After midterm rout, Obama says he got nation’s message
Source: Wash. post
President Obama said Wednesday that he accepts the American publics message in the midterm elections that Washington needs to break its political gridlock, even as he will now face a tougher final two years after Republicans won control of the Senate for the first time in seven years.
I hear you, Obama said at a news conference in the East Room.
Obviously, Republicans had a good night and they deserve credit for running good campaigns, he added. What stands out to me is that the American people . . . expect the people they elect to work as hard as they do, expect us to focus on their ambitions and not ours. They want us to get the job done. All of us in both parties have a responsibility to address that sentiment.
Obamas remarks came shortly after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), fresh off his partys sweeping victory Tuesday, sounded a bipartisan note, calling on Obama and Democratic leaders to find common ground with the GOP during the next two years. The president had spoken with McConnell, who stands to become majority leader, by phone shortly before their news conferences.
Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-republicans-ready-to-work-toward-finding-common-ground/2014/11/05/ab332396-64f4-11e4-9fdc-d43b053ecb4d_story.html
Gloria
(17,663 posts)but why didn't the voters get the message that the Republicans had vowed
to screw around from day 1???
Honestly, I hate this mincing around.
I've always believe in permanent campaigns...you tout your own accomplishments all the time
you are in office.,
Obama has been so aloof and reticent and just not on point with his messaging at all....
radhika
(1,008 posts)It was loud and clear, and wildly enthusiastic. Both in the USA and internationally.
It was a time when voters all across America gave his Progressive sounding hope-change anthem a massive win. He even briefly had a veto-proof mandate until Ted Kennedy died.
But neither Obama or the Dems ran with that message, or lived up to it's spirit. The DNC declined to get the troops in line on legislation. even letting it slide when incumbents filibustered several Dem bills procedurally. That hope/change message was diluted beyond recognition, subverted and corrupted. So sad.
We-the-People won't have a similar shot at things for quite some time, IMO.
villager
(26,001 posts)So it wasn't "gotten"
deutsey
(20,166 posts)theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Right to the point.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)to the very good question in post #3
onethatcares
(16,161 posts)to a tee.
The night in Grant Park should have been their first clue.
rury
(1,021 posts)But the Blue Dogs and other conservative Democrats did not.
He never had that "veto-proof" mandate you fantasize about, because unfortunately Democrats were never marching in lock-step like Republicans do.
We will never have a significant about of perfectly progressive legislation passed on a national level until the voters elect not only a progressive president like Barack Obama, but a overwhelmingly progressive Congress to cooperate with him or her.
We need BETTER, not just MORE Democrats in Congress.
Idealistic posters here keep pining away for the likes of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. But even if one of them managed to win they would still be stymied and forced to compromise and work with a recalcitrant Congress exactly the way that President Obama has.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)Kennedy's death there was no super majority, and you seem to forget all the filibustering.
President Obama has been constantly on message, going directly to the voters and asking them to vote in the midterms in 2010 and 2014 to save his progressive agenda and hitting the Rethuglikkkans for their obstructionism. Not reticent at all!
Skittles
(153,113 posts)he's just an innocent bystander in this mess.......riiiiiiiiiiiight
savalez
(3,517 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,393 posts)On Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:21 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
The message is young voters suck. n/t
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savalez
(3,517 posts)Bingo.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)telling those lazy young people they suck is the best way to get them to vote
savalez
(3,517 posts)In context EVERYBODY knows what I meant. Post 30 clearly explains for those who don't get it. They failed to show up at the polls. Period.
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)paper boy
(52 posts)or two. or three.
Turbineguy
(37,291 posts)Voters want gridlock. That's why they elect republicans. Fox News wants you to hate America.
turbinetree
(24,683 posts)In 2006 when the democrats took over both houses, we heard from the right wing hypocrites that they wanted work together -----not really
In 2008 when the democrats had control of both house we heard the right wing say they wanted to work together again----not ,not really : ofl:
In 2010 when the democrats lost control of the house we heard the right wing republicans say we are going to dismantle entitlements and other social net programs
In 2012 when the democrats held the senate we heard from the right wing senate say under Touché Turtle that they were not going to work with democrats and not passing anything out of chamber except to filibuster and the house was just screwing everyone and attacking everyone and democrats
In 2014 we lost both houses and we hear compromise:
And now we hear the president say he wants to work with a bunch of hypocrites to do what everything
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)force on Republicans.
