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hue

(4,949 posts)
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 08:48 PM Nov 2014

North Carolina voters report voting machines switching their votes to GOP candidate

Source: RAWSTORY

A voter in Guilfrord County, attempting to take advantage of early voting in North Carolina, told the News-Record that the voting machine he used repeatedly switched his vote for a Democrat to a vote for her Republican opponent.

Percy Bostick, 69, of Greensboro said he tried casting a vote for Democrat Kay Hagan — who is locked in a tight battle with her GOP opponent — however the machine, located in the Old Guilford County Courthouse — assigned his vote to Republican Thom Tillis.

“I called one of the poll workers over,” Bostick explained. “She said do it again. And again, I touched the screen at the proper place for Kay Hagan, and it again reported it for Thom Tillis.”

According to Bostick, the machine finally recorded his vote for Hagan on the fourth attempt.

A poll worker then stepped in and cancelled Bostick’s ballot altogether and directed him to another machine which registered his vote correctly. The problematic machine was taken out of service.

On Wednesday a voter using a machine at the Craft Recreation Center in Greensboro experienced the same problem with their vote going to Tillis.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/north-carolina-voters-report-voting-machines-switching-their-votes-to-gop-candidate/



I'm not suprised.
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North Carolina voters report voting machines switching their votes to GOP candidate (Original Post) hue Nov 2014 OP
No Worries! chuckstevens Nov 2014 #1
they will cave "for the good of the country" noiretextatique Nov 2014 #15
Bringing back memories LiberalLovinLug Nov 2014 #39
you're killin' me RussBLib Nov 2014 #40
i will never forget it noiretextatique Nov 2014 #55
Why is it you never hear machines switching GOP to Dem? dballance Nov 2014 #2
I had the same problem last week in Kansas. Took 3 tries to get it to register for the Democrat. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #7
Sad part is...who says it really did register the Democrat? n/t FourScore Nov 2014 #22
Yep. Nobody knows but the programmers and their boss Amonester Nov 2014 #25
And whether any and/or all of the previous tries went through for the Republicans, Jamastiene Nov 2014 #33
You're right. It's sad, and they keep that information to themselves. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #38
You mean like these stories? Lurks Often Nov 2014 #43
I Stand Corrected dballance Nov 2014 #44
Some things never change. geomon666 Nov 2014 #3
shocked, I tell you, just shocked. olddad56 Nov 2014 #4
If voting does not work, then what is the status of our borderline democracy?? Maineman Nov 2014 #5
Cheaters aways prosper. Kablooie Nov 2014 #6
If you can't beat 'em, cheat 'em. nt TeamPooka Nov 2014 #8
I hate to say "I told you so"....but the fix is in in NC loudsue Nov 2014 #9
These wre the same voting mcahines used in 2008, right? brooklynite Nov 2014 #16
That means nothing right now. FourScore Nov 2014 #20
Machines malfunction though AND Jamastiene Nov 2014 #34
FYI you should not be steered to a specific machine by an election judge- of course if there is lunasun Nov 2014 #10
why am I not surprised oldandhappy Nov 2014 #11
5) McCrory Jamastiene Nov 2014 #35
Damn, I have been hearing about this since Bush was Selected, but most of my life, freshwest Nov 2014 #12
Maybe Anonymous will reverse the hack. yourout Nov 2014 #13
oh noes...the dreaded "glitches" noiretextatique Nov 2014 #14
Democratic Leaderships Fault billhicks76 Nov 2014 #17
That makes no sense. Obama lost the state in 2012 and will lose the senate there this year. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #23
Depending on which Republican ad you see on TV, Kay Hagan either voted with Obama Jamastiene Nov 2014 #36
I think what they are saying is that the Democratic leadership should be investigating all aspects rhett o rick Nov 2014 #42
Well You Haven't Been Around Long Enough To Be Cynical Then billhicks76 Nov 2014 #47
Blah blah blah. Bullshit! None of your dribble makes sense Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #54
Hahaha ...You're Uneducated billhicks76 Nov 2014 #58
I disagree that Obama did it - or even Clinton JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #28
This is how I discovered DU. After the 2004 election, FourScore Nov 2014 #18
Bingo. You've discovered their dirty little secret. nt valerief Nov 2014 #21
www.bradblog.com billhicks76 Nov 2014 #48
Funny how these things ALWAYS favor the GOP candidates. nt valerief Nov 2014 #19
If this had been a Rethug vote switching over to the Dem... CincyDem Nov 2014 #53
Must. Look. Forward. Don't want to cause waves. Don't want to be seen as "partisan." We're so above blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #24
Well said. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #45
It also happened to a DU'er in TN JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #26
"The problematic machine was taken out of service." Botany Nov 2014 #27
I've never voted on a machine (British, paper ballot) but... mwooldri Nov 2014 #29
It is not the mechanical aspect of the machine. It is the programming. djean111 Nov 2014 #51
if only the justice department had focused on resolving this crap samsingh Nov 2014 #30
Right on!! rhett o rick Nov 2014 #46
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #31
I'm a Gilford County voter...I'll vote tomorrow and video my experience with the machine...if there masmdu Nov 2014 #32
Would love to hear some bully pulpit on this. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #37
Funny how vote flipping generally seems to prefer Republicans. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #41
What do people expect. As soon as Obama was in office everyone got amnesia about E-Voting Problems. Lodestar Nov 2014 #49
My what a coincidence workinclasszero Nov 2014 #50
One of s number of plans Turbineguy Nov 2014 #52
Do any of these vote switches get videoed? Documented? Investigated? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #56
I'm shocked I tell you workinclasszero Nov 2014 #57
 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
1. No Worries!
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 08:58 PM
Nov 2014

