GOP To Iowans: Your Neighbors Will Know If You Don’t Vote Republican
Source: Think Progress
The GOP is trying to convince Iowa voters on Facebook that their neighbors will know if they voted Republican.
Screenshots of Facebook ads, promoted by the official Facebook page of the Republican National Committee feature an ominous message: NOTICE: All Voting Is Public. The ad tell voters that In a few months, Iowa will release the list of individual who voted in this election. Most troublingly, the ad includes an arial view of a neighborhood with checkmarks indicating that These People Voted GOP.
It is true that voter participation in elections in public information. But how a someone voted, including what party they voted for, is not. The secret ballot has long been considered a hallmark of American democracy.
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The Facebook ads at issue go beyond traditional vote shaming by strongly implying that their ballot will not be secret. Two Facebook users who posted screenshots of the ad on social media confirmed to ThinkProgress that they had seen the ads on their Facebook newsfeed.
Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/election/2014/10/31/3587414/iowa-republican-facebook-ads/
I guess you couple these tactics with employers threatening to fire employees who vote Democratic, and we can welcome the return of facism.
donnasgirl
(656 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)donnasgirl
(656 posts)GOP To Iowans: Your Neighbors Will Know If You (Dont) Vote Republican, it seems to me the message is the same as the one i recieved from the Democrats in NY which i find highly questionable tactics from both sides.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)I think it is clear the GOP is trying to tell voters as a result of 'public records', the press or other interested parties will find out how they voted and let their neighbors know it if they didn't vote Republican.
Pitiful, but then again, that's what the 'P' in GOP stands for today.
'PITIFUL'
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)JaxMan
(11 posts)if someone were to go knock on the doors of the houses in the picture and ask them how they really voted...wonder how many did actually...
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)is being condemned by other dems.
So not similar. Eerie.
former9thward
(31,961 posts)Primary ballots are not. It is public whether you voted R or D.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)donnasgirl
(656 posts)That this type of garbage needs to stop and i find the tactic sickening.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)The headline is slightly misleading, since one might think that the Democrats are not going to kick anyone's ass but the Republicans will kick everyone's ass once they take control of the Senate. It's the Democrats who are trying to get out the vote in this case, although they ought to fire the marketing genius who thought of using this approach. The headline and the story are written to give the impression that Democrats are threatening people into voting.
The Republicans are actually threatening Iowans into voting for Republicans out of fear. Fear of what, I'm not sure, since there is no way anyone can tell if someone voted for candidate x or candidate y unless he tells someone else.
donnasgirl
(656 posts)And recieved the message, and i can tell you without hesitation most of the Democrats i know are highly pissed off.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)should be fired.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Chemisse
(30,806 posts)Thankfully, Dems did not go as far as the Republicans in threatening that the votes would be public:
Who you vote for is your secret. But whether or not you vote is public record, the letter says.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)The GOP image takes it the extra step of implying they know who you vote for, intimidating people who are voting to vote for the GOP in addition to calling out those who don't vote. The Democratic message linked to is focused on general turnout since Democrats feel they are in a position of advantage when voter turnout is higher. Yeah, it's a terrible message imo, but I find the Republican image much more insidious. Republicans are masking a "vote Republican or else" message in a general "get to the polls message".
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)A family member (who is conservative) told me about her neighbor that got something in the mail (not Facebook) from Americans For Prosperity and that she felt harassed. The mailer used similar neighbor's will know language and attitude. Her neighbor was annoyed and thought it was a liberal outfit (don't ask me why), but she felt she HAD to vote. She felt manipulated.
The family member, who identifies as conservative but refuses to pay attention to political news (she can't even remember if conservative is "left" or "right-wing" asked me if I was familiar with this outfit since she knows I pay attention to politics. I told her about AFP and said "Your neighbor was harassed in to feeling like she has to vote. Why would a liberal outfit harass someone who is a conservative and always voted Republican every time they voted in to feeling like they have to vote? Does that make any sense at all?"
She became very quiet, and I'm sure promptly forgot the entire conversation.
Turbineguy
(37,312 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)They have not a shred of ethics.
Mustellus
(328 posts).. they really can find out who their actual supporters are.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)that have a 1%'ers agenda? NOT ME!
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)first came to power and the next phase was to abolish the German parliament and remove any political figure that was in disagreement with his Nazi party. In many cases those political figures were executed by firing squad.
Now you can tell me I'm crazy but if the Republicans take over both houses and give the Koch brothers all the power they need to accomplish their goals, abolish the EPA, ban union membership or any form of organized labor. Minimum wage laws abolished et,etc.
