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hue

(4,949 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:38 PM Nov 2014

Missouri Governor Activates National Guard

Source: abcNEWS

Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon has declared a state of emergency and activated the National Guard in advance of a grand jury decision about whether a white police officer will be charged in the fatal shooting of a black 18-year-old in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson.

Nixon said Monday that the National Guard would assist state and local police as needed, in case there is civil unrest when the grand jury's decision is announced.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/missouri-governor-activates-national-guard-26975108



This does not look good.
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Missouri Governor Activates National Guard (Original Post) hue Nov 2014 OP
Crap. K&R for exposure. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #1
12-48 Hours AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #2
How does he already know the verdict? Racist assholes!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #3
There is a window before the information is released publically. Gore1FL Nov 2014 #27
the Govenor should be arrested for inciting a riot :( PatrynXX Nov 2014 #4
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #5
Targets is probably not the best word choice AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #11
That list is not all targets? GusBob Nov 2014 #13
Clever. Kingofalldems Nov 2014 #15
This list is being passed around, however.... Matt_in_STL Nov 2014 #22
Thanks for posting the list of vile bigots, racists and hate monsters. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #25
I've only seen the list on a right wing blog site. Gore1FL Nov 2014 #28
Because it isn't. Kingofalldems Nov 2014 #41
Same here, I did not see it anywhere at that link and the poster should be ashamed arcane1 Nov 2014 #42
They have been preparing Seedersandleechers Nov 2014 #6
Just for to get in early on ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #7
And, lest we forget, Jackson State nichomachus Nov 2014 #10
I debated on which to post ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #12
I think Jackson State was worse (although both were horrific) nichomachus Nov 2014 #14
The thought of that murderer getting away with it just made me ill BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #8
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #9
I love that man. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #26
If they start to fight the sadoldgirl Nov 2014 #16
You underestimate the hate out there. There will be people who show up with guns to kill black folk. jtuck004 Nov 2014 #17
That is what scares me Gore1FL Nov 2014 #29
This doesn't bode well. nt elias49 Nov 2014 #18
Let's hope he's just being prudent. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #19
sigh randys1 Nov 2014 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #20
Lol!!nt bravenak Nov 2014 #51
You're right, that looks very bad. Feral Child Nov 2014 #21
Sigh. I know this is something of a pipe dream, but I wish President Obama would KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #23
Pres. Obama could federalize the NG, but he cannot order them to disarm the police, GGJohn Nov 2014 #54
I don't get it. He's termed out as Gov. Why is he still playing to the racists? SunSeeker Nov 2014 #24
Maybe he's trying to position himself as the 'law-and-order' candidate KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #30
Police chief worried about "Black Panthers or communist activists" muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #31
And there it is, jesus fucking CHRIST , the WH needs to send in Federal something randys1 Nov 2014 #36
"Hippie punching" probably plays well to the local yahoos - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #37
"communist activists"? Is this an economic issue? arcane1 Nov 2014 #43
communist activists . . . what the f'n crap Strelnikov_ Nov 2014 #53
Gov Nixon is being cautious and careful Lurks Often Nov 2014 #32
Maybe, but what is COMPLETELY IRRESPONSIBLE is a recognized and known racist police randys1 Nov 2014 #34
Will the National Guard ensure that local police aren't violating people's KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #35
I think they are being mobilized AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #38
OH god, how sad... randys1 Nov 2014 #39
Protesting is thuggish now? arcane1 Nov 2014 #44
there was a lot of violence last time Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #46
Protesting is not 840high Nov 2014 #58
The grand jury doesn't determine 'innocence' blackspade Nov 2014 #50
Not good Stargazer09 Nov 2014 #40
When is the verdict expected? wheniwasincongress Nov 2014 #45
Grand Juries don't issue verdicts, they determine if there's enough evidence to indict. GGJohn Nov 2014 #55
The pigs are getting ready to massacre black people. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #47
could this be joglee Nov 2014 #48
Nothing wrong in acting 840high Nov 2014 #56
This is a bit OTT..... blackspade Nov 2014 #49
Guess the supposedly secret grand jury isn't onecaliberal Nov 2014 #52
So, the cop walks... blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #57

Gore1FL

(21,119 posts)
27. There is a window before the information is released publically.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:01 PM
Nov 2014

I work with people who are on the list. I don't know if they received word or not. They aren't allowed to say.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
4. the Govenor should be arrested for inciting a riot :(
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:45 PM
Nov 2014

the only violent people there today will be the KKK who just lost their twitter account. um all day.. even the second one I guess

Response to hue (Original post)

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
13. That list is not all targets?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:09 PM
Nov 2014

some are donors, some are sanctuaries and some are hospitals. ???

