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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 06:19 PM Oct 2014

Two Pennsylvania lawmakers involved in shoot-out with would-be robber near Capitol

Source: Pittsburg Post-Gazette

HARRISBURG — A Pennsylvania state representative exchanged fire with a man who attempted to rob him blocks from the Capitol Tuesday night, according to the House Democratic leader's office.

Rep. Marty Flynn, D-Lackawanna, and Rep. Ryan Bizzarro, D-Erie, were walking home from the Capitol area a little before 11 p.m. when they were approached by a man who pointed a gun at them and demanded their wallets, according to a press release from the Democratic leader's office. A man across the street shouted instructions to the gunman, the statement said.

"Neither lawmaker handed over anything," the statement said. "Flynn drew a handgun that he is licensed to carry and exchanged shots with the first male, at which time both attackers and victims ran in different directions

Harrisburg police arrested four suspects, identified as Jamani Ellison, 17; Jyair Leonard, 15; Derek Anderson, 17; and Zha-quan McGhee, 15.



Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/news/state/2014/10/15/Two-lawmakers-involved-in-shoot-out-with-robbers-near-Capitol/stories/201410150166

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Two Pennsylvania lawmakers involved in shoot-out with would-be robber near Capitol (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Oct 2014 OP
"A man across the street shouted instructions to the gunman, the statement said." rocktivity Oct 2014 #1
Maybe reading a wiki article daleo Oct 2014 #10
How to rob someone: christx30 Oct 2014 #21
He Was Probably Not A Minor There To Make Sure They Didnt Pussy Out... Corey_Baker08 Oct 2014 #39
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #2
Summary execution of some petty-thief teenagers? Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #26
Armed robbery is not petty theft. Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #29
Either way it's moot since none of the people in the story Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #33
A tad bit over the top Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2014 #27
About time we Democrats stood our ground!!!!!!! OldRedneck Oct 2014 #3
I was happy to see that it was a Dem shooting back Johnyawl Oct 2014 #6
In PA sweetapogee Oct 2014 #18
Makes ya horny doesn't it? BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #7
Gak! My eyes! How gross! blue neen Oct 2014 #11
Yes, but it explains everything BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #13
Where Did You Get Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #15
You have lots of friends BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #32
ROFL!!!! Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #17
gunzzzzzzzzz BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #31
When I sent you that photo packman Oct 2014 #20
I thought that one was ok BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #22
That does it- packman Oct 2014 #23
Just be yourself BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #30
That last one was the best. /nt Ash_F Oct 2014 #34
How can you love one more than the other? BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #35
Stop posting photos whistler162 Oct 2014 #36
Good outcome, stupid move armed_and_liberal Oct 2014 #4
If someone is aiming a gun at your head, you would use pepper spray in them? Quackers Oct 2014 #8
You might as well just hand over whatever they want Islandurp Oct 2014 #9
Reality vs Fantasy armed_and_liberal Oct 2014 #14
Gun Control Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #16
Pepper spray Feral Child Oct 2014 #28
"Every gun enthusiast's fantasy" seveneyes Oct 2014 #37
I can't condemn them for this bigworld Oct 2014 #5
And possibly four more young black teenagers madville Oct 2014 #12
...with guns. brooklynite Oct 2014 #19
I think they were undercharged Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #38
"Rep. Ryan Bizzarro" Myrina Oct 2014 #24
how many times Enrique Oct 2014 #25

rocktivity

(44,571 posts)
1. "A man across the street shouted instructions to the gunman, the statement said."
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 07:18 PM
Oct 2014

Was he also holding a laptop and reading the instructions from one of those online university courses?


rocktivity

christx30

(6,241 posts)
21. How to rob someone:
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:53 AM
Oct 2014

Step one: approach your target.
Step two: point gun at your own foot (citation needed)

Response to Bacchus4.0 (Original post)

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
26. Summary execution of some petty-thief teenagers?
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:36 PM
Oct 2014

Yeah, that would have been real courageous of them...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
33. Either way it's moot since none of the people in the story
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 06:17 PM
Oct 2014

seem to be able to hit what they're aiming at...

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
3. About time we Democrats stood our ground!!!!!!!
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 07:58 PM
Oct 2014

I'm a raving liberal Democrat who owns enough firearms to fill TWO -- not one, but TWO -- gun safes. Glad to see I'm not alone.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
6. I was happy to see that it was a Dem shooting back
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:40 PM
Oct 2014

I don't have a safe full, but I do have my guns and I would be shooting back.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
11. Gak! My eyes! How gross!
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:50 PM
Oct 2014

You really should post a warning before you post that picture. I don't think I'm going to be able to sleep tonight.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
17. ROFL!!!!
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 07:08 AM
Oct 2014

You win! Every time I hear somebody say, "I have so many gunz . . . " I automatically think that these are the exact people that SHOULD NOT own a firearm.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
20. When I sent you that photo
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:48 AM
Oct 2014

I expected you to keep it private between us-now I have to reevalute our relationship.

armed_and_liberal

(246 posts)
4. Good outcome, stupid move
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:01 PM
Oct 2014

I understand and agree with defending themselves. but spraying a narrow residential street with gunfire that could injure bystanders or residents is irresponsible. Pepper spray would have achieved the same results in a more responsible manner.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
8. If someone is aiming a gun at your head, you would use pepper spray in them?
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:12 PM
Oct 2014

I guarantee they would shoot you. They should have done what they did or complied with the gunmens demands. Spraying him in the face with pepper spray is just giving him a reason to shoot you.

armed_and_liberal

(246 posts)
14. Reality vs Fantasy
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 12:11 AM
Oct 2014

Every gun enthusiast's fantasy is that while some perp is attempting to rob them they whip out their firearm and send said perp to the everlasting. This story proves that isn't what happens in the real world. You have two guys a few yards apart blasting away at each other and not hitting shit. That is reality.
Pepper spray doesn't need to be a head shot or in the critical mass it only has to be close enough to affect the target. Nobody is going to be shooting a gun while they can't see and are having trouble breathing.

 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
16. Gun Control
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 06:42 AM
Oct 2014

This points to the need for better gun control on the part of the Congressman. Standing a few feet from his target and unable to hit it? Sounds like he needed more range time. lol

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
28. Pepper spray
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 02:23 PM
Oct 2014

is as likely to cause a "reflex shot" as it is to mobilize an armed attacker. I don't think there's any single, simple answer to street violence, but spraying one of two armed attackers doesn't seem to be an appropriate response.

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
5. I can't condemn them for this
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:10 PM
Oct 2014

Downtown Harrisburg is not somewhere you normally want to be at 11 pm. Glad four criminals are off the street.

madville

(7,403 posts)
12. And possibly four more young black teenagers
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:51 PM
Oct 2014

Enter the criminal justice/prison cycle, very sad.

On a side note, why are they releasing the names of juveniles?

And they should probably delete their Facebook pages, Jyair Leonard's occupation is listed as "Boss at Fuckin Bitches and Gettin Money".

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
38. I think they were undercharged
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 09:03 PM
Oct 2014

So they dont have to much to complain about.

They should be chargred with attempted murder for firing a gun at somebody.

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