Does anyone think this is a radical assumption.
Well for one their is no longer a Republican party as there was with Ike and Regan era. Tea Party Republicans want to destroy liberals and even within our own party Democrats fear being called a liberal and feel they have to be center of the left or right and when they fear being called a liberal then they must be a Republican.
Go back and check the History of the mid Thirties when Hitler came to power and see the resemblance of todays Republican Tea Party tactics.
How about the voting laws that restricts voters..campare it too.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... you said it for me!
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
George Santayana
CanonRay
(14,093 posts)I know we casually throw the word fascism around, but Jeez...
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)supercats
(429 posts)bulloney
(4,113 posts)We just let them in our country and they've been gradually infiltrating our system to where it is today. Only, they call themselves Republicans and Teabaggers.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Now if you were in the public spotlight or running for any political office you would have to apologize for that statement but you are correct that brought an early morning LOL
TRoN33
(769 posts)Republicans to Iowans, if you don't vote for Republicans, your neighbor will know and they would go like this
Republicans are truly masters of fear tactics.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)The votes of specific people are identified, can the election be nullified???
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Why is the GOP never penalized for this type of election fraud?
ReRe
(10,597 posts)I don't give a shit WHO knows I'm a Democrat. I'm not ashamed of the fact. I think Republicans are the ones who don't want anyone to know how they vote.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)and Red Township that a Democrat doesn't dare have a yard sign supporting a Democrat. They get torn up or stolen, or spray painted and people don't speak at the local coffee shop. I do. I bash Republicans like I always do.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Sorry, struck me funny again, all of them with their mouth open, at the unexpected turn of events.
47of74
(18,470 posts)People who don't like how I vote can go straight to hell. The Iowa GOP can go fuck themselves, I'm not ashamed of having voted Democratic in this or any other election.
My personal message to the Iowa GOP is;
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)is pretty bipartisan I'm sorry to say.
http://www.courant.com/politics/elections/hc-voting-record-mailers-1101-20141031-story.html
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Someone in the house was watching...all I could do was keep yelling BULLSHIT and turning up the volume on another TV.
It's sooooooo rigged with the "subtle" comments how Dems are going to lose, lose, lose in all areas because we are sooooooooo disgusted with OUR President.
Lies...lies...lies...all built to manipulate.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)RW fascism never left us. It's been here all along, willing to punish and harass all those who deviate from RW ideology. Fascism gets its name from the Latin "fasces" meaning "bundle." It was a bound bundle of wooden rods that sometimes included an axe. The fasces were carried by Roman legionnaires as symbols of the Tribunes, or magistrates, power and authority. The rods were for beating people, and the axe was to chop off hands, feet, or heads of those, who broke the law. The RWers are very big into punishing people. As far as I am concerned, the GOP long ago passed over the boundary of "conservatism" and into pure unadulterated evil. They are all a bunch of sociopaths.
Peacetrain
(22,873 posts)and I voted DEMOCRATIC!!
Pantagruelsmember
(106 posts)The big picture, Obama reality the obstructionist GOP won't admit:
The economy has recovered from the Bush/GOP disastrous incompetence
Obama has been at least as good as Reagan for the economy. In fact, U.S. has now had 63 straight months of job expansion, including 54 consecutive weeks of private sector growth.
Obamas administration has created more jobs in five years than Bush managed in all eight.
The ebullient stock market reflects BO/Dem leadership.
The Federal Budget Deficit has Shrunk by 2/3 since 2009
The Obama administration is the most honest, scandal free in history. Government Spending has only gone up 1.4 percent under Obama, the lowest spending has increased since Eisenhower, The Last Actual Republican. Government spending increased 8.1 percent under Bush, and 8.7 percent under Reagan.
Taxes have only increased on those making $400,000 a year or more, the richest 2 percent of Americans.
For approx. 95 percent of us , taxes have actually gone down.
Bin Laden is dead.There have been no significant foreign attacks on American soil.
U.S. dependence on foreign oil is at a record low due to domestic oil production and higher fuel efficiency standards
The dollar is KING and there has been no appreciable inflation.
The U.S. under BO is the envy of the world.
Obamacare is working. Approximately 10 million Americans who didnt have health insurance before have it now. Rates havent gone up across the board as predicted by GOP critics mainly because healthcare costs are now rising slower than they have at any point since 1960 and in many cases going down. The success of Obamacare has extended the projected solvency of Medicare out to 2030. Seniors have saved $Billions on prescriptions and millions of Americans have received refunds from their health insurance companies thanks to provisions of ACA.