I'm like, why would veterans for peace be a "target"?

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
22. This list is being passed around, however....
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:44 PM
Nov 2014

There is no proof of this list at the Facebook link. A page called "The Gateway Pundit" published this list and a map but it doesn't seem to show up anywhere else. Also published was a quote that looting and violence may be necessary, attributed to a random Ferguson protester but the link provided for that goes nowhere. Someone is stirring up shit and hoping it catches on.

Gore1FL

(21,119 posts)
28. I've only seen the list on a right wing blog site.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:03 PM
Nov 2014

I couldn't locate the list at Facebook or anywhere else.

Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
6. They have been preparing
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:50 PM
Nov 2014

the citizens for a week now via the media. They know the grand jury is going to NOT going to indict.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
10. And, lest we forget, Jackson State
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:59 PM
Nov 2014

Just a few days later

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_State_killings

A group of around a hundred African-American students had gathered on Lynch Street (named after John R. Lynch), which bisected the campus, on the evening of Thursday, May 14 to protest the United States invasion of Cambodia during the Vietnam War.[2] By around 9:30 p.m. the students had started fires, thrown rocks at motorists and overturned vehicles, including a large truck. Firefighters dispatched to the scene quickly requested police support.

The police responded in force. At least 75 Jackson police units from the city of Jackson and the Mississippi Highway Patrol[3] attempted to control the crowd while the firemen extinguished the fires. After the firefighters had left the scene, shortly before midnight, the police moved to disperse the crowd then gathered in front of Alexander Hall, a women's dormitory.

Advancing to within 50 to 100 feet (15 to 30 m) of the crowd, at roughly 12:05 a.m., officers opened fire on the dormitory.[4] The exact cause of the shooting and the moments leading up to it are unclear. Authorities claim they saw a sniper on one of the building's upper floors and were being sniped in all directions. Later two city policemen and one state patrolman reported minor injuries from flying glass,[5] and an FBI search for evidence of sniper fire was negative.[6] The students say they did not provoke the officers. The gunfire lasted for 30 seconds, and at least 140 shots were fired by a reported 40 state highway patrolmen using shotguns from 30 to 50 feet. Every window on the narrow side of the building facing Lynch Street was shattered.[5]

The crowd scattered and a number of people were trampled or cut by falling glass. Phillip Lafayette Gibbs, 21, a junior, and James Earl Green, 17, a senior and miler[5] at nearby Jim Hill High School, were killed; twelve others were wounded. Gibbs was killed near Alexander Hall by buckshot, while Green was killed behind the police line in front of B. F. Roberts Hall, also with a shotgun.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
12. I debated on which to post ...
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:03 PM
Nov 2014

I thought I'd cast as wide a net as possible, since some here can only relate when it involves them.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
14. I think Jackson State was worse (although both were horrific)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:10 PM
Nov 2014

The Jackson State incident seemed more planned on the part of the police -- and there was the example of Kent State a few days earlier that should have led the police to back off a little.

However, I think the fact that Kent State happened first made it stick more in people's mind. It was a watershed moment that galvanized a lot of people and exposed the government for what it was.

I was an anti-war activist in the late '60s. We had demos and peace vigils, etc. and got a few people. The numbers were increasing by 1970. But the demo we had after Kent State was just overwhelming. So, the incident at Jackson State became kind of a "Oh, no, not again moment." (I'm not denying that there may be some racism involved.) But this is why I always mention the two together. People shouldn't forget.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
8. The thought of that murderer getting away with it just made me ill
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:54 PM
Nov 2014

Dear lord, when will it stop? No indictment? Not even a trial for fuck's sake? Not even a trial?????

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
17. You underestimate the hate out there. There will be people who show up with guns to kill black folk.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:18 PM
Nov 2014

I promise. And it could spread from there. And then people get to shoot back.

This bunch of ass clowns, the "leaders", have no clue as to what they are fucking with, on both sides. Raging stupid. People egging others on to march into what other people are prepared for. I don't think the black leaders are pushing for a confrontation, but I think it could easily be provoked.

Dumbest tactic ever.

Gore1FL

(21,119 posts)
29. That is what scares me
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:04 PM
Nov 2014

Given the choice between upset protesters and people with "race war" on their bucket list, I'll take upset protesters every time.

Response to hue (Original post)

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
21. You're right, that looks very bad.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:44 PM
Nov 2014

I'm beginning to believe they actually want to provoke the population so they can lie and over-react; another excuse to erode our civil rights for our "safety", and another condemnation of our black population. An overall hardworking and responsible folk that have carried the burden of the white conservatives' fear, hatred, and manipulation for centuries.


