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Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:39 PM Nov 2014

Butting Heads: Town's Tobacco Ban Hearing Shut Down for Being Too Rowdy

Source: NBC News

Butting Heads: Town's Tobacco Ban Hearing Shut Down for Being Too Rowdy
39 minutes

WESTMINSTER, Mass. — Only a handful of people were able to speak on a proposal that could make the tiny Massachusetts town of Westminster the first in the nation to ban all sales of tobacco products when boos and shouts from the crowd shut down the public hearing Wednesday night.

Sixty or more residents in the packed Westminster Elementary school gymnasium were registered to share their opinions. Some among the audience of several hundred toted signs opposing the ban; some had participated in a rally earlier.

But amid shouts of "America!" and "Freedom Now," Board of Health chairwoman Andrea Crete gaveled the hearing to a close just 25 minutes into it instead of taking comments.

~snip~
Joyce McGuire, a Westminster resident and nonsmoker who opposes the ban, also was disappointed the hearing ended early.

"I think people are really angry because they feel this is being shoved down their throats," she said. And with the proposal drawing national media attention, she added, "I think we all feel really embarrassed. I don't think this is the way our town is."


Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/butting-heads-towns-tobacco-ban-hearing-shut-down-being-too-n247471

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Butting Heads: Town's Tobacco Ban Hearing Shut Down for Being Too Rowdy (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2014 OP
What is becoming of our great country yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #1
Yeah goddammit bring back DDT. CBGLuthier Nov 2014 #2
No, no, no, no, no.... MADem Nov 2014 #4
Back to the days of Banned in Boston rpannier Nov 2014 #8
It'll go over like a lead balloon.... MADem Nov 2014 #13
Actually if it's used wisely and properly, DDT is one of the best ways to fight malaria. sir pball Nov 2014 #16
Tobacco should have been banned over a century ago. valerief Nov 2014 #3
So should have the thing in your lancer78 Nov 2014 #5
Ha! It was only banned after it was saturated throughout the culture. nt valerief Nov 2014 #17
Oh come on, it's just small "f" fascism. And it's for a good cause, eh? n/t jtuck004 Nov 2014 #6
Ban abortions in towns, tobacco, whatever The Straight Story Nov 2014 #7
Pretty Much rpannier Nov 2014 #9
As a former smoker UglyGreed Nov 2014 #10
What nerve!!!! A SENSIBLE approach to the issue? Here? On DU? MADem Nov 2014 #14
I better be careful UglyGreed Nov 2014 #15
How did Prohibition work out? HockeyMom Nov 2014 #11
I'm sorry, N.Y. to Paris Nov 2014 #12

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. No, no, no, no, no....
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 12:59 AM
Nov 2014

Tobacco is not yet banned at the federal, state, or county level. It's not illegal. No legislature has sat and heard evidence and decided to ban it.

I could do without the substance, myself, but it's just not "on" to ban perfectly legal substances even if they might be bad for you.

I know a person who uses tobacco medicinally to assist with postural hypotension. It doesn't have many medical applications, but there's always the rare one.

Here's the thing--vendors can decide FOR THEMSELVES to not carry it (like CVS recently did). But for a town council to declare that merchants can't sell this or that, well, that's just authoritarian.

Next thing you know, they'll "outlaw" movies with too much s-e-x in them, or books with suggestive passages. Hey, those prurient thoughts are bad for you...what's the difference between dirty minds and dirty lungs, n'est pas?

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
8. Back to the days of Banned in Boston
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:03 AM
Nov 2014

This time it'll be Banned in Westminster

I agree.
I do have a problem with banning perfectly legal things
If a merchant chooses not to carry that's one thing

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. It'll go over like a lead balloon....
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 10:43 AM
Nov 2014

And of course, the right wing will blame the whole thing on "liberals" notwithstanding the contributions of "crunchy cons" and "tiger moms" in the mix on the pro-ban side, and "free to be" and "cold dead hands" types on the other side.

After the town hall was shut down and a shitload of people escorted out, the committee deciding the matter said they'll take recommendations in writing only. The police rather dramatically escorted them to their cars "for their protection."

That was the take away on NECN this morning, anyway....

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
16. Actually if it's used wisely and properly, DDT is one of the best ways to fight malaria.
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 12:00 PM
Nov 2014

Lightly misted onto walls and other surfaces in mosquito-ridden areas, it's persistent and environmentally isolated while still extremely effective at controlling the insects (they fly in, land on the DDT, and Bob's your uncle). The problem is with the indiscriminate spraying of tons of the crap all over every place imaginable...even water's toxic at a high enough dose.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
7. Ban abortions in towns, tobacco, whatever
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 03:45 AM
Nov 2014

People like banning things on the left and one the right - sad to see but both parties seem to love controlling the choices of others.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
9. Pretty Much
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:04 AM
Nov 2014

They just choose which things they want to ban and criticize the other for banning things they like

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
10. As a former smoker
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:09 AM
Nov 2014

I do not believe it should be outlawed. To each their own, as long as they are respectful and smoke where others do not have to breath in the secondhand smoke.

N.Y. to Paris

(110 posts)
12. I'm sorry,
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 10:43 AM
Nov 2014

I don't mean to make light of it, but this immediately took me to Blazing Saddles...."Yeah! What Gabby Johnson said!!! I think Morgan Freeman said it best when talking about smoking the herb..."you can't stop people from doing what they want to do!" I don't smoke anymore, but I couldn't care less about it, this country has lost its fucking mind.....

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