(SCOTUS) Ruling: No same-day registration in NC election
Source: News Observer
RALEIGH, N.C. Same-day registration won't be allowed during early voting in North Carolina and Election Day ballots cast in the wrong precinct won't be counted this fall after the U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday blocked a ruling that had set aside parts of a 2013 election law.
A majority on the nation's highest court agreed to halt the ruling of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Two justices dissented.
The decision means the full law will remain enforced while the state and civil rights groups that challenged the law prepare for trial next summer. The full law was enforced during the May primary as well.
Early voting begins Oct. 23 and the registration deadline remains Friday, as originally planned.
Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/08/4218024_us-supreme-court-sides-with-nc.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy
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Historic NY
(37,449 posts)They keep changing the play book, unfortunately voters will procrastinate and they expect to take advantage of that.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)That means one of Obama's picks went with the bought and paid for crowd! Obama picked corporate Justices, not necessarily liberal ones. Probably another reason why R.B.G. will not retire!
Keefer
(713 posts)From the article:
"The court's order was unsigned, as it typically is in these situations. Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented, saying they would have left the appellate ruling in place. It is unclear how the other seven justices came down on the matter, other than that at least five formed a majority and voted in North Carolina's favor."
http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/10/08/4218024_us-supreme-court-sides-with-nc.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy
dragonlady
(3,577 posts)You took the time to look into the facts rather than jumping to conclusions. I think it's more likely than not that Justice Kagan is against this decision but declined to take the time to write a separate dissent. Right now she has the request for stay of Wisconsin's voter ID law before her and we in Wisconsin would like her to focus on that.
former9thward
(31,981 posts)All she had to do is sign the dissent that was made.
still_one
(92,136 posts)since the country voted for bush junior junior twice, the country has deserved everything they have gotten.
In most other Democratic countries the voting turnout is 80%, here we are lucky to get 25%.
It is pathetic.
As far as voting irregularities or forces trying to prevent people from voting, where in the hell have the Democrats been on this. Since 2000 we knew we had a problem, still nothing adequate has been done.
If we retain the Senate, it won't have anything to do with the Democrat's expensive consultants, but just plain luck
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)This is 'Murica.
christx30
(6,241 posts)to register for the November 4th election. We had months of warning. There was a huge effort on behalf of both sides to register as many people as possible. I know Battleground Texas got 2000+ on the last day in Austin alone. The local sanwhich chain let voter registrars set up outside their shops to get as many people as possible. Local radio stations were encouraging everyone to get there and register.
But, yes, I've been registered since June. Anyone that hasn't just isn't paying attention.
still_one
(92,136 posts)for that?
In this thread they are talking about not allowing same day voter registration as the election. To me that is NOT an issue of voter suppression. Voter suppression is if they reduce the number of voting machines at a precent that services many people. Voter suppression is not allowing early voting or absentee voting, but not allowing same day registration on election day is not.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)They always try to sand off every rough edge of a candidate and push them towards centrist-corporatism, safe business friendly positions, and big corporate donors.
Populism and progressive ideals are appealing when presented to the public.
still_one
(92,136 posts)Especially considering the compensation they got
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)With Gore they drove him to the right and pushed Liebermann on him to somehow placate the blue dogs in his party which actually alienated the base and made the democratic party seem feckess and disconnected. Had Gore chosen a better VP and ran a more populist he might have won.
Of course had the Democratic party been more progressive at the time we would be in a stronger position now.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)But exactly how many of us deserve everything we've gotten?
still_one
(92,136 posts)think Obama won? It was turnout
Orsino
(37,428 posts)still_one
(92,136 posts)Biblical story of Sodom and gomorrah, should the whole town be destroyed if innocents are there?
and there is no doubt the republicans who like feel the same way
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)the linked to article did not cite to the majority opinion to provide its rationale.
I guess I'll have to be friends with the google to find out the "reasoning." I suspect it will be that the states are given deference with respect to its election rules, unless proven to be discriminatory; and at least 3 Justices (I.e., Kagan and two others were unconvinced).
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)unless it means their guy won't get elected, see Bush v. Gore.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)by conservatives who had always been about "states rights". In the 2000 election they over-ruled the state's own laws on how ballots were counted. Conservatives loathed the 14th Amendment, until they saw a perverse way to use it to get their guy elected. If the roles in Bush v. Gore had been reversed, there is no way they would have ruled as they did.
To quote Vincent Bugliosi, no commie pinko liberal, but a respected Republican from back in the day when such things existed:
Now, in the equal protection cases I've seen, the aggrieved party, the one who is being harmed and discriminated against, almost invariably brings the action. But no Florida voter I'm aware of brought any action under the equal protection clause claiming he was disfranchised because of the different standards being employed. What happened here is that Bush leaped in and tried to profit from a hypothetical wrong inflicted on someone else. Even assuming Bush had this right, the very core of his petition to the Court was that he himself would be harmed by these different standards. But would he have? If we're to be governed by common sense, the answer is no. The reason is that just as with flipping a coin you end up in rather short order with as many heads as tails, there would be a "wash" here for both sides, i.e., there would be just as many Bush as Gore votes that would be counted in one county yet disqualified in the next. (Even if we were to assume, for the sake of argument, that the wash wouldn't end up exactly, 100 percent even, we'd still be dealing with the rule of de minimis non curat lex--the law does not concern itself with trifling matters.) So what harm to Bush was the Court so passionately trying to prevent by its ruling other than the real one: that he would be harmed by the truth as elicited from a full counting of the undervotes?
And if the Court's five-member majority was concerned not about Bush but the voters themselves, as they fervently claimed to be, then under what conceivable theory would they, in effect, tell these voters, "We're so concerned that some of you undervoters may lose your vote under the different Florida county standards that we're going to solve the problem by making sure that none of you undervoters have your votes counted"? Isn't this exactly what the Court did?
If the roles were reversed, and a NC Dem administration was pushing rules that were going to result in Republican voters being disenfranchised, you can be damned sure the Scalia Five would be on the scene to save they day, staying any onerous last minute changes.
It will be interesting to see how Kagan rules on Wisconsin's voting law.
The right cannot win without cheating and the fix is in.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)we are on the same side on this issue ... My point was while B v. G reversed the Florida's LAWS, the decision "showed deference to" the republican Secretary of State's (partisan and results-oriented) INTERPRETATION of those laws.
still_one
(92,136 posts)which is allowed from that by Florida law. Instead they delayed, and then only selected areas, which right or wrong was what they based part of their decision on
An immediate recount of the entire state might have avoided the SC Fiasco
Apart from that an anti trust lawyer was not the best representative for our side. Fire's advisors sucked also
47of74
(18,470 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)WTF?
Whatever happened to voting being a right?
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)The right will control the SCOTUS for the next 10-30 years. So, when the Dems refused to filibuster Alito and Roberts they handed the court over to right-wing extremists. At that point we lost it all, since SCOTUS will undo any reform they don't like.
And even if we retain control of the senate/presidency, the GOP is not going to let anyone without conservative credentials on the court.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)from voting!!! It's the only way these RW snakes can win. How very obvious and sad a tactic in our so-called democracy.