I'm sure after the election is stolen, the Democratic Party will issue several strongly worded letters. OMG: Wake the FUCK UP AMERICA!

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
39. Bringing back memories
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 06:08 PM
Nov 2014
http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jan/07/news/mn-9426

More than a dozen Democratic lawmakers, most of them members of the Congressional Black Caucus, formally objected to the certification of Florida's electoral votes and walked out on the proceedings because of what Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Texas) described as "the millions of Americans who have been disenfranchised by Florida's inaccurate vote count."

But because the objectors failed to recruit a single senator to join their cause, under congressional rules they were unable to open debate on the Florida controversy.

So it was left to Gore, who presided over the event in his duties as president of the Senate, to overrule their objections one by one, ensuring that Florida's 25 electoral votes would be certified for Bush.


Not one Democratic Senator would stand with one of the Black Caucus objectors to the sham of not allowing Florida to do a proper recount.

Giving in then was also "for the good of the country".

RussBLib

(9,004 posts)
40. you're killin' me
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 06:31 PM
Nov 2014

But it's "good" to remember, right?

If we forget,
it'll happen again,
or something.

And if we remember,
that keeps it from happening again?

And when
will we get
some Democrats with spine?

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
55. i will never forget it
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:28 PM
Nov 2014

and hopefully history will not be kind. that act of COWARDICE gave us 8 years of the most incompetent resident of the white house...ever. besides raygun. at least raygun didn't need SCOTUS to perform a judicial coup, or for the opposition to cave like scary little punks. fuck them for that...forever!!!!

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
2. Why is it you never hear machines switching GOP to Dem?
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:14 PM
Nov 2014

Could it have anything to do with all the voting machine companies being owned by GOP supporters?

Judi Lynn

(160,452 posts)
7. I had the same problem last week in Kansas. Took 3 tries to get it to register for the Democrat. n/t
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 10:05 PM
Nov 2014

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
25. Yep. Nobody knows but the programmers and their boss
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:34 AM
Nov 2014

besides, who even needs anyone actually voting since any prefab results could already be in the results.txt or .dat (or .else) file.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
33. And whether any and/or all of the previous tries went through for the Republicans,
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:04 AM
Nov 2014

when someone was trying to vote for the Democrat. I had seen this story before and wondered if they canceled those faulty (for lack of a better word, other than Diebold/ES&S with cuss words after those names) Tillis votes out, because he would have gotten 3 votes to Hagan's one vote. We need paper ballots nationwide, but nothing ever gets done. It's a shame that in America, you can't trust the integrity of the voting process.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
9. I hate to say "I told you so"....but the fix is in in NC
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 10:09 PM
Nov 2014

There have been a lot of optimists on DU lately about the will of the NC people vs. the Koch heads. But I've been trying to tell folks...the koch heads are hovering over the voting machines.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
34. Machines malfunction though AND
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:06 AM
Nov 2014

they can be hacked. So, it is possible the fix is in. With McCrory and his thugs in charge, let's just say I wouldn't put it past them.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
10. FYI you should not be steered to a specific machine by an election judge- of course if there is
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 10:17 PM
Nov 2014

a voters line it is the next one available . However, if there is not a line you should be able to go to any open voting booth.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
11. why am I not surprised
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 10:41 PM
Nov 2014

gag

You got some problems there N.C.

Believe it is called one of the following: 1) truth 2) honesty 3) ethics 4) fairness.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. Damn, I have been hearing about this since Bush was Selected, but most of my life,
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 10:41 PM
Nov 2014
this never happened. I never had trouble with the old lever style voting machines. This is what we used to vote on:



http://www.bradblog.com/?cat=377

Don't know if these are levers or the touch screens described at the link above.