As long as the average American demands that Democrats govern and seek compromise and bipartisanship, we will continue to see these results.
That American voters do not and have not held Republicans accountable for failing to compromise and govern, again, we will continue to see these results.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)with "Corporate Media" and your observation would be more correct.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)reinforces those standards, I stand by my thesis.
sendero
(28,552 posts).. on himself. It has nothing to do with the voters, nobody told him to fold like a paper napkin, that's how he rolls.
And nobody likes a "leader" who does that so hence no respect, no vote.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)They expect Democrats to be more bipartisan. We liberals do not reflect mainline Democrats. Most Americans DO expect bipartisan. They do not expect the same of Republicans. That is the fact.
Look at how the corporate media treats both parties. You can't tell the difference? They never demand or expect Republicans to seek bipartisanship.
Do let your hatred of Obama lead to dishonesty. You know the truth.
sendero
(28,552 posts)...I just think he has failed as a leader and NOBODY wants Democrats to slash SS and shit like that as part of any "compromise".
You cannot accept the reality that Obama has been a disaster for the Democratic brand. Touting Keystone, the TPP, chained CPI and on and on makes him look like an appeaser which is basically the best description of him I can think of, a people pleaser. Not a good trait in a leader.
And with that I'm putting you on ignore because you cannot tell the difference between valid criticism (the proof is in the pudding, a ROUT for the Democrats and he gets MOST of the blame whether you like it or not) and "hate".
Reply at length and make any kinds of bullshit accusations you care to because I won't see them anyway.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Republicans to get into office, we would not be in this predicament.
Obama has to work within the parameters set for him.
If the Democratic Party was comprised of ONLY liberal Democrats, I would hold Obama 100% accountable. But if you have a Democratic Party made up of moderates, conservatives and liberals.
If you then have a Republican who has refused to work with the Democratic president, then what do you expect him to do?
He has to govern.
This is the ONLY time in the history of our republic that this has ever happened.
Even Bill Clinton had Republicans work with him. Yet, you guys do not mistreat Bill Clinton as badly as you have treated this president. Why? Bill Clinton made decisions of much greater negative impact than Obama. We are still dealing with the horrible decisions from Clinton--much of which Obama is confronted with now, such as this fucking Corporate Media, thanks to Clinton's deregulatory policies. Wonder why the jobs that are being created are so shitty? NAFTA!!! But you shit on Obama and say nothing about Clinton's policies. Why? Repeal of Glass-Steagall, which is exactly WHY Wall Street hasn't been prosecuted. Why hasn't Wall Street been held accountable? DEREGULATION!!! When you make illegal actions LEGAL through deregulation, then there's nothing to prosecute! Not sure why that's so hard for liberals to understand, and yet, they point at Obama and not Clinton who was responsible for this. Why?
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,546 posts)the President cannot just wave a magic wand and change things. I too have been disappointed by his actions which in reality, to me, reflect how politics work. He says he hears the message. Notice that he didn't say the R's hear it too.
lobodons
(1,290 posts)McConnell's calling on Obama and Democratic leaders to find common ground with the GOP during the next two years.
Fuck you McConnell. Where the hell where you during the last fucking 6 years finding common ground working with Reid and Obama!!?? No where. THats fucking where. You were to busy doing everything you could to thwart Obama and indirectly the country.
So once again I say, Fuck you McConnell!!!!
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Today matters to the American population and they are taking note for 2016. If we don't do this right, Republicans will have all 3 branches again. I saw Rubio on MSNBC talking to a Hispanic crowd talking Spanish of course and they seemed enthused for him. Why aren't the Democratic Hispanics out talking with Hispanics. If I didn't know better, I would think that Cruz, gomert, Rubio and Bush were the only Spanish speakers. Heck even Rand Paul gives a bit of Spanish in his speeches.
quadrature
(2,049 posts)it could have been worse.
Smart political moves by President Obama
in recent months, saved US Senate
seats in Virginia and New Hampshire.
rury
(1,021 posts)+1,000,000
LoisB
(7,183 posts)who stand for what they believe. I think if Democrats hadn't run FROM him so fast, the outcome might have been different. So, is he going to hold out his hand to them again or just bend over?
