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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 06:35 PM Oct 2014

Pro-West Parties, Nationalists Win Ukraine Vote

Source: Agence France-Presse

Pro-Western and nationalist parties swept Ukraine's parliamentary election Sunday, exit polls showed, in a boost for President Petro Poroshenko's anti-corruption reforms and attempts to end a war with pro-Russian rebels.

The results pointed to overwhelming consensus on Ukraine's bid to steer from Russia's orbit on a pro-Western path eventually targeting European Union membership.

The snap election came eight months after a street revolt overthrew Moscow-backed president Viktor Yanukovych, sparking conflict with Russia and a crisis in relations between the Kremlin and Ukraine's Western allies.

The polls were called to clear out the last vestiges of Yanukovych's regime -- and to some extent this was achieved.

Read more: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/141026/pro-west-parties-nationalists-win-ukraine-vote

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Pro-West Parties, Nationalists Win Ukraine Vote (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2014 OP
Candy King Poroshenko is the coupe installed regime, Yanukovych was elected by ALL of Ukraine. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #1
says the RT.com itsrobert Oct 2014 #2
and fired by the elected Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #3
Blame the rebels who declared independence and prevented people voting in their region muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #4
Coup? No, instead.... reACTIONary Oct 2014 #8
Yanukovych was no more elected by all Ukraine than any President is elected by all of America karynnj Oct 2014 #10
Unfilled seats? Seats stolen by a coup and reserved for those they are trying to kill....good one. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #12
those nice people in the east Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #15
You believe what you like, free country. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #18
not to mention, now Putin Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #16
Yanukovych choppered out of the country with his oil paintings in tow. No one wants him back. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2014 #23
keep trying LOL snooper2 Oct 2014 #24
the extreme right Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #5
Exactly, and the same news source had an article titled "Ukraine picks moderates over radicals" karynnj Oct 2014 #9
But...but...Nazis!...Cookies!...Nazi Cookies! Throd Oct 2014 #6
amazing what Google images brings up Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #7
Are they actually Nazi cookies? The Swastika is an eastern religious symbol. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #11
Yes it could be the religious symbol Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #14
And the CIA, dont forget the CIA!! 7962 Oct 2014 #13
Waiting for the pro-Russia faction to tell us that this is just another rigged election davidpdx Oct 2014 #17
We are bored and uninterested in some folks continual denial of history, geography and ethnicity. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #19
what humiliation? Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #20
By "we" I assume you mean United Russia stooges. Adrahil Oct 2014 #22
Many fewer fascists than in Russia's parliament. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #21
Last check, Svoboda's not even eligible to join a ruling coalition. Right Sector fared even worse. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2014 #25
And The Radicals, Sir, Are Polling Behind Yanukovich's Remnant... The Magistrate Oct 2014 #26
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
3. and fired by the elected
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 07:14 PM
Oct 2014

parliament after he had Russia help him pack his riches and flee the country leaving no President. Even his own party voted to fire him.

Lets see how free and fair the those elections in the rebel areas will be. It is funny they are scared to let the people in the east vote in this election by threatening them with possible death.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
4. Blame the rebels who declared independence and prevented people voting in their region
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 07:20 PM
Oct 2014
Vladimir Putin has given the strongest indication yet that Russia is defusing its policy towards Ukraine, saying that Moscow will "respect the choice of the Ukrainian people" and work with the country's government after a new president is elected on Sunday.

Previously, the Kremlin had not made it clear whether it would recognise the vote amid the continuing violence in the east of the country, where pro-Moscow separatists have declared two independent statelets after questionable referendums held earlier this month.

The separatist authorities have said they will do everything possible to disrupt the elections, stating they do not plan to hold "the presidential elections of a neighbouring state" on their territory, and there has been a campaign of terror and intimidation against polling stations and election officials.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/23/russia-ukraine-vote-vladimir-putin-president

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
10. Yanukovych was no more elected by all Ukraine than any President is elected by all of America
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 10:15 PM
Oct 2014

Not to mention, he ran on a platform of moving towards an economic relationship with the EU - that he back tracked on because Russia was against it. Not to mention, after he left his corruption became more evident.

Also, it might well be that the loss of Crimea, which was Pro-Russian means that what was close to 50/50 between western leaning and pro Russian is now leaning far more to the west - and this is more so because the rebel held areas did not allow the vote (so their seats are currently unfilled - which is possibly the best way to handle it.)

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
12. Unfilled seats? Seats stolen by a coup and reserved for those they are trying to kill....good one.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 10:19 PM
Oct 2014

No thanks, I think the folks who the Candy King are trying to kill should remain unseated.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
15. those nice people in the east
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 10:41 PM
Oct 2014

threatened to kill voters and poll workers in the east if they tried to elect their own representatives. Best they leave them unfilled and allow voting for those representatives if and when they do not threaten to kill voters.

Guess what, there was no coup. They Ukrainian government sure is not killing all of the people in the areas that have been reclaimed from the pro-Russian side. They allowed them to vote freely for their representative. That is quite unlike what is happening in the east.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
16. not to mention, now Putin
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 10:43 PM
Oct 2014

has admitted that Russia helped him take his loot and evacuate him to Russia. This left no President to fulfill those duties.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
23. Yanukovych choppered out of the country with his oil paintings in tow. No one wants him back.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:11 AM
Oct 2014

He was not deposed in a coup, and Poroshenko was not "installed" to replace him.

Basic facts.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
5. the extreme right
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 07:22 PM
Oct 2014

showed very poorly and only got around 5-6% of the vote. Communist party did not even manage to get 5%.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
7. amazing what Google images brings up
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 08:37 PM
Oct 2014


Must have been taken at the embassy for Victoria Nuland to pass out

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
11. Are they actually Nazi cookies? The Swastika is an eastern religious symbol.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 10:18 PM
Oct 2014

It is common in India, though it is represented as flat on a base, whereas the nazi version is at 45 degrees slant.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
19. We are bored and uninterested in some folks continual denial of history, geography and ethnicity.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:14 AM
Oct 2014

We have moved on to other things since the humiliation of the Candy King and his fascist militia army.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
20. what humiliation?
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 08:34 AM
Oct 2014

His side won a convincing victory in free and fair presidential and parliamentary elections that were monitored by thousands of international observers.

Svoboda party so far has some 4.63 percent and may not even get past the 5% threshold for a representative, Right Sector also did not get past 5%, fascist my ass

By the way the name calling does not look good for you

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
22. By "we" I assume you mean United Russia stooges.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:03 AM
Oct 2014

You lose all credibility when you lump together anyone who opposes Russian hegemony in Ukraine as a fascists.... especially considering Putin's behavior.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
25. Last check, Svoboda's not even eligible to join a ruling coalition. Right Sector fared even worse.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 09:34 AM
Oct 2014


Somebody's paper tiger is crumbling.

The only unsavory ones eligible to join a coalition is Liashko's folks, but even they are a small minority.

The overwhelming bulk of the votes seems to be going to the moderate but clearly pro-Western blocs. Sounds like as good of a result as any.
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