Now I vote at home on a paper ballot, we had some optical scanners here at one time, where you could check the marks before you put it in the ballot box.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
17. Democratic Leaderships Fault
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:00 AM
Nov 2014

They have kept too quiet. Nothing changes if we don't try. It's fairly obvious to me at this point that Hillary Clinton and Obama work hand in hand with people like the Bushes behind the scenes. The evidence of electronic voting machine fraud has been overwhelming since 2002.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
23. That makes no sense. Obama lost the state in 2012 and will lose the senate there this year.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:24 AM
Nov 2014

It's not in his best interest. And it's not in Hillary's best interest, either. If the Democrats lose control of the Senate and thus have no control of either chamber of Congress, Hillary will lose in 2016. Bet on that!

You don't know what the hell you're talking about, friend.

There are a lot of Democrats being disenfranchised tonight.

But I do blame the cowardly Democrats running in that state--too much of a coward to stand behind their president and the good things that the Democratic Party did for the American people.

Well, if the Democratic Party won't stand behind their own successful policies, then why should we?

If they won't stand behind their own president for fear of being castigated by racists in their respective districts/states, then why should we?

I'm not getting behind any cowardly Democrat who eschews their president. That's just the bottom line.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
36. Depending on which Republican ad you see on TV, Kay Hagan either voted with Obama
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:11 AM
Nov 2014

95% of the time or 99% of the time. Different ones are using different numbers, because they can get by with it, I guess?

Hagan has been behind him for the most part.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
42. I think what they are saying is that the Democratic leadership should be investigating all aspects
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:26 PM
Nov 2014

of voter manipulation especially voting machines verifiability. When Al Gore had the presidency taken away, he smiled, bowed slightly, shook George Bush's hand and they had martinis together (of course, that's how I saw it). The Democratic leadership seems to have little interest in protecting our voting system.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
47. Well You Haven't Been Around Long Enough To Be Cynical Then
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 06:09 AM
Nov 2014

Obama is a puppet of the banks and military/surveillance/massincarceration complex when he refuses to investigate torture or pursues failed and unpopular drug war policies. Im kind of sick of people like you telling me to get in line and support a personality regardless of their policies. Grow up. Obama is just Bush's 3rd and 4th term. The same policies are continued. You have read the Nation's article recently right where its been revealed that Obama is trying to stall the release of the Senate Torture Report until after the elections because he is counting on a Republican victory. You do know he reversed himself on Telecom Immunity and supports spying on average Americans which is 99% Drug War related.You do know he appointed lobbyists to all regulatory positions reversing himself again. You do know he has squelched transparency reversing himself yet again. I see the Democratic Leadership as a colossal failure and completely spineless. Their victories are hollow because they pale in comparison to some of the horrors facing people here and abroad. Republicans live in a bubble so it pains me to see Democrats do the same. And Im sorry you don't know what you're talking about. Hillary and her husband have moved the center further to the right with their centrist, COWARDLY policies and have thus encouraged those on the far right to move further to the right to differentiate themselves culturally. Of course its wrong but thats what they do...they don't want to be associated with minorities, atheists or hippies and have ton off the whackadoodle radar to separate themselves. Democrats got comfortable and didn't get out in the streets and raise their voices...they wimped out and went along giving republicans time to concoct another racist, fear based strategy targeting poor white idiots. Clinton vs Bush in 2016 will be the final nail in the coffin of hope as everyone hates anther nepotistic dynastic monarchy-lite government shoved down their throat. People will be sick of Republicans after they show they are incapable of governing in 2015 and 2016 so I see that having little effect on who wins in 2016...but if its Bush vs Clinton then it won't matter anyway as Wall St and the domestic and foreign war profiteers will have already won either way.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
58. Hahaha ...You're Uneducated
Thu Nov 6, 2014, 04:20 AM
Nov 2014

Time to brush up on your history. You can't respond with more than your win dismissive dribble because you're wrong. I'm way more if a liberal who embodies the ideals of the Democratic Party I would bet money on it. I'm a little more protective if it too because I don't tolerate sell outs. We have lots of great candidates in the Senate and House but the Executive Level has been hijacked by big money and the perpetual war machine. It's not my fault after 6 years you're too blind to see it. It maybe you suffer from that Disbelief Syndrome where unless it fits neatly in your mental outlook box you don't accept it. Time to mature a little. I've been active since I was 18 attending lectures by OUR Congressmen after IranContra hearings where they told me it's all a facade of lies...mostly Republican but some Democrats too like Clinton who played ball with Bush. They said as much about what was learned in Executive Session (private and secret). They also told me they had the same exact thing with the same criminals in the 70s Assassinations Hearings. Nothing has changed. Obama isn't even close to being in charge yes but he still keeps his mouth shut. Cowards are hardly deserving of this powerful position.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
28. I disagree that Obama did it - or even Clinton
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:33 AM
Nov 2014

They need black people to vote for them to win.

