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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 05:41 PM Nov 2014

Ben Carson Not Convinced on Global Warming

Source: BLOOMBERG

Ben Carson is a man of science. That doesn't necessarily mean that he believes in global warming.

"There's always going to be either cooling or warming going on," the potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate said in an interview this weekend in Des Moines, Iowa. "As far as I'm concerned, that's irrelevant. What is relevant is that we have an obligation and a responsibility to protect our environment."

Carson, a retired Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon, often talks about his medical background and science during his speeches. Pressed on the fact that the bulk of the scientific community believes the Earth is indeed warming, Carson pivoted. "You can ask it several different ways, but my answer is going to be the same," he said. "We may be warming. We may be cooling."

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-11-26/ben-carson-not-convinced-on-global-warming?cmpid=yhoo



I think this guy--
1- needs some brain surgery himself.
2- Would be an excellent republican presidential candidate. He is nuts.
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Ben Carson Not Convinced on Global Warming (Original Post) pangaia Nov 2014 OP
Planet Earth not convinced about Ben Carson shenmue Nov 2014 #1
"I may be sane, I may be insane, no way of telling, and it is irrelevant." And he is a candidate for Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #2
big surprise Skittles Nov 2014 #3
Makes perfect sense. I've never believed in people of science But I DO... BlueJazz Nov 2014 #4
I'm not convinced on . . . MrModerate Nov 2014 #5
I'm not convinced on . . . MrModerate Nov 2014 #6
You can't run as a republican Turbineguy Nov 2014 #7
Note to Dr. Carson Jack Rabbit Nov 2014 #8
How on earth did this person advance to where he did professionally? dballance Nov 2014 #9
I don't think there is necessarily a correlation. pangaia Nov 2014 #33
I'm not convinced Carson isn't a cyborg and thus unable to have sound judgment. valerief Nov 2014 #10
Ben Carson needs to forget how to breathe.... Raul Hernandez Nov 2014 #11
He's a Koch tool. His hypocrisy invalidates everything he says ErikJ Nov 2014 #12
Climate scientists don't pretend they know neurosurgery..... groundloop Nov 2014 #13
And most the 5% have some financial interest in Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #17
Too many bad drugs. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #14
Well, Mr. Puke, whatever it is... SoapBox Nov 2014 #15
To quote the endearing rascal, Bugs Bunny... Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #16
He's more than that rpannier Nov 2014 #19
And a bunch of words not suitable for Saturday morning TV! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #25
I'm not convinced he's really Ben Carson rpannier Nov 2014 #18
I've already seen a Ben Carson 2016 bumpersticker in Ft. Worth, Texas. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #20
...where they might elect him president... Ken Burch Nov 2014 #22
Ben Carson not convinced by reality. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #21
Reality is reportedly rethinking its position in order to accommodate Ben Carson FiveGoodMen Nov 2014 #38
And, exposes himself as the pandering toolbag he is. Next? Cha Nov 2014 #23
I thought we had discarded "global warming" madville Nov 2014 #24
Some people prefer "climate change". Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #26
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #27
Enjoy your stay, Troll. Archae Nov 2014 #28
One actually voted to leave it Major Nikon Nov 2014 #29
Ben Carson is an idiot Gothmog Nov 2014 #30
He's probably not sure about "global roundness" either. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #31
Poor dear... Stellar Nov 2014 #32
What does black have to do with it? pangaia Nov 2014 #34
Oh, I should remember that mentioning color for any reason.... Stellar Nov 2014 #39
It did not P me O. pangaia Nov 2014 #40
If you say so...enough said. Stellar Nov 2014 #41
he should play Dr.Strange in the upcoming film olddots Nov 2014 #35
Dr. Ben Carson VA_Jill Nov 2014 #36
Honestly who cares? booley Nov 2014 #37

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. "I may be sane, I may be insane, no way of telling, and it is irrelevant." And he is a candidate for
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 05:54 PM
Nov 2014

........what??

He is talking to the Fox crowd, these kind of fuckers need to be hit over the head with the reality of science at every opportunity.....look at the idiocy that ensues.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
4. Makes perfect sense. I've never believed in people of science But I DO...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 06:12 PM
Nov 2014

...believe what a group of semi-illiterate goat headers supposedly wrote 2000 years ago.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
5. I'm not convinced on . . .
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 06:50 PM
Nov 2014

. . . whether Carson is suffering from bovine spongiform encephalopathy.

I think the jury is still out and the science is uncertain.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
6. I'm not convinced on . . .
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 06:51 PM
Nov 2014

. . . whether Carson is suffering from bovine spongiform encephalopathy.

The jury is still out and the science is uncertain.

Turbineguy

(37,291 posts)
7. You can't run as a republican
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:07 PM
Nov 2014

unless you don't "believe" in global warming.

They are on the wrong side of Pascal's Wager.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
8. Note to Dr. Carson
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:44 PM
Nov 2014

Dear Dr. Carson:

Thank you for your interest in the position of President of the United States.

