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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 12:04 PM Nov 2014

Russian memorial to Apple founder dismantled after CEO comes out

Source: Reuters

A memorial to Apple Inc founder Steve Jobs has been dismantled in the Russian city of St Petersburg after the man who succeeded him at the helm of the company, Tim Cook, came out as gay.

The two-metre (more than six-feet) high monument, in the shape of an iPhone, was erected outside a St Petersburg college in January 2013 by a Russian group of companies called ZEFS.

Citing the need to abide by a law combating "gay propaganda", ZEFS said in a statement on Monday that the memorial had been removed on Friday -- the day after Apple CEO Cook had announced he was homosexual.

"In Russia, gay propaganda and other sexual perversions among minors are prohibited by law," ZEFS said, noting that the memorial had been "in an area of direct access for young students and scholars". After Apple CEO Tim Cook publicly called for sodomy, the monument was taken down to abide to the Russian federal law protecting children from information promoting denial of traditional family values."

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/03/russia-gay-apple-idUSL6N0ST32S20141103

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Russian memorial to Apple founder dismantled after CEO comes out (Original Post) Newsjock Nov 2014 OP
So... they'll stop *using* iphones and ipads and such now, right? gcomeau Nov 2014 #1
All the russian iphones have been replaced by this... Javaman Nov 2014 #16
No way. Russia and Putin are the very definition of tolerance and democracy.... blm Nov 2014 #2
blm Diclotican Nov 2014 #4
I disagree - I think the system would bend over backwards for him here. blm Nov 2014 #5
blm Diclotican Nov 2014 #8
He didn't show anything that we didn't know Bush was doing back in 2002. blm Nov 2014 #9
blm Diclotican Nov 2014 #14
Kind of like how it bent over backwards for Private Manning? Ash_F Nov 2014 #10
That trial stayed within the military. blm Nov 2014 #18
I doubt a civilian trial for Snowden would be much more fair Ash_F Nov 2014 #19
I don't. I think he'd seek favored status with press and certainly get it. blm Nov 2014 #21
The ignorance and bigotry is head slapping stupid. tammywammy Nov 2014 #3
Where is that Snowden quote..... Adrahil Nov 2014 #6
It seems the self-fulfilling prophecy that every story is indeed about Snowden really is true. LanternWaste Nov 2014 #17
Yes! It is! Adrahil Nov 2014 #22
they had a monument to jobs!? RedstDem Nov 2014 #7
Sad to see Russia continue sliding to the right. /nt Ash_F Nov 2014 #11
I would love to know more “a smokescreen for a special operation, the NSA of the USA.” jakeXT Nov 2014 #12
They'll put up a shirtless Putin statue in its place Dopers_Greed Nov 2014 #13
They should stop eating apples, too! graegoyle Nov 2014 #15
sounded oddly like evangelical us to me dembotoz Nov 2014 #20
Fucking homophobic nitwits davidpdx Nov 2014 #23
 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
1. So... they'll stop *using* iphones and ipads and such now, right?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 12:21 PM
Nov 2014

I mean, if they're not even supposed to look at an image of one for fear of contamination by the gay...

blm

(112,996 posts)
2. No way. Russia and Putin are the very definition of tolerance and democracy....
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 12:23 PM
Nov 2014

Isn't that why Snowden is there and refusing to come back to the United States?

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
4. blm
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 12:54 PM
Nov 2014

blm

The reason Mr Snowden will not come back to US, is more because Will face a trial where he more than possible will not be able to defend himself in a manner who is suitable in a democratic state (who US claim to be) as no judge in the US would be able to hold a trial - where anyone could get a fair trial - if it then goes to trial at all - I suspect mr Snowden do know - that if he put his two foots in the US - he would be whispered away to somewhere nasty place - to some extra-ordinary justice from the government - maybe not in a official capacity - but still sanctioned by the US government - as it have been doing for at least a decade and a Half by now.... And torture is still torture - regardness of who is torturing..

