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Omaha Steve

(99,506 posts)
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 09:15 AM Nov 2014

Oil prices at 4-year lows on Saudi discount report

Source: AP-Excite

LONDON (AP) — Oil prices sunk to four-year lows following reports Saudi Arabia, OPEC's largest oil producer, is cutting its prices for customers in the U.S.

By late Tuesday morning London time, a barrel of benchmark crude was down $2.07, or 2.6 percent, at $76.79, its lowest level since September 2010. Meanwhile, Brent crude, the international benchmark, was down $2.14, or 2.5 percent, at $82.63 a barrel, its lowest level since October 2010.

Oil prices have fallen much of this year amid concerns over the global economic recovery as well as excess supplies. The strength of the dollar has also weighed on prices as it makes oil more expensive for international investors.

Fawad Razaqzada, an analyst at Forex.com, says the Saudi report does "not bode well for the future of the cartel."

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141104/oil-price-slump-71c998da2b.html



Remember when the Koch's and other speculators drove the price of oil way up? I hope the speculators are losing ALL of those profits NOW!

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Oil prices at 4-year lows on Saudi discount report (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2014 OP
Oil Futures PeoViejo Nov 2014 #1
Prices have stayed stagnant here. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #2
Aren't they going after fredamae Nov 2014 #3
You are correct. Saudis drop oil prices so fraking isn't worth it economically. KeepItReal Nov 2014 #15
Florida has continued to drop. I saw $2.79 posted today amuse bouche Nov 2014 #18
This is really going leftynyc Nov 2014 #4
Russia and Venezuela hack89 Nov 2014 #6
Could very well happen leftynyc Nov 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Nov 2014 #7
Here's to Saudi Arabia! CJCRANE Nov 2014 #12
Oh, Yeah - "Big Ups" to the Saud Family ... NOT! staggerleem Nov 2014 #14
saudis will have to raise gas prices at their gas stations to a dollar Sunlei Nov 2014 #5
Saudi Arabia is not declaring a volume war (yet): Kemp bemildred Nov 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author KinMd Nov 2014 #10
I'm certainly no economist.. KinMd Nov 2014 #11
You forget NOTHING GOOD CAN HAPPEN ON PRESIDENT OBAMA'S WATCH KeepItReal Nov 2014 #16
Futures at 8:06 PST..... ballyhoo Nov 2014 #13
Speculators leaving the market have accelerated the price drop. louis-t Nov 2014 #17
They just said on the news... Bigredhunk Nov 2014 #19
I was window shopping Prius' Jimbo S Nov 2014 #20
"Who buys a car based on what gas prices have been for a couple of months?" amuse bouche Nov 2014 #21

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
3. Aren't they going after
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 09:54 AM
Nov 2014

Fracking Industry Competition? I heard something the other day about that.
Reminds me of the "Gas Wars" when I was a kid. I remember prices dropping to 4 cents a gallon AND a window wash/tire & oil check Plus they gave us Jello, Campbell's Soup, drinking glasses, cottage cheese etc lol

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
15. You are correct. Saudis drop oil prices so fraking isn't worth it economically.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:37 PM
Nov 2014

High-cost frakers will have to cut costs of production or shut down.

This will be interesting to watch.

It will hurt those folks working in North American fraking, but will bring down energy prices across the board in the USA.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. This is really going
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 10:25 AM
Nov 2014

to screw with Russia. Their economy was already in trouble, the currency keeps tanking and now this. Couldn't happen to a better asshole than putin.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
6. Russia and Venezuela
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 10:56 AM
Nov 2014

I wouldn't be surprised if it pushes Venezuela over the brink into complete economic collapse.

Response to leftynyc (Reply #4)

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
14. Oh, Yeah - "Big Ups" to the Saud Family ... NOT!
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:35 PM
Nov 2014

Now that they have OUR military hard at work fulfilling THEIR dream of wresting Damascus from Shia control, they're giving us a break on their black gold.

I don't know about you, CJ, but I don't much like being played for a patsy on the International stage, and that's how things look to me right now.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. Saudi Arabia is not declaring a volume war (yet): Kemp
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:24 AM
Nov 2014

Saudi Aramco cut the price of December crude deliveries to US refiners on Monday in order to protect its competitiveness amid an erosion of its US market share by rival exporters such as Canada and Iraq.

In August, US crude imports from Saudi Arabia slipped below 900,000 barrels per day, according to the US Energy Information Administration.

With the exception of a brief period in 2009 and early 2010, Saudi exports to the United States fell to the lowest level since 1988.

US imports from Saudi Arabia in August were just 70 percent of the average level for the past ten years which has been around 1.3 million barrels per day.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/saudi-arabia-is-not-declaring-volume-war-yet-kemp-570563.html

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KinMd

(966 posts)
11. I'm certainly no economist..
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:42 AM
Nov 2014

but lower oil price should help the economy. If people spend less on fuel (especially if the winter is normal or miler) then they have money to spend on other things. Which, if the Republicans take the Senate tonight, they'll claim credit for.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
16. You forget NOTHING GOOD CAN HAPPEN ON PRESIDENT OBAMA'S WATCH
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 12:40 PM
Nov 2014

That is the GOP credo.

Hence all the obstruction from right-wingers.

louis-t

(23,273 posts)
17. Speculators leaving the market have accelerated the price drop.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 01:03 PM
Nov 2014

Saudi Arabia has only one objective-kill the fracking industry in this country. They don't like competition. I imagine they could absorb huge losses for years. If they succeed, we could have $140 bbl again in a few years. Enjoy it while you can. Buy hybrid.

Bigredhunk

(1,348 posts)
19. They just said on the news...
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:09 PM
Nov 2014

…that people are buying gas guzzlers again due to the low gas prices. Sales of cars like the Volt have really dropped off. It blows my mind that people act like gas is going to stay cheap. Who buys a car based on what gas prices have been for a couple of months? Unreal.

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
20. I was window shopping Prius'
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:25 PM
Nov 2014

out of curiosity. Sales told me Prius re-sale value drops when gas prices drop, and vice-versa.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
21. "Who buys a car based on what gas prices have been for a couple of months?"
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 03:30 PM
Nov 2014

I agree. Pathetically short-sighted and just plain moronic

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