Joan Quigley, astrologer who advised Reagans, dies
Source: SF Gate
Joan Quigley, a San Francisco socialite and writer who became famous as the astrologer who advised President Reagan and First Lady Nancy Reagan in the 1980s, has died. She was 87.
Mrs. Quigley, who was fashionable and social but had a flinty stare, spent seven years as the White House astrologer, advising the Reagans on everything from when to schedule Air Force One takeoffs to the best time for summit meetings and surgeries. She also took credit for reshaping the presidents views on the Soviet Union, recommending a conciliatory rather than confrontational tone. It was Mrs. Quigley who urged President Reagan to stop using the term Evil Empire.
Sometimes I would talk with Nancy for three hours a day, Mrs. Quigley said in 1995, living at the time on Nob Hill with her sister, Ruth Quigley. She added, I was hired in May of 1981 to protect the president. This was after he had been shot. I really timed everything the Reagans did. For seven years I worked with them, sometimes 10 hours a day.
Reagan was the only Aquarian president who didnt die in office, she added.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Joan-Quigley-astrologer-who-advised-the-Reagans-5843140.php
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Can we all imagine if Obama had this kind of voodoo going on in his administration. But yet these kooks the Reagans don't get mocked or looked at as ridiculous from the right.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)The fundies had no problem with this Pagan stuff, so long as St. Ronnie was involved.
hatrack
(59,584 posts)It's kind of like the Psychic Friends Hotline - why do they need to ask for your credit card number?
zappaman
(20,606 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Summary:
1.Astrology is regarded as a pseudoscience that the belief that the planets respective positions in space have some effect on human affairs and natural Earthly phenomena. It is more of a study.
2.Horoscopes are more of a chart or diagram that make use of astrology concepts. They serve as guides for people on how they should act or behave. To some degree, it also serves to foretell some parts of ones future.
3.Some are skeptical with the use and validity of horoscopes. It is derived from the Greek word horoskopos, which means looking at the hours.
That last one should start "Not enough are skeptical...". It would be a more interesting world.
Read more: Difference Between Astrology and Horoscope | Difference Between | Astrology vs Horoscope http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-astrology-and-horoscope/#ixzz3H1O4MiuF
greyl
(22,990 posts)technically, it's an overstatement)
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)Both were bat shit crazy, were conscious of the fact and hid it from the public. The difference is King, though ruthless and ambitious, actually cared about ordinary people. Ordinary white people that is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lyon_Mackenzie_King
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)just another layer of the evil deceitful time which was his legacy
calimary
(81,220 posts)Fitting tribute for an individual who initiated and fostered the flushing of the democracy of the United States down the crapper.
Exquisitely fitting.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)Only heard of Nancy's interest (like the Czarina and Rasputin?).
Worst couple I've ever seen in the WH, clear distain for their own kids.
But the End of Reaganomics has to come-
Hi Calimary
calimary
(81,220 posts)Heck, even the POPE is onto you, ronnie, and your foul, selfish, greedy, short-sighted, selfish, cockeyed, pennywise/pound-RIDICULOUSLY-FOOLISH, and did I say SELFISH world view. Mr. Anarchy. Because that's what his agenda really begat. Fucking ANARCHY. Giving the cretinous, thoughtless, willfully - indeed PROUDLY ignorant nutcases the freedom and the sanction to push us into total anarchy - the "nobody tells ME what to do" crowd. They don't really want an "America." What they are actively working toward is turning America into some sort of white people's Somalia: total anarchy, no government, no order, warlords and pirates running amok, power concentrated in the hands of a very few, millions of homeless, starving, disenfranchised refugee masses, and all the guns and ammo you can eat, all over the damn place! Somalia! American-style! They don't even realize it. Reminds me of that remark from the Cross - "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." But in this case, these utterly brainwashed idiots know not - PERIOD.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)sincerest thanks for this little piece of post-hipster irony.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)God, I'm behind the times.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Jeane Dixon also did good in the weirdest way possible (warning, not actually a nice story)
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)and nearly worshiped President by the Conservatives, was allowed to have an Astrologer? The right wingers Conservative Christians of today, would have that woman up on "witchcraft" charges today or she would have been kept a back room secret.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Remember the 900 number craze?
Conservatives were racking up minutes as they popped jelly beans.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)on Nancy. You know, the whole "weak and evil woman, rebelling against Gawd" and "if the President had known where Nancy's information came from he would have rebuked her in the name of Gawd and stopped her from consorting with Satan's minion" response.
Amazing indeed!
Reagan scared the hell out of me when he was President!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Brain dead COUNTS.
trusty elf
(7,390 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Without looking it up?
I was only able to come up with six (There were 8).
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Sticking to the modern era - say since WWII.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Especially in the later years?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Unlike "too stupid to be president".
oberliner
(58,724 posts)GWB it is!
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reddread
(6,896 posts)she was well utilized for that.
calimary
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I had a friend who did astrological charts for people (he was actually quite skilled). He followed Carroll Righter, as a fan and then eventually as a friend - this "Astrologer to the Stars" in the golden age of Hollywood. Carroll Righter was still alive during the reagan era - he died April 30, 1988. reagan was in office til January 1989.
In the early 80s, my friend gave me a reading with Carroll Righter as a birthday present. I went to his home in the Hollywood Hills and noticed immediately - the photo of him with ronnie and nancy back in the movie star phase of reagan's career. It was on prominent display in Righter's living room, on a table easily within view of where he had you sit, in front of his desk, while he read his chart for you. You couldn't miss it.
I remembered that later on when this scandal broke and I managed to get an interview with Carroll Righter about that. And I went back up to his house for my interview appointment - wherein I was seated in the same chair in front of his desk. And guess what? That photo was GONE. It had been removed. I glanced around the room when I first entered, just to check for it and it was nowhere to be found. CONSPICUOUSLY ABSENT.
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mopinko
(70,088 posts)i love this place.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Just in case anyone was wondering what his astrological sign is.
niyad
(113,275 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)For what that is worth.
(Bill Clinton, that is)