If mr Snoweden was able to get a fair trial in the US - where the prosecution would be fair and show all the evidence - in a open court - and not claiming "state security or state secret" as ground to close the court - then I guess even Snowden will travel to the US - to get his day in court.... I doubt he want to be in Putin's Russia anymore as it is... The Putin's Russia are not exactly a State with democracy - or for that matter a great state with tolerance... That ship sailed in the mids to late 1990s - when Russia was more open to the world than before, and even gay people could live somewhat in the open - as long as it was descreete...

Diclotican

blm

(112,996 posts)
5. I disagree - I think the system would bend over backwards for him here.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:03 PM
Nov 2014

I think he's being overly dramatic and playing the useful idiot to Putin.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
8. blm
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:24 PM
Nov 2014

blm

That could also be a posibility - Im not sure - but regardness - what he documented - have shown that US do have some bones to pick with him.... If they could get their hands on him...

Diclotican

blm

(112,996 posts)
9. He didn't show anything that we didn't know Bush was doing back in 2002.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:29 PM
Nov 2014

Some of us, anyway. The mainstream media knew and ignored it till it could be used to pile on the current WH.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
14. blm
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 03:38 PM
Nov 2014

blm

Many "Knew" it - but no one KNOW! it - and therefore the ones who supported this things could say - that it was a hoax -and that it did not happened - because the evidence was flimsy at best...

Today we DO KNOW - and are no more in power to stop it than before - but at least we do know about it... And the pilate could not be given to the current occupant of the White House either.... Even if the news media was not into it before...

Diclotican

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
10. Kind of like how it bent over backwards for Private Manning?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:35 PM
Nov 2014

Manning exposes the RAPE AND ENSLAVEMENT of Afghan children by a group of military contractors from Virginia, and the subsequent State Department cover-up.

No charges there.

But they charged Manning with 35 years.

American 'Justice' is almost as awesome as Russian 'Justice'.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
19. I doubt a civilian trial for Snowden would be much more fair
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:09 PM
Nov 2014

Why hasn't Clapper been charged for lying to congress?

blm

(112,996 posts)
21. I don't. I think he'd seek favored status with press and certainly get it.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:55 PM
Nov 2014

If he had done it when Bush was in office, the majority of press would not have sided with him. However, since he made the release during this administration they are eager to make it even more sensational.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
6. Where is that Snowden quote.....
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:16 PM
Nov 2014

Oh here it is:

"These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world. It is my intention to travel to each of these countries to extend my personal thanks to their people and leaders."

Yeah, Eddie.... nice one there, mate!

<facepalm>

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. It seems the self-fulfilling prophecy that every story is indeed about Snowden really is true.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:06 PM
Nov 2014

It seems the self-fulfilling prophecy that every story is indeed about Snowden really is true.

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
7. they had a monument to jobs!?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:17 PM
Nov 2014

That's stupid in and of itself. Good thing they got rid of it. Even for the wrong reason.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
12. I would love to know more “a smokescreen for a special operation, the NSA of the USA.”
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:38 PM
Nov 2014
Maksim Dolgopolov, president of the Russian company that put the thing up, told Biznews-FM that he had no idea when he paid for it that the story of Apple’s success was actually, in his words, “a smokescreen for a special operation, the NSA of the USA.”


http://fortune.com/2014/11/03/why-the-steve-jobs-memorial-in-st-petersburg-was-removed/


In three consecutive transparencies, the authors of the presentation draw a comparison with "1984," George Orwell's classic novel about a surveillance state, revealing the agency's current view of smartphones and their users. "Who knew in 1984 that this would be Big Brother …" the authors ask, in reference to a photo of Apple co-founder Steve Jobs. And commenting on photos of enthusiastic Apple customers and iPhone users, the NSA writes: "… and the zombies would be paying customers?"

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-nsa-spies-on-smartphones-including-the-blackberry-a-921161.html


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