We are still looking a suitable match for the position, but we do not feel your views on climate science are compatible with the qualifications of the position that you seek.

Thanks again for you interest and good luck in the future.

/s/
Jack Rabbit
American Citizen

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
9. How on earth did this person advance to where he did professionally?
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 08:08 PM
Nov 2014

I don't understand how such a person could have hidden his views about creationism and other subjects such as global warming for his entire career.

He must really be one of the most talented surgeons in the OR to have gotten as far as he did while still holding such retrograde views.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. I don't think there is necessarily a correlation.
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 11:31 AM
Nov 2014

My dentist is about 60, member if the Rotary, and a died in the wool conservative. So is his son who also practices in the same office. With 3 dental hygienists, 3 assistants and 3 office help/He is NOT hurting for money, let's put it that way.

I will say, after removing a tooth he said I should have an implant. at... $3500 !!!. I told him I can't afford it. He said....I could put it on my credit card. Right, Dr. Ben. I can't afford something so just put it on my credit card... YUP ! He IS a very nice guy and I like him, but, as you can see. he just doesn't get it.

Problem is, he is very good.
Although I know a better dentist in Qingdao, China. :&gt )




valerief

(53,235 posts)
10. I'm not convinced Carson isn't a cyborg and thus unable to have sound judgment.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 08:10 PM
Nov 2014

But that's my opinion based on all the same scientific evidence Carson is using to discount climate change.

 

Raul Hernandez

(78 posts)
11. Ben Carson needs to forget how to breathe....
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 08:11 PM
Nov 2014

Someone knock him unconscious and order that Dr. Carson perform a lobotomy while unconscious...

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
12. He's a Koch tool. His hypocrisy invalidates everything he says
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 08:56 PM
Nov 2014

He and his family were given every govt aid available. Medicare, food stamps, welfare, housing, affirmative action yet he is demonizing those "liberal entitlements that keep the black man down'...and that gave him a chance to become a neurosurgeon.

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
13. Climate scientists don't pretend they know neurosurgery.....
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 09:03 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Fri Nov 28, 2014, 12:15 AM - Edit history (1)

Why in hell does a neurosurgeon think he has a fucking clue about climate science? Somewhere around 95% of all meteorologists and climate scientists agree on the basic facts of climate change, that's an amazing degree of agreement among experts in their field. The two loudest opponents of climate change who claim to be "experts" are an economist and neurosurgeon, hardly anyone I'd expect to have a clue on the subject.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
17. And most the 5% have some financial interest in
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 11:58 PM
Nov 2014

saying GW doesn't exist, or it does exist, but not caused by humans.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
15. Well, Mr. Puke, whatever it is...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 11:39 PM
Nov 2014

Stop making it fucking worse!

And there may be historical heating and cooling (over an eyelash of time, that we have lived through) BUT can humans live through it now, since we would seem to be making it even more extreme.

My number one item of how man is making things worse...and no Puker will ever convince me of anything different...all those thousands of aircraft, flying in the high altitudes, 24/7, spewing out super heat (and exhaust)...that will never make things any better.

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
18. I'm not convinced he's really Ben Carson
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 03:28 AM
Nov 2014

I've read and seen things that suggest he's really an imposter, possibly a clone

See... anyone can make-up stupid things and say/write them
Where's my check for a gazillion dollars

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
22. ...where they might elect him president...
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:21 AM
Nov 2014

...but they still wouldn't let him go out with their daughters...or use their bathroom.

madville

(7,404 posts)
24. I thought we had discarded "global warming"
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:32 AM
Nov 2014

In favor of "climate change"? That way if it cools,warms, more weather, less weather, whichever way, it can all be attributed to man made climate change.

I don't know or care who Carson is, but evidence shows we are in the midst of a warming trend so technically there is "global warming". Is his debate that it is not man made? In a century or two could our descendants see significant cooling? Sure I guess.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
26. Some people prefer "climate change".
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:11 AM
Nov 2014

But only because the RW nutsacks kept saying: "it's 20 degrees outside and we just got dumped on by 3 feet of snow... WHAT global warming!???"

I always use GW just to hear their moran-ness. 😄

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Major Nikon

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29. One actually voted to leave it
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:15 AM
Nov 2014

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Stellar

(5,644 posts)
39. Oh, I should remember that mentioning color for any reason....
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 03:57 PM
Nov 2014

can p/o some people. Sorry, I was just being facetious.

VA_Jill

(9,941 posts)
36. Dr. Ben Carson
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 12:34 PM
Nov 2014

is a pediatric neurosurgeon. That does not mean he knows ANYTHING whatsoever about ANY other branch of science!

booley

(3,855 posts)
37. Honestly who cares?
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:39 PM
Nov 2014

His opinion has nothing to do with science. This isn't even his field of knowledge. And simply put the science doesn't care if one particular person believes or not.

When the hell did being an ignoramus qualify one to speak on a subject?

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