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Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:45 PM Oct 2014

National Nurses Union Calls on Obama to Protect Health Care Workers

Source: NBC News

The largest professional association of registered nurses in the United States is "deeply concerned" by the spread of Ebola, and is calling on President Obama to invoke his authority to protect health care workers.

"Without action at a very high level, how can we expect the nurses to do this on their own?" National Nurses United Executive Director RoseAnn DeMoro told reporters on Wednesday, hours after a second nurse who treated the first Ebola patient in the U.S. tested positive for the virus.

DeMoro said many of National Nurses United's 185,000 members have expressed a lack of training and preparedness for potential Ebola patients in their hospitals, and said the group has tried to bring the lack of readiness to the attention of the highest levels of government.

"We've been essentially ignored by the White House and the CDC," she said.

FULL story at link.

Video: http://on.today.com/1EXrkmT



Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/national-nurses-union-calls-obama-protect-health-care-workers-n226676

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National Nurses Union Calls on Obama to Protect Health Care Workers (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2014 OP
Barking up the wrong tree quakerboy Oct 2014 #1
Barking up the wrong tree by asking the President of the U.S.A. to be concerned... LovingA2andMI Oct 2014 #16
Protecting workers quakerboy Oct 2014 #18
There are only about a bazillion diseases skepticscott Oct 2014 #2
Name one ReRe Oct 2014 #3
Influenza skepticscott Oct 2014 #13
Flu, Hep C, DRTB, & MRSA.... ReRe Oct 2014 #14
Tens of thousands of people skepticscott Oct 2014 #23
You are aware of ebola's kill rate I hope? /nt Ash_F Oct 2014 #20
Flu is much more contagious-- Tweedy Oct 2014 #27
I have never heard of the flu with a 71 percent mortality rate. /nt Ash_F Oct 2014 #33
Aaaaand you got that Master of Public Health degree where?? kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #6
Way to blame the individual - TBF Oct 2014 #8
Yeah....right-- Yay, nurses... ballyhoo Oct 2014 #11
Hoping to start hearing specific requests, complaints are less effective in my opinion. DhhD Oct 2014 #4
The larger problem is austerity is the new fad in hospitals PuraVidaDreamin Oct 2014 #10
Thank you!! LovingA2andMI Oct 2014 #17
What you describe was true 40 years ago when I worked in a hospital. AdHocSolver Oct 2014 #19
Ages ago, I had a job disinfecting an OR. It was serious work and it took me more than 30 minutes Sognefjord Oct 2014 #22
True Story: eilen Oct 2014 #24
You should do an OP about this. Great information. greatlaurel Oct 2014 #32
They did that already. Were ignored, of course Ash_F Oct 2014 #21
How do Texans expect the federal government to help them? kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #5
I have friends that work at an airport. quadrature Oct 2014 #7
Nurses Union jalan48 Oct 2014 #9
I'd believe a union leader before any politician. Shemp Howard Oct 2014 #12
National Nurses United on Twitter riverwalker Oct 2014 #15
Absurd! Tweedy Oct 2014 #30
Americans call on Nurses Union to protect us against Nurses traveling with Ebola seveneyes Oct 2014 #25
Step 1: For-profit hospitals should be illegal. tridim Oct 2014 #26
Save us from our for profit employers!!! underpants Oct 2014 #28
Nurses agree we need national health care Tweedy Oct 2014 #29
Robots? HockeyMom Oct 2014 #31

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
16. Barking up the wrong tree by asking the President of the U.S.A. to be concerned...
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:07 AM
Oct 2014

About an outbreak of a virus with a 70% death rate, in the USA? Amazing....

quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
18. Protecting workers
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 02:09 AM
Oct 2014

of any stripe has not been a top priority of the US government for quite some years. Unfortunately, that includes our current president.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
2. There are only about a bazillion diseases
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 08:47 PM
Oct 2014

that are a bigger public health problem than Ebola. You would think that nurses, of all people, would know better.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
13. Influenza
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:07 PM
Oct 2014

Hepatitis C. Drug resistant TB. MRSA. For starters. Would you like me to name more and make you look sillier?

The only reason Ebola is a "crisis" is because the news media can boost ratings by scaring middle class white Americans with it.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
14. Flu, Hep C, DRTB, & MRSA....
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 11:09 PM
Oct 2014

... are deadlier than ebola. Really? Well, silly me. Please, make me look sillier. Do name more, Dr McSketicscott.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
23. Tens of thousands of people
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 06:27 AM
Oct 2014

Die from flu JUST in the US every year. Many more worldwide. 15,000 people die from Hep C just in the US every year. Hundreds of thousands worldwide. People like you remain ignorant of those facts because the media doesn't shout them at you hourly, but if 15,000 people had died of Ebola this year, we'd be under martial law.

And of course, let's not forget AiDS. Over 10,000 deaths a year, just in the US. 1.5 million world wide, just last year. And basically a 100% mortality rate. But hey, that only kills blacks, gays and junkies, so who cares, right?

And yes, you do look silly.

Tweedy

(628 posts)
27. Flu is much more contagious--
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:37 AM
Oct 2014

You need to understand that the flu can mutate and become extremely deadly.