My opinion.
.... people are sick of the double talk. At least Republicans actually get in and try to carry out their agenda. Progressives get lip service and not even the good kind.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)He and the First Lady went and gave speeches and support for every Governor and lost a huge majority including Illinois and Maryland.
Guaguacoa
(271 posts)and he lost by 5 points in place that should have been a walk in the park. The problem was that they could not escape him, even those that tried.
Democrats need to accept that during this voting period obama was poison. Naturally he has supporters, but to the "masses" he was/is poison. I don't know the answer, but I do know democrats need to learn from this and not try and deflect......it could be even worse.
I'm just being a realist.
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)Did Durbin distance himself from Obama? I don't think so, and Durbin won handily. Quinn lost because Quinn was unpopular, period.
Guaguacoa
(271 posts)part of the us, but then why did the illinois governor get beat with obama and michelle stumped and fundraised heavily for him? He got beat by 5 points and the whole state went red. His home state is the ultimate loss where the democrat should have won easily.
I don't think the outcome would have been any different, in fact I think they couldn't escape from him.
https://www.google.com/search?q=illinous+governor+republican&gws_rd=ssl
This is going to probably piss you off, but I think denial is the worst thing democrats can do to fix this.
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)Just the governor's mansion. We still have veto-proof majorities in the house State and Senate. Quinn made too many enemies on pension reform and the budget crisis--he could have been implementing an epically progressive agenda, but instead he chose to pursue the path to austerity. THAT is why he lost while Dems all around him kept their jobs. In any case, Madigan runs this state.
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PSPS
(13,579 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)n/t
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)Maineman
(854 posts)Big money is buying elections these days. Is he really unaware of that?
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)This was the single largest expensive election to date.
For a midterm.
If you don't for a moment believe they are going to want returns on their 'investments' your more niaeve than I thought, Mr. President.
The question is...do you compromise or drag you're populist populist agenda into play to counter the upcoming onslaught?
I won't hold my breath...
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)unknown to many some of the Democratic Representatives and Senators are libertarian.
demwing
(16,916 posts)or its just...you know...your "sincerely held belief"
Kablooie
(18,610 posts)The only way to break it is for Obama to start approving whatever the Republican Congress throws at him.
I had a feeling that the veto pen will not be wielded nearly as often as many have expected.
Obama likes being bipartisan and expect we will see that side emerge soon.
(Which basically means kowtowing to the right.)
We are in for a wave of Republican laws washing over the whole country soon.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)or be less Black?
0rganism
(23,927 posts)8 weeks is how long you have to fill any cabinet or judicial vacancies that require senate approval with people who might want to support your legacy instead of destroying it.
Better get to work on that, real quick-like, or just get ready to eat shit for the next 2 years.
Darb
(2,807 posts)that did not vote?
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Doesn't matter. Results matter.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Darb
(2,807 posts)You give them far too much credit.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Day late, Dollar short.
We'll all be watching you cave to the Pukes.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)Had more of us turned out, we would have a better chance of getting it done. Instead, we've hamstrung ourselves for at least the next two years, and gonna have to play short.
Lobby your representatives on both sides of the aisle. Make them all hear you.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Maybe he'll get an emmy when he leaves office.
America is chock-full of really really gullible (aka stupid) people, and TPTB are taking full advantage of their naivete. I'm quite sure now that the only votes counted in our elections are those of the 1%.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)"They" say they hear us............now.
But I know there have been Millions upon Millions of calls/letters/emails to POTUS/Dems over the past decades that was sufficient messaging...but, the Base was ignored. At some point, they Must realize-"Ignoring" will be reciprocated.
I'll believe "they're" hearing us/getting the message when I see actual credible Change!
candelista
(1,986 posts)That's how Democrats interpret a Republican win nowadays.
Hotler
(11,394 posts)I'm going to give in to the Keystone pipeline and ram through the TTP and let the repugs privatize Social Security and and and and.......
RussBLib
(9,003 posts)1) get money out of politics
2) replace the electronic voting machines with something that produces a paper trail and is traceable
3) learn how to advocate better for your policies