Just the indisputable facts....
*Blogger jeff61b compiled and published many of these stats which I'm passing along and suggest you pass along too.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)And they are trying to intimidate them back in line.
moreland01
(736 posts)Republicans in Colorado got this threat too from "Americans for Prosperity" a.k.a. the Koch brothers. I work in the election office for my county and we're getting a lot of calls from people angry and/or worried because they got a call from someone telling them their vote hasn't been cast. I look them up in the database and assure them that their ballot was received (assuming it was) and will be counted. I'm so surprised they don't direct their anger at whomever it was that gave them a threatening flyer or phone call. They always assume that the county sent it to them.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and in this state, it can get nasty as people can and will get violent.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)K. K. Ringle I would assume he will also. Strange man always disappearing around the 24th of December.
Pakid
(478 posts)and I don't care one bit who know that I don't vote for Idiots, liars, or fools and you Republican are all three plus a whole lot more bad things
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)Hey, republicans since I have already did my part for this republic and voted, I just want you know that it was not for republicans, and if you have to resort to harassing ones neighbors on which party they vote for and for who, you have just made the yourself into a third rate party and should have charges brought upon you for voter intimidation.
I would like to remind all Iowan's to vote this coming November 4, 2014 and think about all those citizens that gave there all to die to protect this right, because we all have read and heard how "ONE" party is creating voter suppression in 27 states in this republic, and it has not been the democratic party
Deepunder
(6 posts)All voters should take it as it was given a threat. Anyone who would threaten their neighbors on how they might vote is un-American and does not understand what the United States of America stands for. Many people have served this country so we can all have the right to vote our conscious and not be threatened by others who feel they have a right and the duty to force others to vote how they want us too. When I say duty these people will do almost anything even if it meant breaking the law believing there are others like themselves within our government and courts that would protect them and reward them in the future.
These people have little respect for others and no respect for our form of government. What I dont understand if they dislike it so much what form of a government do they want? I would love someone to provide me with specific ideas and not just say less government and fewer taxes. If thats the case I say they still want to keep this form of government they just want to make some changes. Based on whats been going on in a number of states at least one group thinks they are better then other Americans when it comes to who they think should be elected. So they are trying to do everything they can do to limit what Americans can vote. Thats why this kind of a threat is an attack on everything this country stands for. Today they try to limit the minority voters tomorrow anyone that declares themselves a member of another party other then the GOP.
We need to stand up to this now or don't be surprised how different our country will look in the future.
Thav
(946 posts)I've had democrat signs in my yard for some time now!
Aside from that, some hard consequences need to happen to ANY group that tries to suppress voting, especially through blatently false information.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)you walk into the voters booth it is confidential.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)So are voting histories in terms of which elections were voted in.
EEO
(1,620 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)Cha
(297,029 posts)Youdontwantthetruth
(135 posts)quite some time.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)I've used two different types of voting systems. In the old system, they recorded the counter number on the machine before each person voted. In the new system, they record the ballot number. If they matched the ballot to the sigh in sheet they can figure if out.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)There is no way this is going to happen. It's illegal. And what if "they" get it wrong? Even if the accuracy rate was 99%? OMG, if I was listed as a republican, I'd shit. And who do you talk to to get it corrected? Who owns the data, accurate, or inaccurate? Next thing you know, future employers could then access this information and discriminate against your party. Nope. Don't see it happening.
I realize we are in the digital age, but I don't see this ever happening. And if they did, it should be kept confidential. Odds are, the government already has this information.
Bettie
(16,083 posts)And anyone who has ever met me would be shocked if I voted Republican!
That's probably why the other PTO moms won't talk to me...or maybe it's because I'm ten years older (minimum) than they are and not 'from here'.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)DFW
(54,325 posts)Today's Republicans are the most ardent Stalinists since their "Uncle Joe" departed this world in 1953.
DFW. They have purged the rational and reasonable Republicans from their ranks. Stalin 2.0.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)It's an old fundie religious trick.....
Thus proving (once again) that the GOP is a religious cult.
Besides, why would one be ashamed one voted Dem? The only fear here is that some nutty Conservative might slash your tires or follow your kids to school. Yeah.... vote for them instead!
Maybe we should print up some signs and stickers "Proudly voted for Democrats".
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)JaxMan
(11 posts)You mean there's only one? Sounds like something a Republican would say...
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)voters, in America, will be punished for how they voted? How fucking dare they.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)doing some serious acrobatics to justify what the Dems in NY were doing (something pretty similar).