The people doing this - they hate us. Hate our guts.

It lies solely at the feet of white Republicans who want to send blacks in this country back to 1927 - because they hate our guts.

#WhiteRepublicansElectionFraud
#MitchMcConnellElectionFraudster

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
18. This is how I discovered DU. After the 2004 election,
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:15 AM
Nov 2014

when I knew the the vote was rigged on a massive scale and couldn't figure out how. Until, I found BradBlog and DU.

Of course it's switching. How else will they get the Senate majority?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
48. www.bradblog.com
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 06:10 AM
Nov 2014

He needs to be featured here on DU more...especially for all the softies out there.

CincyDem

(6,338 posts)
53. If this had been a Rethug vote switching over to the Dem...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 09:02 AM
Nov 2014

...it would have been "BREAKING NEWS" on Faux and by the end of the day, "Switch-gate" would have it's own theme music and graphics.

But that's cuz the media has a liberal bias, right ? LOL
 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
24. Must. Look. Forward. Don't want to cause waves. Don't want to be seen as "partisan." We're so above
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:53 AM
Nov 2014

"the fray." We're going to be "ladies and gentlemen" about it. We'll get to it (someday). We might make the GOP mad at us. Look over there/shiny object!!!

What other BS excuses have the DEM Party apparatus shoved on us to explain their total lack of concern about this??? We're 14 years deep into flipped elections, and NOTHING ever gets accomplished from our "leadership," except negotiating away the Party Plank to placate the GOP.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
26. It also happened to a DU'er in TN
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:30 AM
Nov 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025739316

Morning Joe while they are collectively fellating the Republican party could and should have been doing segments on this - this morning.

I'm hopeful for tomorrow - but once is an anomaly. When it happens twice in two different states then there's some sort of massive election fraud going on.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
27. "The problematic machine was taken out of service."
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:32 AM
Nov 2014

Oh bullshit that machine aka computer was doing exactlly what
it was supposed to do by who or whom ever programed it.

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
29. I've never voted on a machine (British, paper ballot) but...
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:47 AM
Nov 2014

How badly must these machines be made if a touch screen is so badly off? We can have lots of iPads and smart phones and tablets that have reliable touch screens. Are the vote boxes that close together? I would have thought on one screen you vote for a specific race e.g. one screen for US Senate, another for US Congress, etc.

Besides paper ballots, longer terms in office, and not combining so many races together I think would make the whole process easier. e.g. one year you vote for President, House and Senate... another year you vote on State representatives and a third year you vote on local races. The fourth year you would vote on things like Sheriffs, judges, referendums, and certain other miscellaneous races. Thus each year there is an election Tuesday in November, people know what they're voting for, paper ballots can be managed more easily, and with term limits changed it would make it worthwhile for representatives to govern rather than being in an election mode all the time. The term limit changes would be modest - 4 years for the House, and 8 years for the Senate - similar changes would need to be made with State and local races that happen more frequently than every 4 years.

Sorry if this went off topic a bit but with elections in the USA I feel we need some major reforms to make voting more straightforward and to remove a lot of the influence of big money (e.g the Kochs).

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
51. It is not the mechanical aspect of the machine. It is the programming.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 08:51 AM
Nov 2014

This is not accidental. Been in play for quite a while now. Also, GOP governors are just not going to replace easily programmed touch screens.

samsingh

(17,593 posts)
30. if only the justice department had focused on resolving this crap
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 10:22 AM
Nov 2014

instead of raiding medical marijuana facilities

masmdu

(2,535 posts)
32. I'm a Gilford County voter...I'll vote tomorrow and video my experience with the machine...if there
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 10:54 AM
Nov 2014

is any funny business I'll post the video.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
41. Funny how vote flipping generally seems to prefer Republicans.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 06:47 PM
Nov 2014

I guess it's just one of those unfathomable cosmic mysteries we can't possibly figure out.

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
49. What do people expect. As soon as Obama was in office everyone got amnesia about E-Voting Problems.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 08:41 AM
Nov 2014

Nothing has changed regarding the problems attendent to e-voting. And of course Democrats did nothing to correct the problem so what exactly do people expect? We no longer have representative government. Have you got it yet?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
50. My what a coincidence
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 08:47 AM
Nov 2014

M*****FU***** republicans! If they cant get voted in legally they can always jimmy the machines!

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