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,099 posts)
10. The larger problem is austerity is the new fad in hospitals
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:11 PM
Oct 2014

We nurses are doing far more work with less resources, and help.
We are mandated to stay longer hours beyond our shifts,
Operating rooms and procedure rooms are factory assembly lines,
A ten minute cleanup, after a bloody case with the expectation
To be set up and ready for the next patient in another 10 minutes
Or deal with the crybaby surgeon, cuz if he ain't cutting he ain't making money.
We are bone tired yet are harshly penalized for human error.
The MDs and management want unions gone!
The CEOs and top management get outrageous bonuses for cutting and
Slashing. We RNs see what is really happening in our hospitals
And if the public really knew, they would be mortified.
I no longer have faith in our healthcare system.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
17. Thank you!!
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:10 AM
Oct 2014

For telling the truth about America's Privatized Band-Aid Healthcare System....running on a shoestring....to say the very least.

AdHocSolver

(2,561 posts)
19. What you describe was true 40 years ago when I worked in a hospital.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 02:24 AM
Oct 2014

Nurses often have to put up with complaints and criticism, and what often amounts to abuse, from all sides: from hospital administrations, doctors, patients, and patients' families.

Nurses are in the front line of patient care. A rule of thumb: You can gauge how well a hospital will treat its patients by how well it treats its nursing staff.

A suggestion: If you need medical care and it can't be handled by outpatient treatment, be nice to the hospital's nursing staff. A positive outcome for your health may depend upon it.



Sognefjord

(229 posts)
22. Ages ago, I had a job disinfecting an OR. It was serious work and it took me more than 30 minutes
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 03:19 AM
Oct 2014

to do the job properly and another person worked with me on the sterilization. And this was in a big city for-profit hospital. No one was pushing us to rush through this important work.

eilen

(4,950 posts)
24. True Story:
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:06 AM
Oct 2014

An orthopedic surgeon in our hospital, associated with the big ortho office in our area is a big rainmaker. He however has a arrogance and mean problem and was slapping his patient's in the ass (often leaving a mark) and saying degrading things about them when they were under anesthesia. A few techs and nurses complained of the behavior to management. They essentially did nothing but talk to the surgeon about his behavior and had the Director of Surgery talk to him. He was pretty dismissive and did not stop. The managers and other people in leadership toyed around with cameras in the ORs to demotivate that behavior and (his work against staff) substantiate any more complaints. This was shot down by the Board d/t liability exposure (it becoming evidence.... in a lawsuit). So it was dropped. Then a traveler nurse was in the OR and saw this and did not go to management but went right to the state. Big blow up. The local DA was considering pressing charges. Problem was, since much time had passed patients that maybe thought it happened to them did not step forward but d/t patient confidentiality/HIPPA, the names of the patients involved were either not provided or they did not wish to be identified/aka were happy enough with the surgery. The surgeon was asked to leave and he went to another local hospital who claimed they had no problems or c/o of this kind of behavior. All the whistleblowers and the managers of the unit (but not the Director or the Board members) were dismissed. The hospital c/o they lost millions of dollars with the surgeon. They rehired the surgeon.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
32. You should do an OP about this. Great information.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 12:25 PM
Oct 2014

Thank you for stating this from the front lines of health care. I cannot believe the routine change in shift hours for nurses. Doing a 12 hour shift is absolutely exhausting and can only lead to more human error, just due to exhaustion.

Keep telling everyone about this. Could you write an op-ed about this for your local paper? This is information that the public needs to see. It effects everyone.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
5. How do Texans expect the federal government to help them?
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:00 PM
Oct 2014

Texas hospitals are free to ignore every freaking recommendation CDC has ever made.

I suggest they go work in another state where their lives are valued and there isn't such loathing of all things federal.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
12. I'd believe a union leader before any politician.
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:38 PM
Oct 2014

Politicians (even the President) are given information that has passed through many filters. And when they speak, they parse their words to try to satisfy as many different groups as possible.

But that's not so with true union leaders. They are given unfiltered info. from the membership, and they act for one reason only: to better conditions for the membership.

So, yes, good for the Nurses Union!

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
15. National Nurses United on Twitter
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 12:19 AM
Oct 2014
https://twitter.com/NationalNurses

showing questions/comments from around the country.
For example: A nurse in Florida was fired for calling the CDC to ask about Ebola, hospital said it was a HIPPA violation WTF?

Tweedy

(628 posts)
30. Absurd!
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:45 AM
Oct 2014

We need to ask the right questions. Why is any hospital ignoring the cdc and why are there no meaningful consequences for doing so?

tridim

(45,358 posts)
26. Step 1: For-profit hospitals should be illegal.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:35 AM
Oct 2014

But Congress would have to actually do something to make that happen. So it won't happen.

Tweedy

(628 posts)
29. Nurses agree we need national health care
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:43 AM
Oct 2014

Right now, hospitals are regulated by the state in which the hospital sits. There are not enough employees at the cdc, or the nih to supervise every hospital in the nation.

Moreover, what the nurses are seeking here is a massive government intervention in hospital management. After the multiple screw ups at Texas Presbytarian one certainly sees the nurses' point. The GOP freaked out about premium support to buy health insurance and many red states refused to expand Medicaid. What do you think the chances are this proposal will go anywhere with legislation? I would say zero.

We need to hold the senate and make in roads in the house. The press needs to get a clue and start asking why this hospital failed to follow clear protocols and send Mr. Duncan, a seriously sick man, home in the first place.

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