patients requires RIGOROUS adherence to sanitation procedures, my gratitude and admiration goes out to everyone caring for these people.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
17. Thank you for your answer. It makes sense as long as the samples are
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:05 AM
Oct 2014

properly handled and there are zero lab 'accidents'.

I will say that I find employing soldiers for the good does more for our defense and safety than employing them to kill. imho

sendero

(28,552 posts)
18. Exactly..
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:06 AM
Oct 2014

.... and it is much easier to avoid an accident with a petri dish than with a living human being.

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