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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 06:46 PM Oct 2014

Ford picks Mexico over Windsor for engine plant, union says

Source: CBC News

Ford picks Mexico over Windsor for engine plant, union says
CBC – 6 hours ago.

Ford Motor Co. has decided to build its new engine in Mexico after it was unable to reach a deal with the federal and Ontario governments to bring the investment to Windsor, Ont., Unifor said Friday.

Both levels of government suggested that they would not provide public money for the project because the automaker wouldn't make certain job and economic commitments.

In a news release, Unifor said it had hoped that months of discussions between Ford, two levels of government and the union would result in "significant investment which would have secured the production of a global engine at the Windsor facility."

It has been confirmed that the global engine will be built in Mexico, Unifor said.

“We are disappointed,” Unifor national president Jerry Dias said in the release. “The auto industries that are flourishing around the world are ones where there is a deep commitment from government and an understanding of the importance and wisdom of investment – which always pays dividends.”


Read more: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/windsor-loses-1-000-potential-161721666.html

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Ford picks Mexico over Windsor for engine plant, union says (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 2014 OP
So . . . OldRedneck Oct 2014 #1
Ford makes few engines in the U.S. of A. anymore... IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2014 #5
Barking up the wrong tree. Psephos Oct 2014 #16
Haven't had a Ford since the wrecker driver told us that without them he would be out of business. jtuck004 Oct 2014 #2
"Haven't had a Ford since the wrecker driver told us that without them he would be out of business". EX500rider Oct 2014 #7
It's also worth noting that Lincoln is a Ford brand, and it's near the bottom of that list. Chakab Oct 2014 #8
Seven from the top is near the bottom? happyslug Oct 2014 #9
I meant near the bottom in terms of problems reported per vehicle. Chakab Oct 2014 #11
Where is the Honda? candelista Oct 2014 #15
#6 on the list EX500rider Oct 2014 #17
Thanks. I must have harmed by eyes by reading too much DU! candelista Oct 2014 #18
A reward for slaughtering 43 students who dared to protest against local government... whereisjustice Oct 2014 #3
This post is a ridiculous stretch. What do the missing students have to do with Ford? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #14
Pri is referred to "el narco gobierno" here. Guaguacoa Oct 2014 #19
And secondvariety Oct 2014 #4
This after receiving $5.9 billion loan from tax payers, and benefiting from clash for clunkers. justice1 Oct 2014 #6
How many of the US big three are in Guaguacoa Oct 2014 #20
I'm not getting this graph problems per 100 vehicles? How does 168 figure into 100? YOHABLO Oct 2014 #10
I agree that seems off... EX500rider Oct 2014 #13
There are 1.68 problems per vehicle madville Oct 2014 #21
for every 100 cars x number of problems are reported n/t Godhumor Oct 2014 #23
deep commitment from government hibbing Oct 2014 #12
The moral of the story seems to be that Ford was unwilling to guarantee jobs in the community Heywood J Oct 2014 #22
 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
1. So . . .
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 06:53 PM
Oct 2014

Ford's choices for the plant were Mexico or Canada.

And what do you bet Ford has paid little or no taxes to the USofA while enjoying the security of being headquartered in a stable nation.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
5. Ford makes few engines in the U.S. of A. anymore...
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 08:02 PM
Oct 2014

... and for awhile only their specialty engines in Cleveland was the only plant that Ford made engines at in America. They shipped the mainstream car engine making to Mexico long ago. Windsor is where the V-8 engines are/were made.

Psephos

(8,032 posts)
16. Barking up the wrong tree.
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 02:48 PM
Oct 2014

GM is the king of the zero income tax car companies, due to its 2008 bankruptcy provisions to carry forward many billions of losses to offset taxes.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
2. Haven't had a Ford since the wrecker driver told us that without them he would be out of business.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 06:56 PM
Oct 2014

Well, for those that drive them, they ought to be cheaper. Decent health care and all that other stuff would have cost them money. And for the used market...wonder if there might be line of Fords coming out of the North soon, cheap?

Maybe Canada ought to do a little more with Tesla or Volkswagon. Or GM.

EX500rider

(10,835 posts)
7. "Haven't had a Ford since the wrecker driver told us that without them he would be out of business".
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:32 PM
Oct 2014

Actually they are middle of the pack for reliability...

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
3. A reward for slaughtering 43 students who dared to protest against local government...
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 07:07 PM
Oct 2014

business as usual. The "free" market isn't so free after all is it.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
14. This post is a ridiculous stretch. What do the missing students have to do with Ford?
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 02:42 PM
Oct 2014

Nothing.

They were allegedly killed by the Guerreros Unidos drug gang, working with the mayor of Iguala and his wife, who are now both on the run.

Ford doesn't have a plant in Iguala, or anywhere in the state of Guerrero, as far as I can tell.

The governor of Guerrero has been forced out over this incident. He is not a member of the governing PRI.

Guaguacoa

(271 posts)
19. Pri is referred to "el narco gobierno" here.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 04:46 PM
Oct 2014

When pena nieto was here in mexico state, he was running the police and then governor before president, he and his police shot down a bunch of unarmed farmers protesting. It's pri's style.

The governor of guerrero was prd. The mayor of iguala tried to get backing from pri and could not, he went to prd and got it after big contributions to them. He really was from no party.

Guaguacoa

(271 posts)
20. How many of the US big three are in
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 04:52 PM
Oct 2014

the top 10 of the top american made cars? 3

http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp?section=top&subject=ami

People buying ford, gm or chrysler (most models) to buy us made are fooling themselves.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
12. deep commitment from government
Sat Oct 25, 2014, 12:29 AM
Oct 2014

Yeah, socializing the costs and privatizing the profits, American capitalism at its best, but it just was not enough government "investment" for them.

Peace

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
22. The moral of the story seems to be that Ford was unwilling to guarantee jobs in the community
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 11:37 PM
Oct 2014

in exchange for receiving public money from that community. The odds of those two particular levels of government agreeing on anything right now are astronomical, so that makes me wonder what's up.

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