I'm very upset.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
23. Sigh. I know this is something of a pipe dream, but I wish President Obama would
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:47 PM
Nov 2014

federalize the MO National Guard RIGHT NOW!, so as to take them out of Nixon's control. And then task the (federalized) National Guard with disarming all local constabulary forces.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
54. Pres. Obama could federalize the NG, but he cannot order them to disarm the police,
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:29 PM
Nov 2014

that would be illegal and trigger a Constitutional crises, just exactly what the repubs would be itching for.

And, BTW, I'll bet alot of the NG are police officers, you think they'll obey any order to disarm their brothers and sisters?

A little critical thinking goes a long way.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
24. I don't get it. He's termed out as Gov. Why is he still playing to the racists?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:49 PM
Nov 2014

Is Nixon running for something?

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
30. Maybe he's trying to position himself as the 'law-and-order' candidate
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:08 PM
Nov 2014

for VP in 2016?

What a shitstain this bozo is.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
31. Police chief worried about "Black Panthers or communist activists"
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:09 PM
Nov 2014
St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar says they are concerned that the Black Panthers or communist activists might blend in with peaceful protestors and try to hurt police.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/11/17/police-command-worries-about-radicals-when-grand-jury-wraps-up/

Seems to be stuck in the 1960s. Or 50s.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
36. And there it is, jesus fucking CHRIST , the WH needs to send in Federal something
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:17 PM
Nov 2014

This is INSANE, there is NO black panther party, there is NO communist party

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
43. "communist activists"? Is this an economic issue?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:54 PM
Nov 2014

St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar is a fucking dumb ass. If anyone tries to "blend in with peaceful protestors" it will be HIS COPS!!!!

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
53. communist activists . . . what the f'n crap
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:14 PM
Nov 2014

Dude has one of the 60's versions of "How To Suppress Discontent: For Dummies".

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
32. Gov Nixon is being cautious and careful
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:10 PM
Nov 2014

We all hope the National Guard isn't needed, but you don't wait for the shit to hit the fan before you decide to make sure the National Guard is ready.

Doing this now gives the National Guard units time to assemble, do whatever needs to be done to get ready and probably spend sometime brushing up on their riot control training.

Given the high tensions and the potential for problems, it would be extremely irresponsible for Gov Nixon not to have the National Guard ready.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
34. Maybe, but what is COMPLETELY IRRESPONSIBLE is a recognized and known racist police
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:16 PM
Nov 2014

dept in Ferguson and all of MO for that matter be in charge of any of this.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
35. Will the National Guard ensure that local police aren't violating people's
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:16 PM
Nov 2014

civil rights or worse? Or maybe the Guard is being activated to prevent massive police violence?



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-quigley/ten-illegal-police-action_b_6171964.html

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
38. I think they are being mobilized
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:29 PM
Nov 2014

to prevent thuggish behavior by people upset that our justice system appears ready to issue a fair, impartial verdict.

But you don't care about Wilson's innocence if that is what the Grand Jury decides, do you?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
39. OH god, how sad...
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 07:35 PM
Nov 2014

even when I see it in black and white, i can barely believe it

white privilege is an intoxicating thing

How can this be justice if there was no trial?

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
46. there was a lot of violence last time
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 08:52 PM
Nov 2014

Ask the owner of quick trip how peaceful everything was. My hope is everything will be peaceful and the national guard will sit around doing nothing, but after the previous events, I don't see a problem with them being prepared.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
50. The grand jury doesn't determine 'innocence'
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:24 PM
Nov 2014

It determines if there is enough evidence to indict.
There is no 'verdict' here.
You seem to be confusing a grand jury with an actual trial.

 

joglee

(24 posts)
48. could this be
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 09:50 PM
Nov 2014

Could this be as simple as someone trying to be proactive and prevent another L.A. riot?

I am not saying that is why, but the situations are very similar and if this cop gets off free of murder then it is a possibility(not saying it will happen), and I am sure we all remember how out of hand that got.

60 people died when racist cops got off scott free back then and they could be just wanting to prepare for,the worste case cenario.......but I could also be wrong.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
49. This is a bit OTT.....
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:19 PM
Nov 2014

Unless the PTB have their violence against the protesters planned out already...

onecaliberal

(32,812 posts)
52. Guess the supposedly secret grand jury isn't
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:54 PM
Nov 2014

So secret. How in the name of all that is good does this guy walk?

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